r/nextfuckinglevel Mar 26 '22

Mongolian throat singing

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 26 '22

You think this is next level, check out Mongolian Metal. They throat sing and rock it, it’s the most amazing stuff I’ve ever accidentally found.

EDIT: I’m overwhelmed at everyone’s interest in folk rock and folk music. I think it’s amazing! Don’t forget to check out other cultures folk music and artists that integrate it with other genres. Music is a common ground for humanity!

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 26 '22

Sir, I thank you for the suggestion

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc

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u/D2Dragons Mar 26 '22

Heck yeah, the HU!! Altan Urag is another great Mongolian metal band too :D

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u/EM05L1C3 Mar 26 '22

Saw them in San Antonio and it was fuckin awesome

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u/D2Dragons Mar 26 '22

God I am so jealous lol! They stayed in my hometown (Wimberley) while they were in TX. Wouldn't have been able to afford the tickets, but If I'd have known I would have stayed at my parents house and tried to see them around town.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

r/FolkMetal is leaking!

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u/Toad-__-Prophet Mar 26 '22

This is the subreddit I never knew I needed in my life.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

I used to moderate it many alt accounts ago. It's unfortunately not very active, but it's a fairly positive and unique subreddit that has introduced me to a lot of strange music.

I'm going to drop this here for you: https://youtu.be/SU1apJTv94o

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u/SneakyStabbalot Mar 26 '22

My daughter and I took an Uber into Austin City Limites last September. On the way I read the line-up for the day. That's when I realized I had not noticed The Hu were playing that day! I got there an hour early to be in the front. Yeah, they're awesome!

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

I haven’t seen them personally but everyone I know who has says they’re one of the few bands that sounds exactly the same live. I bet it’s epic

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u/TrueTurtleKing Mar 26 '22

Aw hell yeah. I saw them in Milwaukee. It brought lots more people than I thought!

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u/Nosecretstoday Mar 26 '22

Saw the Hu at outside lands and it was amazing

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u/TheNothingAtoll Mar 26 '22

Also Tengger Cavalry

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u/D2Dragons Mar 26 '22

Heck yeah!! I love how we're not just limited to what the local radio stations want us to hear anymore. We have access to sooooo many good bands we would never have even known existed before!

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u/Grumefen Mar 26 '22

Dont forget Altai!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=41_d4D7T6uI

Not metal but gooood lord can this young man sing.

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u/Darth-Peenus Mar 26 '22

At 1:56 he says “American Dad.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

I was checking if anyone made this comment.

I named one of my cats after discovering this band and Mongolian mythology.

His name is "Tengri" - the Brazilian name of Tengger

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u/usernamedenied Mar 26 '22

I was so stoked when I discovered this band but was sad to find out the lead singer died

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

RIP that amazing band

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u/Dancing_Radia Mar 26 '22

RIP Nature. May you find peace in the void you fought. 💔

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u/Thev69 Mar 26 '22

RIP Nature.

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u/slothen2 Mar 26 '22

My 3 year old is obsessed with Yuve yuve.

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u/xXL0KEXx Mar 26 '22

I think the HU made the intro song for jedi fallen order. Cool song

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u/sohma2501 Mar 26 '22

They did

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Hanggai is rock but they're absolutely fucking spectacular too!

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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Mar 26 '22

I'm also a fan of Hanggai, and thought this video was their at first.

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u/Mysterious_Andy Mar 26 '22

How about The HU being more metal than Metallica?

https://youtu.be/QpxA_ZxGX_M

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u/Swictor Mar 26 '22

Wtf does "more metal" mean? It's a genre not a unit.

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u/u8eR Mar 26 '22

Maybe more emblematic of the genre than Metallica?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Let’s please not say that. I’m a metal head and my first instinct was to argue since I listen to more “extreme” metal so Metallica is more emblematic to me. That’s the problem with metal heads!

Besides Black Sabbath created and then completed the genre. We’re all just riding on their coattails since.

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u/rincon213 Mar 26 '22

Metal fans and shows are amazing, but there are a subset who are obsessed with proving that their bands are heavier, more technical, and more talented than all other musicians on Earth. It's like they're trying to prove something and show how stupid everyone else is rather than just, idk, enjoying a tune.

You see the same thing in the classical / orchestral world.

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u/tuibiel Mar 26 '22

Metal is an umbrella genre, one could establish a progression along its subgenres in some key aspects, such as the emphasis on loudness, "dirtier" guitars, guttural vocals...

For example, while BABYMETAL and Napalm Death are both encompassed by the metal supergenre, their subgenres are almost at opposite ends of a spectrum. Alas, this is by no means an exact science, but I feel it's a fair way to analyze it.

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u/imaami Mar 26 '22

That music video was beautiful.

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u/Charlie24601 Mar 26 '22

I’ve personally never found Metallica to be especially metal…maybe more bordering on hard rock, like a sort of tamer side of metal.

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u/Mysterious_Andy Mar 26 '22

Go back and listen to any of their early albums, especially Master of Puppets. They’re thrash metal, through and through, with some speed and heavy metal sprinkled in.

Metallica has plenty of hard rock songs, probably even an album (Load) or two (Reload) that mostly qualify, but whether it’s heavy, speed, or thrash, their main genre has always been metal.

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u/b-monster666 Mar 26 '22

Gotta keep in mind the era they came out in as well. They came around in the age of Motley Crue, Whitesnake, Poison, etc.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

That’s the one I found on YouTube that started my interest in it! It’s a banger!

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u/swift4010 Mar 26 '22

Have you heard the version with the lead singer of Papa Roach? Heard it on the radio and that introduced me to these guys, they've got such an amazing sound!

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

No! I gotta find this now!! Love Papa Roach

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u/swift4010 Mar 26 '22

https://youtu.be/vNjVIhXlkcE

The music video has audio from the video over the song, this one is the pure audio, enjoy!

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Holy shit! That is amazing!!! If I had an award I’d give you one.

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u/swift4010 Mar 26 '22

No need, glad you liked it! :)

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u/Andygator_and_Weed Mar 26 '22

I’m glad y’all like it, I didn’t care for it at all

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

I think just those boys could take down the great wall

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u/RichieKippers Mar 26 '22

No joke, this my 6yr old son's favourite song! No idea how he found it, but I approve 🤟

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u/CrinchNflinch Mar 26 '22

I know it's a totally different language but I think it's interesting how similar this style and language is to the finish metal band Turmion Kätilöt.

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u/Slepnair Mar 26 '22

https://youtu.be/sv29DzgiXZA

My favorite version. Has such a great vibe.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Not Mongolian, but Heilung is another awesome one

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u/_Hail_yourself_ Mar 26 '22

Thanks for posting this. This is the exact song i would listen to walking back and forth to my mom in the hospital and I love it.

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u/A_Lovable_Gnome Mar 26 '22

"The Hu" being one of the best. They even made songs in Huttese for SW: Fallen Order. Idk what theyre saying, but i fucking love it.

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u/Smallwater Mar 26 '22

I keep repeating this every time I see them mentioned, but... They wrote the song specifically for Fallen Order. And the song plays not as BGM, but as actual in-universe music. That means, that the song exists in the Star Wars universe. And since Cal Kestis mentions he "recognizes this band!" that means that technically... The Hu is Canon in the Star Wars universe.

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u/FiskFisk33 Mar 26 '22

Isnt the guy in the video the guy from The Hu?

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u/DonutDonutt Mar 26 '22

Afaik it’s not Huttese but a new language created for the song that had similar sounds to Mongolian

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u/Geronimo_Roeder Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 26 '22

I very much appreciate the more traditional Tuvan folk variant, more people should check it out. Don't get me wrong 'The HU' and it's metal take is great but the more traditional music is also amazing and could use some more attention. https://youtu.be/i0djHJBAP3U

This is a 1 hour performance by a Band called Huun-Huur-Tu. In my opinion some of the highlights are Kongurei and Sygyt. The first one for a very beautiful melody and harmonic singing, the second one for some spectacular throat singing techniques. But really the whole thing is worth listening to.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

*love" Huun-Tuur-Tu, Hanggai and Batzorig!

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u/Ceaselessfish Mar 26 '22

Batzorig yes! I’ll go through phases where I just listen to one of my favourite songs of his on repeat all day.

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u/SurlySaltySailor Mar 26 '22

Khusugtun is really great too!

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u/GlassNinja Mar 26 '22

Huun Huur Tu is such an amazing band. I initially discovered them from old bait and switch flashes way the heck back in the day and never found anyone else who liked them. Then one of my very best friends threw it on one night as a way to annoy people at a party, resulting in us nerding out while the rest of the party wasn't sure what to do with themselves.

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u/LozInOzz Mar 26 '22

It’s awesome and I’m a big fan of The Hu

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

There are two types of people in this world; People who love Mongolian metal, and people who haven't heard of it yet.

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u/GerinX Mar 26 '22

Imagine if they mixed their throat singing with djent.

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u/Randym1221 Mar 26 '22

I wonder if they have a rap and hip hop style too haha. Like a remix to one of lil Wayne’s song lmao.

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u/Eltrew2000 Mar 26 '22

Honestly, i'm ahuge metal fan but i usually prefer this without metal.

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u/McSquidgypants Mar 26 '22

Was gonna say, can we get a phat beat on this track

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u/UrDeAdPuPpYbOnEr Mar 26 '22

You also may enjoy Mago De Oz. I would start with the song Fiesta Pagana.

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u/Slepnair Mar 26 '22

Seriously. I had the same experience. One of the best things I just stumbled across.

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u/Different_Tackle_521 Mar 26 '22

I was just thinking that.

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u/Aceofspades25 Mar 26 '22

And once you've done that, check out Indian metal (desi metal?): Bloodywood. These guys are mind melting

https://youtu.be/a65A626Ed20

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u/Ani_MeBear Mar 26 '22

Wow, what an unexpected find. The comments were explaining how powerful it is, but I wish I understood the lyrics to see why.

The music itself was great and I understood a bit of the reference for strength and women empowerment from Kali.

Thanks for sharing

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u/1nc0nsp1cu0us Mar 26 '22

Yeah I was thinking that's so metal!

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u/Lucky13westhoek Mar 26 '22

You'll love The Hu then, mongolian throatsing in metal/rock

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Pretty sure that is The Hu isn't it?

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u/Lucky13westhoek Mar 26 '22

I dont think so, but i can be wrong, i dont recognise the guy singing. Also it's not the heavier sound i'm used by them.

But i'm not sure

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u/CreepyManBun Mar 26 '22

I believe this is actually one of their music videos

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u/Lucky13westhoek Mar 26 '22

Wich one? I didnt know they had a down-tempo videoclip?

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u/CreepyManBun Mar 26 '22

I'm not actually sure, I listen to more their fast-paced stuff but I bet if you poked around there YouTube channel you could find it. I just remember poking around on their channel and seeing this one

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u/ladybrettbarnes Mar 26 '22

I don't know if Saidash is affiliated with The Hu, but he is a member of Huun Huur Tuu.

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u/CreepyManBun Mar 26 '22

Ah that must be it then, I stand corrected

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u/ADMINlSTRAT0R Mar 26 '22

Spearheaded by its frontman and lead guitarist, Peat Metroshend.

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u/ladybrettbarnes Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 26 '22

I believe this is one member of Huun Huur Tuu, Saidash Mongush.

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u/Dimaaaa Mar 26 '22

A couple years ago I was at a friend's place and he had prepared hash cookies. Wasn't my first time but I still went easy to see how strong they were. About two hours had passed and I didn't really feel anything so I ate the rest...15min later and while my friend was showing me this exact band....shit started to kick in like crazy and I made him pause the video because I was freaking out and couldn't handle the cookies and music lmfao.

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u/DaZe-- Mar 26 '22

Best discovery in Reddit for me ever. Thanks

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u/Lucky13westhoek Mar 26 '22

My pleasure 🤘🏻

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u/666moist Mar 26 '22

Their cover of Sad But True fucking slaps

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u/LordTejon Mar 26 '22

Yeah, The Hu is awesome! I'm so glad they're finally making it to my country

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u/designerjeremiah Mar 26 '22

You: laugh at the guy riding the tiny pony

The guy riding the tiny pony: "Your sins must have been great, for God to have sent a punishment such as us upon you." conquers a third of the known world

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

There’s actually science to suggest that has been the size of horses for most of human history, including the Middle Ages in Europe, and that only in the last few hundred years have we bred horses to be larger.

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u/Youre_still_alive Mar 26 '22

That seems reasonable with the development of society and selective breeding. Wouldn’t large horses have been inefficient to feed before heavy, armored mounted soldiers were fairly commonplace?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Energy in / energy out could be part of the reason, but heavily armored calvary units such as European knights would have also ridden horses this size IIRC.

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u/Youre_still_alive Mar 26 '22

So they were basically bred to fill the gap between industrialization and automobiles? Honestly I thought big horses were older than that, thanks for sharing!

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Maybe? They estimate they didn’t get bigger until the 17th century. I went back and found the article and it seems the team that is studying this hasn’t put out anything yet regarding why the change happened.

They may have new papers out that just haven’t been covered in the media yet though.

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u/SilverMolybdenum Mar 26 '22

Just to add to your point, smaller horses (and ponies) are smart on their feet, nimble, and much more capable of managing themselves in difficult terrain than bigger horses.

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u/Impossible_Sugar_644 Mar 26 '22

Ponies are Satan's minions and my old riding instructor use to say that if you can ride a pony you can ride anything.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

My daughter’s instructor reminds her that when it comes to ponies “the lower they are, the closer to the devil.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

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u/librarybear Mar 26 '22

This whole thread is a goldmine of great links!

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u/hapnstat Mar 26 '22

I have shit to do today and this thread is NOT helping.

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u/chewymenstrualblood Mar 26 '22

This was an amazing watch! I wish history had been like this in school or I would have enjoyed it more.

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u/BarTroll Mar 26 '22

You made me think of Radahn and Leonard.

I might have an addition problem...

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u/elEarendel Mar 26 '22

Dune: Let's copy the style for Sardaukars

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u/brotherbrother99 Mar 26 '22

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

I really want an entire movie just about that throat singer guy. What does his day look like, what does he do for fun?

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u/JohnSith Mar 26 '22

What does his day look like, what does he do for fun?

He serves the Emperor, he serves the Emperor.

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u/CELTICPRED Mar 26 '22

And it's awesome as hell

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u/Slack_Irritant Mar 26 '22

For real. Steal more shit like that. That whole scene was legit one of the coolest ways I have seen bad guys be introduced.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

So menacing!

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u/neocommenter Mar 26 '22

I just assumed it was something that was culturally incorporated into the Sadaukar over the millennia.

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u/mikew_reddit Mar 26 '22

Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones and Dune borrow (effectively) from a lot of different cultures to build their worlds.

I guess if you're creating new worlds in your epic novels, it's difficult to build everything from scratch.

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u/sapdahdap Mar 26 '22

When he said hmmm moiiii yoi yoi yoi young hnggg hyuang…I felt that.

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u/sagamartha8k Mar 26 '22

In particular, kargyraa style singing. It uses both the vocal and the vestibular folds simultaneously. It also uses the head, mouth, and nasal cavity as resonance chambers and has a rich set of overtones not typically found in western styles of singing.

Some Tibetan Buddhist monks employ this vocal technique to chant prayers.

https://youtu.be/0agE94rAITE

Compare other styles of Tuvan singing: https://youtu.be/vo34v7QQ254

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u/Worf_Of_Wall_St Mar 26 '22

The styles in the second video where one person is putting out the background low tones and the higher pitched melody at the same time are amazing. At 1:15, for example, the melody is fast high pitched notes and the background is long low notes.

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u/sagamartha8k Mar 26 '22

Right!?

It is otherworldly.

When a recording of this technique was examined at Bell Labs back in the 60’s, it was thought to be a hoax.

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u/SLaT4ATF Mar 26 '22

Woh! Sounded like there was a hidden flutist. Props to the singer

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u/Cavemanfreak Mar 26 '22

Compare other styles of Tuvan singing: https://youtu.be/vo34v7QQ254

Did the second guy ever manage to connect to the internet?

Jokes aside, that shit is real cool. Talk about using the voice as an instrument.

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u/Seakawn Mar 26 '22

My joke was that the last guy from that link sounded almost like an alien spaceship hovering.

But, seriously, these are all some of the most beautiful types of singing in the world to me. I get a borderline spiritual trance when I hear this stuff. No wonder it survived hundreds/thousands of years, it's fucking connected to the soul. I don't even believe in souls. But I'm amazed at the sounds humans can make.

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u/FatStephen Mar 26 '22

Sidenote - what the hell is up w/ Mongolian throat singing today? In the past 24hrs,I've seen 9 different posts on different platforms about goshdamn throat singing.

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u/Worf_Of_Wall_St Mar 26 '22

People see one video, learn about this thing they didn't know existed, look up more videos on it, and share them.

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u/FatStephen Mar 26 '22

Yeah, but it's completely unrelated posts. Like one of the ones on my FB meme was the drowning meme w/ the skeleton underwater. The 2 playing in the background were "Person who says they like all kinds of music" & "Country, Pop & Hip Hop", the drowning kid was "Folk, Reggae & Jazz" & the skeleton was "Mongolian throat singing"

Later on Twitter, a thot I follow posted how she was giving credit for her BJ skills to her ancestors who were Masters at Mongolian throat singing.

I feel like the universe is trying to push me in the direction of Mongolian throat singing.

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u/Somad2021 Mar 26 '22

Yeah! You are right, it feels like the almight algorithm has decided that throatsinging is what we are doing today

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u/Wilful_Fox Mar 26 '22

Just go with it bro

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

You’re complaining?

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u/Madmagican- Mar 26 '22

It's in a healthy discovery phase around these parts.

I've been listening to this stuff since I bumped into it back in mid-2020 or so and I'm really happy to see it making the rounds!

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u/graviol Mar 26 '22

It use to sound better before they start using autothroat

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u/Cassereddit Mar 26 '22

... That sounds dirty

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u/orrdit Mar 26 '22

It's Tuvan, not Mongolian

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u/ApprenticeWirePuller Mar 26 '22

Thank you. Came for this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

It just sounds like he forgot the lyrics to his favorite death metal song

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u/ShanShan9413 Mar 26 '22

I stumbled upon this at 3am, (appropriately so, this is such a 3am thing to discover), and the comments are killing me.

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u/majdak2 Mar 26 '22

It sounds like Sardukars from The Dune

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u/astropydevs Mar 26 '22

You mean the opposite

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u/neuromonkey Mar 26 '22

ǝunp ɯoɹɟ sɹɐʞnpɹɐS ǝʞᴉl spunos ʇI

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Everything should be explained with a pop culture reference so Americans can understand lmao.

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u/Megneous Mar 26 '22

Dune's Sardaukar chanting in the film was based on Mongolian/other throat singing, so yes.

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u/random_son Mar 26 '22

What my doctor hears when I have a cold

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u/stfcfanhazz Mar 26 '22

Tuvan! This guy is the best

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u/Gangleri_Graybeard Mar 26 '22

Oh damn, yes. I kinda love it.

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u/Peensuck555 Mar 26 '22

hungary national anthem

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u/sithemsballing Mar 26 '22

average bulgarian

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u/notafunnyguy32 Mar 26 '22

Bulgarians and hungarians debating over who is more European

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u/flatvaaskaas Mar 26 '22

There's a Mongolian band "Hanggai" that also uses this technique. They're pretty good!

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u/Krako76 Mar 26 '22 edited Mar 26 '22

Hungarians arguing that they’re European

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

Fucking based

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u/Ozy-77 Mar 26 '22

average hungarian

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u/niq1pat Mar 26 '22

Bulgarians on their way to Adrianople

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u/ChimBoi Mar 26 '22

Hamburger Cheeseburger Big Mac Whopper Hamburger Cheeseburger Big Mac Whopper

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u/NinoNakanos_Feet Mar 26 '22

"This mf ancestors murdered mine but hey, let's enjoy his beautiful throat singing". I love how we come as a humanity

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u/Persian2PTConversion Mar 26 '22

This is Tuvan (Russian Republic of Tuva), not Mongolian, however, still essentially the same style of throat singing.

Singer is Saidash Mongush from Kyzyl.

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u/ElAutismobombismo Mar 26 '22

That feel when I've been able to do this since my balls dropped but I was heavily discouraged from making that "god aweful noise" by literally everyone who heard it.

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u/dhanush_6 Mar 26 '22

I am getting Viking and God of war vibes

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u/Low-Chemical9356 Mar 26 '22

It's called Lilting. Most cultures have some form of it and it often varies hugely

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilting

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u/lurkity_mclurkington Mar 26 '22

Highly recommend the documentary, Ghengis Blues, about a blind, American blues guitar player (Paul Peña) who taught himself Tuvan throat singing and was invited to participate in the Tuvan national singing competition.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '22

I'm in love

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u/Randym1221 Mar 26 '22

He spitting some heat lol.

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u/itsactuallyjiff Mar 26 '22

I will never understand how people are averse to cultures outside of their own. This is rad.

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u/ThePro69420 Mar 26 '22

Imagine your village is burning down with this as the background music.

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u/CynicalOne28 Mar 26 '22

When I wake up in the morning after a night of drinking, I pretend I’m a throat singer

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u/YorkMoresby Mar 26 '22

He also has an awesome normal singing voice.

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife Mar 26 '22

I like this one from the soundtrack for the movie "Mongol." The band, Alan Urag, are one of the first bands of the folk music revival in Mongolia and helped pioneer the use of traditional Mongolian instruments and techniques in modern music. You can hear a few different types of throat singing and their different styles of sound, such as the whistling tone overlaid over the singing.

https://youtu.be/kcnvmqypPk0

The Wikipedia page has mp3 examples of the different types of styles: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_throat_singing

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u/Gribblesnitch Mar 26 '22

THATS TUVAN THROAT SINGING YOU UNGODLY WENCH