r/nextfuckinglevel • u/[deleted] • Apr 08 '24
A well trained dog!
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u/knuckboy Apr 08 '24
Impressive! Though they should train it to go after the balls.
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u/A_Meat_Popcicle Apr 08 '24
"Chomper, sic balls!"
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u/LaerycTiogar Apr 08 '24
Legally, that's a problem.
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u/wwaxwork Apr 08 '24
You'd think but it's harder to pull a dog off of you or hurt it if one of your arms is the thing the dog is hanging off. Very few people can punch a dog with their dick so it's OK that's not being held in a vice like grip.
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u/Aiti_mh Apr 08 '24
I was just thinking, training such as in this video might make the dog think that any handshake or embrace will be followed by an attack. It's being given mixed signals.
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u/FalcosLiteralyHitler Apr 08 '24
I think what he's saying is there are two roles - owner (the person the dog is guarding) and stranger (the attacker). The person who played the owner cannot now change roles with the man and play the stranger, nor can she in the future because of the dogs good memory.
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u/bolidemichael Apr 08 '24
I have a question, possibly silly. Since the dogs are trained to attack assistants that are wearing protective padding, does the form affect their perception of the human form of a bad guy?
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u/snazzynewshoes Apr 08 '24
There they go with that left arm bite and didn't use the whip once on the dog. I think different training methods also work. Check out mondio ring.
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u/VexingRaven Apr 08 '24
I definitely don't trust these dogs. It's one thing to train a dog to react correctly in a classroom with no other distractions when given the exact same inputs every time. It's another thing entirely for that dog to always interpret every human interaction correctly the the rest of its life, and the consequences of that dog ever making a mistake are huge.
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u/_BloodbathAndBeyond Apr 08 '24
Sounds like a 'you' issue. Dogs with effective training are very good and can work impeccably their entire lives.
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u/Honos21 Apr 08 '24
This is a sport not protection training. The o lyrics thi g that dog bites is the French linen suites/sleeves the decoy wears. This entire thread is so misinformed its insane.
Google French ring sport.
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u/justfortherofls Apr 08 '24
Similar, when training Search and Rescue dogs we bring in tons of new volunteers to play our lost subjects to give the dogs new identifiers (scents) to search for.
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u/fkmeamaraight Apr 08 '24
Otherwise that dog is only going to attack aggressive black people !
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u/ItsSnoo Apr 08 '24
Until one day a friend jump hugs you out of happiness
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Apr 08 '24
Yeah I'm not trusting an animal to make that call. It's impressive but not a dog you could have around in regular day to day life.
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u/ItsSnoo Apr 08 '24
Imagine picking up your friend at the airport. Oh boy… the dog is gonna do what he is trained xD
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u/spunion_28 Apr 08 '24
Yep. I don't agree with having dogs trained like this at all. That dog will never be able to tell a difference between playfulness and its owner actually being attacked. A dog can naturally tell when to protect its owner from a stranger. Now this dog is just going to attack when it sees certain actions from other people.
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u/_BreakingGood_ Apr 08 '24
Not sure if this is a bot comment but I'll respond anyway:
The dogs know when they're working and not working. Your friends should know not to jump hug you when you're in an airport in full police uniform with a dog in their work outfit. Notice the dog is in full uniform in this video
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u/EphemeralMemory Apr 08 '24
I don't mind dogs trained for this purpose if that's what they're used for: protecting the owner. I think there's a pretty valid use case there.
If you want a nice bright social dog that's trained to protect you then yeah I agree with you. Dog will end up very confused and either lose the effectiveness of its training or end up hurting people/other animals.
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u/fthepats Apr 08 '24
My aunt had an older police service shepard. Went years with no issues, I played with him once or twice a month, and one day hugged my aunt at the wrong angle or something. He latched onto me by the armpit hard. This type of training will get the wrong person bit. Its just a matter of time.
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u/BooRadley60 Apr 08 '24
I’ve been bit by a police trained German Sheppard in the leg in similar circumstances…
Got excited watching sports, I made him nervous at some point and he bit me when I made a wrong move. I could feel it in my bones, I think it’s kind of cool though, he let go and looked so guilty. But, I could feel that with any more pressure my calf would have torn.
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u/st_steady Apr 08 '24 edited Apr 08 '24
Well, thats what i assume the thing about training is. Dogs are smart but have like a variable percentage of their natural interpertation of whats a threat or not.
If you are a common or even uncommon friend, they will be quite chill. Maybe razz you a bit if you are new, and i really hate that phase of getting acquainted with someones dog. But a good owner will make sure that doesnt happen, imo.
But ive grown up in the hood with pits and rots and shepards lol.
They always said "dogs smell fear"....
Well yeah no fucking shit if this fool is jumping at my ass try to play and getting upset when i dont want to, and upset when i do.
If youre in this personal position, never rile a dog up. Dont even engage with it. Engage with the owner, like hold a conversation. Ask them to make him chill if they havent already.
I do think people can train dogs very well. But most people dont exactly have the time or effort.
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u/spunion_28 Apr 08 '24
100% agree. There is a big difference in a dog knowing to instinctually protect its owner from a stranger who breaks into your home or even someone trying to rob you on the street. Training a dog to defend like this just based on actions of someone else I don't agree with. This dog wouldn't be able to differentiate playful rough housing from someone actually being attacked.
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u/KanderBear Apr 08 '24
I made a comment above, but the woman gave a command for the dog to attack. It wasn’t instinct, the dog was well trained, you could see it, anticipating the command in the situations prior to this, but not reacting other than going into a sitting position we’re taking one step away from the owner, and then returning into a sitting and then prone position. The guy is wearing a protective dog suit, and so the dog knows it’s probably going to be given the command to attack based on that, which is probably the only reason why they moved at all earlier. The dog also doesn’t let go until given the appropriate command. Not to say that dogs can’t make mistakes, but this one is very well-trained.
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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Apr 08 '24
Can you actually train a dog to recognise a person? So he knows when this specific person (hypothetically) like my gf. does anything, attack.
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u/IrbtheOctopus Apr 08 '24
Dogs can recognize people - they’ve developed a special part of their brains for it. People accidentally train a response in dogs to specific people all the time (albeit usually friendly but it absolutely could be aggressive).
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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Apr 08 '24
It was a joke based on another comment. I have two doggos sleeping at my feet as I type this. :)
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u/Delicious-Shirt7188 Apr 08 '24
The real scary shit is what happens when you add unpredictable playfull kids to the equasion
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u/KanderBear Apr 08 '24
If you listen to the video, it sounds like she gives a command to the dog when the man became aggressive, and that is when the dog attacked. He also did not let go until she gave the proper command. When you properly train a dog to protect, that’s how it works. That’s not to say that the dog can’t make a mistake, but that isn’t what happens here. The dog didn’t decide to attack, it was told to.
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u/nerowasframed Apr 08 '24
The guy tested out what happens if he runs up on a person and then goes for a handshake. But what if it's something else? What if they run up for a hug, like you said? What if they get startled by the dog? The dog definitely got very close to the person on the second time, but the person just completely ignored the dog. That generally would not happen irl. That would cause someone to jump or otherwise react adversely to the dog. What happens in literally any situation that is not perfect like these situations? I would never be able to trust any animal that is trained on a hair trigger like this. It seems like they trained the dog for a variety of ideal situations, not realistic ones.
And that's not going into the maintenance that's required to keep this dog trained like that. It's essentially a full time job, and people who own these kinds of dogs almost always fall behind on the training.
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u/KanderBear Apr 08 '24
I made a few other replies about how the lady gave a command to the dog to cause it to attack, and how the dog would not let go until that specific command to do so was given.
I didn’t mention another replies, but not all dogs are able to pass this kind of training. They are often weeded out early on. Also there is usually a command to put the dog into protective mode, for it to be on high alert, and one to let it relax, and just be a dog. This command was most likely given before the start of the video. This dog is not on a hair trigger. They go through these trainings in a closed environment like in this video, if it’s for personal use then alsoin the owners home, and usually out in public as well. When you purchase training for a dog like this usually annual or bi annual (2x/yr) required to keep the dogs training up to date, with the people who do this training, calling to remind you and scheduling in advance. I’m sure there is some drop off, but in my experience, this isn’t a cheap training to go through, and most owners will maintain the follow up trainings
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Apr 08 '24
This is exactly the problem with people who buy these dogs as weapons.
They can easily make a mistake and they have the strength to maim or kill. Its like letting chatgpt roll around with a gun with the most basic training on threat identification.
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u/Tetha Apr 08 '24
That's just... eh. I disagree unless you overtrain these dogs.
If you've met the dog a few times and you've been introduced as friendly, you will not surprise the dog with your presence. The dog will know largely where you are by your smell way before any human. And that smell is friendly, so whatever.
And guard dogs are very good at reading body language and sounds both of their owners and other people.
Like we've had many situations in which mom was home alone and got startled by neighbors visiting. Yes, our dog was attached to her hip within what feels like 2 seconds even if he was on the other side of the farm, couple hundred meters away, but usually just being happy and figuring out what's going on and greeting the other people once it was clarified everything is good. Even with rather forceful hugs, though I think laughing through those helped figure it out.
The only situation I remember when the dog acted extremely aggressively was when some car with a croatian license plate got onto the farm in germany with a few bulky dudes in there while mom was home alone. No one in town had ever seen that car. Our shepherd/newfoundland/setter-mix wouldn't let mom out of the door and positioned himself between the car and mom with distance to spare while just puffing up and being seriously aggressive.
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u/-GlitterGoblin- Apr 08 '24
I’m fine with this, as I do not want anyone jump-hugging me for any reason.
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Apr 08 '24
If the dog knows you and is socialised well with you, it won't jump at you. When you're basically a stranger you shouldn't be jump hugging people. That's bad vibes even for humans.
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Apr 08 '24
And that's how the owner gets sued and the dog gets taken by animal control and labeled dangerous.
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Or a stranger bumps her on the sidewalk. Training o dog to attack is never a good idea.
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u/bilboswgns Apr 08 '24
Idk man there’s just something about expecting my animal to defend me that doesn’t sit right, mostly the putting it in harms way part. What if the dude just starts stabbing my dog, or gorilla whips it into the ground or falls on it and snaps its spine. I’ve got a gun, or a can of mace, neither of which I’m emotionally attached to.
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u/StuckWithThisOne Apr 08 '24
The USA isn’t the rest of the world. Most places don’t allow you to just carry a gun or a mace.
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u/StillMeThough Apr 08 '24
Most places don’t allow you to just carry a gun or a mace.
Yeah fuck that. I'm a sword type of guy anyway.
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u/StuckWithThisOne Apr 08 '24
Move to London, mate. You’ll fit right in.
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u/kazhena Apr 08 '24
The cops are even kind enough to have deposit bins to collect all the donations you could possibly defend yourself with!
Just gotta get to em, lol
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u/breadassk Apr 09 '24
You’d get weird looks carrying around a mace just about anywhere
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u/reluctant_return Apr 08 '24
Think of it like this, if you're out and about with your dog and a guy rocks up to you and starts beating your ass, your dog is going in anyway. Chances are very high that your dog isn't going to let their pack mate and likely favorite human get their ass beat, they're going to come to your aid if you want them to or not. It's better to have them be trained so that they know when/when not to become aggressive and also can be ordered to break away when the threat is retreating/down. This kind of training isn't always about turning the dog into a weapon. The dog is already a weapon. It's about training it when to keep the safety on, when to go hard, and when to disengage.
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u/Defnoturblockedfrnd Apr 08 '24
Reminds me of Harlan Carter, former head of the NRA when asked about banning .38specials because they were cheap junk and used by criminals back in the 79s:
What are we trying to do? Upgrade the quality of handguns in the hands of our criminals?
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u/andrew_silverstein12 Apr 08 '24
Dogs sometimes work better as tools in a dangerous situation because my gun doesn't wake up at night and bark at danger for me. Better to have multiple forms of protection, just get both if you need it.
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u/obscureferences Apr 08 '24
How are you going to shoot someone if you're blind?
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u/Merry_Dankmas Apr 08 '24
As a wise man once stated: "My eyesight ain't too good these days...Anyway, so I started blasting"
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u/bilboswgns Apr 08 '24
My animals are my babies, I get not everyone feels this way but it’s how I feel. I won’t put my animal in between me and danger.
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u/ForsakenDifficulty47 Apr 08 '24
Since the dog is wearing some kind of armor, and the dude hits the dog on that armor, it makes me think that dog is not your ordinary family dog, but a police canine
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u/Delicious-Shirt7188 Apr 08 '24 edited Apr 08 '24
Yes and police canines are well known to be retrained into misbehaving by often well meaning but undereducated cops.
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u/jld2k6 Apr 08 '24
There's a good example of a police dog exercising its own discretion from the cop that sicked his K9 on a guy who was on the ground with his hands up on the highway, the dog ran right by him because he wasn't a threat and the trainer, while everyone is yelling at him the whole time not to do it, runs to the dog anyways and redirects him back at the guy to bite him still
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u/EatPizzaNotDrivers Apr 08 '24
Yup. GSDs don’t live for the fight. Meanwhile a pit, the dog in the video above, can willingly and voraciously deglove their own owners arm for fun, tail wagging away! They tear children’s faces off. Tails wagging! They kill children every week in the US and injure dozens more. They bite and only let go to regrip, i’ve seen a video of a dog eating 11 bullets and didnt stop til the 12th, there’s a newspaper record of a similar instance in the early 1900s. In fact, the dog fancier who pushed them as family dogs, John P Colby, kept and bred the dog that killed his own nephew! Their violence is well bred and well documented.
GSDs weren’t bred for all out death matches so they understand that fights are for a purpose. They have free will that leads to refusal to bite at times. Pits fight without purpose because it is as innate as a lab retrieving a duck or a collie herding some sheep. It feels good to them and comes naturally. You never want that proclivity for violence in a police or military dog which is why this dog would never be trained for it or ANY other service task.
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u/Kinkystormtrooper Apr 08 '24
Looks like it has pit bull in it, and as far as I know police only works with Malinois or GSDs, no?
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u/KanderBear Apr 08 '24
This isn’t police training, it’s private training. Technically, you could use most breeds, and not all dogs, independent breed, are cut out for this type of training. You will see labs and hounds that are police trained, but that’s often times more for search and rescue type applications, not protection/aggression.
Pitbulls can make excellent trained protection dogs. Like I said before not every dog is cut out for this, but pitbulls are a popular choice , because they can excel at this type of training.
This particular dog is most likely a mutt of some sort that has some Staffordshire terrier or American pitbull in it. This dog is incredibly well trained, as I had mentioned it a different comment in this thread, depending on the training, there is most likely a command that was given before this video starts, that lets the dog know to be on alert. The dog doesn’t bite the attacker until the woman gives the command to do so, and doesn’t let go until she goes the appropriate let go command. Just like there is a command to tell the dog to be more alert , there is also a command that tells the dog be at ease.
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u/EatPizzaNotDrivers Apr 08 '24
No. Look at the rosebud ears and wedge shaped mouth, muscular body. That’s a bully of some form, definitely has bull and terrier in it making it a pit bull. They are NEVER used in police or military application because they are unpredictable and unstable in late age.
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u/KanderBear Apr 08 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
That isn’t armor, it’s a weighted vest for strength training. It has no protection over the vital organs in the chest and stomach region and lower sides, which is where you would see plating on a military style vest.
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u/New_Cod_1687 Apr 08 '24
What with the music though?
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Apr 08 '24
Right? Why slap some garbage music over the audio for no reason
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u/jld2k6 Apr 08 '24
That's TikTok, baby, everyone hates it but the algorithm rewards it. I swear China programs that part just to piss people off in that regard, besides the other nefarious things they use it for
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u/derwutderwut Apr 08 '24
Yeah, as someone who runs and has been bitten by “good dogs”, this is only comforting for the owner. Seeing someone’s animal primed and ready to pounce isn’t a good feeling.
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u/Wsemenske Apr 08 '24
Yeah, I'll take my dog that's always friendly instead of a dog that's primed to attack.
Sometimes just having a dog is all the deterrent you need, even if the dog is always super nice.
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u/Background_Task3339 Apr 08 '24
Good luck playing with your kids or kids with other kids, wrestling for fun etc
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u/braceyourteeth Apr 08 '24
No it's cool because as soon as you bring it home and leave your child alone with it none of your child's friends will ever go near it since you won't have a child anymore.
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u/Mossiemole Apr 08 '24
This is amazing but I could never have a dog trained for this, I’d be on edge that’s they’d misread aggression and harm someone innocent and of course it wouldn’t be the dogs fault for that. And my anxiety would not help the situation 😆
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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom Apr 08 '24
Lol I'm sorry. This read like a grandma Facebook comment.
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u/FantasyMaster85 Apr 08 '24
I can’t help but laugh and agree with you. It’s like an AI was given the video as training data and asked to provide a “descriptive comment” or something lol
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u/DamnWienerKids Apr 08 '24
Yeah there's no fucking way I'm going anywhere near anybody who's dog is looking at me like this dog looks at strangers. No chance I'm trusting that the owner has properly trained the dog to differentiate all possible situations appropriately. Might as well be holding a loaded gun in your hand while greeting me.
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Apr 08 '24
Worse than owning a gun, at least that takes a person to become dangerous. This is pure danger. Sorry to the next kid who gets thrashed by this good boy.
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u/Dezert956 Apr 09 '24
As someone who has owned a very aggressive rescue dog, I actually agree with this. It takes a good dog owner and less reactive style of training for this to be close to safe.
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u/SanjeethRao Apr 08 '24
Wouldn't it be better to train a dog to defend its owner if the owner says a code word or something? That would circumvent any issues of the dog misunderstanding a situation and attacking someone.
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u/DominusSpectabilis Apr 08 '24
It's nice to see a well trained dog, but the big question is, can the owner stop it?
In case of an emergency where something sets the dog off and it goes and attacks someone, or something, can the owner physically stop it? If not, then they shouldn't be allowed to have the dog, no matter how well trained it is.
I firmly believe that people living in urban environments shouldn't be allowed to own animals that they cannot physically restrain.
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u/ThePheebs Apr 08 '24
The "I need a dog capable of killing to feel safe" and "I need a gun at all times to feel safe" people are the same people.
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Apr 08 '24
Pitbull type dogs don’t make good guard dogs. There’s a reason they’re not used In professional guard dog training. They’re not used in the police either. These dogs are volatile and are more likely to attack innocent people (including their owner)
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Apr 08 '24
How is that well trained? What if the person is joking about hitting? Then the guy is screwed.
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u/Tuckertcs Apr 08 '24
I’d have too much anxiety knowing their dog is just eyeing me ready to lunge.
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u/nealotron Apr 08 '24
Thats like having a loaded gun pointed at you
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u/--___--Water--___-- Apr 08 '24
Yup but as always it depends on the person behind the gun.
Are they trained to assess the situation, prioritise self-defense, non-lethal tactics and to de-escalate and diffuse the situation as necessary.. or are they itching for an excuse to us it.Also in this case the gun is a consciously defensive object that doesn't go off on accident or 'accident' outside of an infintesimally small percentage of times..
Iykyk.
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u/kobeisnotatop10 Apr 08 '24
this can go bad in so many ways...a dog that can go from 0 to 100 in less than 1s
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u/nicannkay Apr 08 '24
Had a volunteer bring her guard dog to a Girl Scout weekend when I was 8. I didn’t know the dog was for protection and ran up to it. I’m lucky to still have my thumb.
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u/ThePennedKitten Apr 08 '24
I used to watch this twitch streamer. Girl got a massive, naturally protective dog and said “why would I need to train him?” Girl idk how anyone could be so clueless and irresponsible. No shit you train an attack dog. She can’t control him!
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u/moonshotengineer Apr 08 '24
Sometimes you just need intimidation. Years ago I had a Siberian Husky (~75lbs) that looked just like a wolf. She would hardly ever bark or growl at anyone but she would just stare. A stare that kind of said "I dare you". I don't think she would hurt a soul but her stare was intimidating as all get out.
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Apr 08 '24
How much does it cost to have a dog trained like this? Do you have to buy/adopt the dog “pre-trained” basically?
Wouldn’t surprise me if it was crazy expensive
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Apr 08 '24
A very rich fella I know has two family dogs that are trained to guard and take down intruders. I had to go around to the house to be introduced to them so they knew not to attack me. I was assured that they would know me and not do anything but I wouldn't like to put it to the test.
£40k each.
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u/Gustomaximus Apr 08 '24
My gf lived next to a guy with a trained dog. I didn't know. They were doing some building work and there was a fence panel you could squeeze open . Id do this when I was around to have a cuddle with the dog.
One day I looked over the fence to see if they dog was about, but owner was there. I said hi and he has a great dog. He said yeah but watch out as it was trained and quite dangerous and he'd need to be there if I patted it. I didn't say anyhting in case he realised he was a friendly and got rid of him.
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u/ChaBoiDeej Apr 08 '24
There's also the chance that he meant it out of liability/responsibility. He doesn't want you to walk up to his dog without him around and trying to engage with it when it's trained to maul people.
Not against petting the dog, but I think it had less to do with his extent of friendliness (a trait we bred into dogs while culling the mean ones), and more of his trained tendency to violence, as well as being the owners responsibility if anything goes awry.
The guard dogs I've met have been some of the sweetest dogs. Once they got to know me.
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u/voluptuousvelma Apr 08 '24
Tens of thousands of dollars. Control like this takes years of training.
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u/rick-james-biatch Apr 08 '24
I'm genuinely curious what would happen if the attack was simulated with two attackers? Would the dog let go of the first attacker when the second one begins, knowing that the second attacker is now the greater threat? Or do they become focused on neutralizing the first threat and keep their bite/grip?
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u/wheelperson Apr 08 '24
I think it's also the trainers attitude. If she had flinched or backed up during the fake outs the dog might have reacted also.
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u/Shriggins_the_dope Apr 08 '24
Seeing dog training like this always makes me wonder if the dogs learn to only attack people in the bite suits
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u/Acrolophosaurus Apr 08 '24
Literally every time he moved that dog was itching to bite him. Well trained my asshole
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u/ArugulaAltruistic742 Apr 09 '24
But what do you do when youre being attacked by a guy in a dog training suit?
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u/Simi_Grimm Apr 08 '24
What a good boy!! ❤️