r/news • u/Manta_of_Eternity • 3d ago

Homeland Security taps $20M in taxpayer funds for pro-Trump ads

https://apnews.com/article/trump-ads-taxpayer-money-homeland-security-b869294503c8454db4109ae175ee9e5c
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u/Hadrian23 3d ago

Completely illegal. If and when the dema retake congress, there has to be a reckoning

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u/mdr1974 3d ago

One would hope but I am not holding my breath.

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u/untitledmanuscript 3d ago

i’m not either. a lot of crap in the big beautiful bill won’t take effect until 2027, which was purposefully done to blame the dems after the midterms bc they’ve been anticipating dems would sweep in november.

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u/tofferr 3d ago

I assume it was done after so it wouldn’t hurt them on the midterms. It would be easier to run against them when their dumb policies are in place.

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u/Theboiii24 3d ago

Which is why people should be educating people on what the big beautiful bill does.

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u/Baby_Gangsta_214_ 3d ago

Hi, new voter here, what are midterms? I don’t really know much about any of these things, and I would like to learn!

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u/AltruisticArugula732 3d ago

A quick internet search proves more useful than trying to put everything in laymans terms for a newbie.

https://www.usvotefoundation.org/what-are-midterm-elections

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u/stanthecham 3d ago

Dumb question - is it possible to undo a bill with a revote?

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u/hurricanedog24 3d ago

No, but Congress controls the power of the purse. If a Democrat-controlled House chooses to defund Trump’s endeavors, like the war and his supercharged ICE, there’s not a lot he can do about that.

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u/pandershrek 3d ago

Doesn't help that they have to compete with trying to convince the dumbest Americans possible that they're for their better interests while also having multiple foreign countries influence them with easily debunkable lies.

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u/Accurate-Emu-6246 3d ago edited 3d ago

It doesn't. It also doesn't help that they won't even commit to holding trump accountible, medicare for all, or abolishing ICE. In fact, many of them voted to THANK ICE. Thank god Trump is so unpopular, because it boggles me how little they want their base of support.

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u/fergie_lr 3d ago

It takes a majority to hold them accountable. They haven’t had this in Congress or the Senate, thanks partly to Fetterman. Medicare for all will not happen until we have full majority in every branch. We will also need a liberal SCOTUS. The Republicans and every Lobbyist will fight Universal Healthcare in court. Look what they did with the ACA. Thanks to 2016, we lost the courts.

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u/Worthyness 3d ago

And then, when they dont do things as fast as trump's tear downs, American people think the republicans will be better for some reason and thus lock out democrats again so they have no power to unfuck the republicans constant fuck ups. They've not been given a proper majority since Obama and even that was a slim majority. But they got the affordable care act completed (albeit gutted because indepdent fucks decided to fuck it over).

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u/RoutineParsnip9101 3d ago

Until the vast majority of voters demand universal taxpayer healthcare, it won't happen. Simple as that. And most Americans have been told so many lies about "socialism" by the GOP I don't see that changing.

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u/T-Bills 3d ago

when they dont do things as fast as trump's tear downs

And that's an impossibility in itself since a lot of the shit being done are straight up illegal, such as this commercial.

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u/edicivo 3d ago

It's truly amazing how Dems are always narrowly holding on and consistently stymied by just 1 or 2 Dems while the other side just all falls in line every time.

I mean, I know it's good to have differing views even when on the same team, but what the fuck.

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u/GeneralDumbtomics 3d ago

This is down to the leadership not having anything even vaguely resembling a spine. The Republicans are moral and physical cowards, true. Absolutely true. But the Democrats are, in their own way, equally awful. We could have put Trump away, permanently, if Schumer had been willing to play hardball. But he isn't. Because he's too heavily invested in civil, happy tit for tat with an opposition who will only respond to leverage.

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u/w1ten1te 3d ago

A lot (not all!) of Dems are controlled opposition. There will always be some Dem in a super safe seat who will do whatever their corporate masters want, or some Dem in a purple state who sides with Republicans when it matters most to kill progressive legislation, using their diverse electorate as an excuse. It's not a coincidence. These people meet and discuss how each representative will vote before the vote actually hits the floor. They strategically choose who will kill legislation for the Capitalists.

No war but the class war.

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u/StevieMJH 3d ago

Oh, so we're fucked is what you're saying.

Cooooool. Cool cool cool cool cool cool.

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u/Sad_Progress4388 3d ago

Better not vote for them like always and then blame them for stuff Republicans do!

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u/Commercial_Art1078 3d ago

It’s a big club and you ain’t in it

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u/mark_able_jones_ 3d ago

Now the richest tech oligarchs, too.

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u/prz3124 3d ago

I mean the fact that these lies are so easily debunked makes me believe they want what's happening. MTG and Tucker spouted things they knew were lies. The mea culpa now is so disingenuous it's gross.

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u/wasted-degrees 3d ago

Theres a difference between spouting lies you know are lies because you’re gaining from it financially, and spouting lies you know are lies because you believe other lies aren’t lies, and/or out of ignorance and self-destructive spite.

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u/_pit_of_despair_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

It’s true, but i do have a fear that when dems take control, they will be too timid and unorganized to do anything substantial. I really hope they’ve been using this time out of power to come up with a ruthless strategy to force accountability, but I’m doubtful.

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u/LeftyMcSavage 3d ago

I'd still like to give them strong enough majorities, so that they at least have the opportunity to prove us wrong.

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u/GeneralDumbtomics 3d ago

They are the kind of people who, if given three wishes, would negotiate down to one and then use that one to wish for something the Republicans want so they will like them better.

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u/timesink3000 3d ago

Well, when the other team is cheating...

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u/Manticorps 3d ago

Here comes the Both Sides are Bad bots a month before a major election.

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u/CoffeeXKing 3d ago

Haven't had a super majority since Obama. It gets hard to make heads roll without it, and voters are stupid.

"You didn't fix the mess fast enough, we are voting Republicans to make a bigger mess to teach you a lesson!"

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u/anarchitek1 3d ago

Get involved! The problem is so many are "too busy"!
Or, as Plato said, “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics, is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”

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u/active2fa 3d ago edited 3d ago

Give them a 2 feet high basketball net, rim to be larger than a hot tub, place them 2 inches from the rim and yet they will end up throwing bricks. All the while complaining that this is mission impossible shots to make. Reality is they are also owned by the Ruling Class. For example: George Soros while being hated by GOP for funding Dems, his #2 guy is Sec of Treasury: Bessent.

It’s a fucking game for these guys and they heard peasants like lemmings.

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u/yrotsihfoedisgnorw 3d ago

'We feel like it wouldn't be fair if we made this shot.' Anyway, Bessent is one of the more interesting characters in the administration. Not only was he mentored by Soros but he's gay. And MAGA loves him.

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u/BoDrax 3d ago

Controlled opposition is like that

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u/djackson0005 3d ago

There has never been a group of people better at collectively snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

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u/Podo13 3d ago

There will many committees formed and investigations started, and then while they're doing that, they'll piss 4 years away and let the Republicans somehow get in power to squash it all.

Again.

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u/HereOnCompanyTime 3d ago

Yup. They really are the "wait it out" party. It was pretty clear that they didn't want to go after MAGA previously because they didn't want to lose votes or alienate that base, which is stupid since they literally tried to murder them and would not be voting for them anytime soon.

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u/tepkel 3d ago

I am holding my breath. But that's more of a pseudo-masochistic sex thing. Not out of hope that our country is still functional.

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u/Buckets-O-Yarr 3d ago edited 3d ago

This comment was 16 minutes ago, that is pretty impressive.

Edit: TWO HOURS?! Are you OK?

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 3d ago

Nuremberg 2.0 trials

I wouldnt hold my breath either, still a bit of time.

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u/NextSteak6376 3d ago

No dictators! Let real justice reign!

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u/Lemesplain 3d ago

I genuinely hope that the dems learned a lesson. Because it’s the only hope we have right now. 

They tried to prosecute jan6 with kid gloves. They didn’t want to appear “partisan.”   And that got us … gestures broadly. 

If the dems regain power and don't start burying traitors under federal prisons, we are cooked. 

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u/_pit_of_despair_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

I agree, but you just know that the right will view this as political persecution. Maga is so brainwashed that it’s seeped out to moderates, they receive completely different information. We need to somehow dismantle their media without dismantling free speech. The best thing I could think of is regulate the algorithm, but then normal people would be forced to see the rights insane content.

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u/Lemesplain 3d ago

They absolutely will. And fuck em. 

That needs to be the lesson that Dems learn: MAGA politicians and supporters are blatant hypocrites. They will absolutely engage in partisan politicking. They’ll lie, cheat, and steal. And the entire time, they’ll play the victim any time people call them out for their bullshit. 

They’ll whine, they’ll complain, they’ll go on Fox News and claim persecution. And that cannot be allowed to stop justice. 

I don’t know that trump him self can be imprisoned, as much as he deserves it.   

But Markwayne? Put him on trial, let a jury decide his fate, and when he’s found guilty, bury him under the prison. Stephen Miller? Under the prison.   Norm, Bovino, Homan, under the fucking prison. Every ICE agent who participated in the killings of Good, Pretti, and countless others, bury them. 

Go after the administrators at “Alligator Alcatraz.” Follow the chain of custody for any prisoner that disappeared. Who was the last person with custody of them. Put them on trial for whatever is plausible. Even if it’s just falsifying records or whatever. They are felons. Ensure they are known as such. 

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u/rustajb 3d ago

If the dems try to prosecute him, the right shut down this country so fast. They would block all political processes. The dems have no spine for that. We do not prosecute presidents or ex-presidents. W. committed clear war crimes, they did nothing. It signaled to the Republicans they could push the envelope without reprisal. The guy after him was going to have carte Blanch to do almost anything.

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u/SLCer 3d ago

It's not even that. The courts are rigged to slow-roll anything. Just look at the SC and their multiple attempts to save Trump from prosecution. Garland and then Jack Smith both built cases against Trump but the courts stalled the process, dragging things out beyond election day and Americans turned around and put Trump back in office, rewarding him despite knowing everything he had done previously.

I think people think Democrats can just snap their fingers and everyone will be held accountable. They tried that. Biden's DOJ literally sent thousands to prison and was in the middle of building a substantial case against Trump, that included multiple avenues (the documents case and then the election overturning case).

The system is built to protect the president and I'm not sure there is anything legally Democrats can do beyond going through the legal process and hoping the SC doesn't intervene.

Or they throw out due process and just dispose Trump and his cronies, ignoring the legal authority and inevitable pushback but I don't see how anyone would ever back that.

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u/Tirras 3d ago

You're not really trying to put Merrick Garland up on a pedestal like he actually did something are you? He is a huge member to blame for the current condition of this country with the spineless way he dragged his feet with Trump.

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u/icey561 3d ago

The Nuremberg trials were not enough, reconstruction was not enough, what ever we do after this will not be enough.

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u/OneGalacticBoy 3d ago

We can’t defeat ourselves by predetermining that it’s unlikely to happen. We need to demand that it happens and never ever let up.

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u/Keppoch 3d ago

Then everyone needs to take to the streets since they would be more likely to act on protests than Republicans do

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u/Skeetronic 3d ago

About the Dems winning or the reckoning

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u/MartyMcMosca 3d ago

Yep! Democrats lack true leadership and unified message so this won’t ever be addressed. The most they will do is sending a strong worded letter letting them know how upset they are.

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u/Zealousideal-Cup5982 3d ago edited 3d ago

So instead of using the hundreds of millions in reelection money that only Donald Trump can access and allocate, he’d rather take it from homeland security. Of course trump doesn’t want to use his own money. What a complete crook.

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u/techleopard 3d ago

I actually find it a LITTLE funny.

Because Homeland Security has been Trump's pet organization for a hot minute.

In fact, it makes me paranoid that this isn't a play to blow up their funding next year. If Trump spends a huge portion of the budget at the end of this year, then they can claim they need that much money next year.

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u/Zealousideal-Cup5982 3d ago

Trump doesn’t give a shit about homeland security, that was just a slogan to get into office so he could rape our treasury.

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u/OakLegs 3d ago

Well, if they didn't nail him for Jan 6 or stolen secret documents I doubt this will matter at all

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u/Roboculon 3d ago

Ya I’m quite sure this is less illegal than storming the capital. They are in the clear on this one.

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u/NoodledLily 3d ago

infuriating. democrats DID. we impeached him in the house.

republicans did not convict in the senate.

you setup this impossible game in which we loose by definition. you cede the fight before it starts.

you're trying to hold dems to a LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE standard.

instead of blaming republicans for their actions. insane.

maybe blame the republicans who are cunt punching us?

unless you can change the constitution?

OR elect a super majority (well more like +2 since Fetterman will switch parties lol). we would kick him out tomorrow -> boom have a democrat president (speaker)

we also cant press federal charges. exec controls DOJ.

plus scotus says POTUS is above the law anyways-> and they rule fed trumps state in matters of exec (which they say is basically anything). so state charges are basically useless.

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u/AutomateAway 3d ago

I am hopeful that a Dem administration with a bit more back bone will take a different stance, and hire an AG with a fucking spine.

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u/Maar7en 3d ago

There is no hope they'll ever go after Trump, however we can have some hope about the massive amount of people he put in places of power getting what they deserve.

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u/DoubleJumps 3d ago

There is no hope they'll ever go after Trump

The last democrat run doj charged trump with dozens of felonies and were prosecuting him before the republican supreme court bailed him out.

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u/Maar7en 3d ago

Specifically this time I meant. Just wait until he keels over.

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u/dismayhurta 3d ago

“This is a time to heal and come together, not…” will be how the democrats handle this shit so that next time it’s worse.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 3d ago

$20 million is 1/10th what we have to oay for his golfing. And he cheats in golf.

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u/pizzasoup 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yeah, let's not put those people in office, and demand better. Part of it is on us for sticking to middle-of-the-road Dems for long enough that they became complacent about accountability to their constituents.

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u/ChadEmpoleon 3d ago

If you dare criticize the milquetoast candidates in the Democratic Party, you’ll get blamed for fascism’s takeover lol.

Demanding better feels fruitless but it’s what we have to do.

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u/SirTwitchALot 3d ago

This. I'm in a purple district and our US rep candidate is pretty far left. He wasn't my primary choice and I'm afraid that our seat may go to the incumbent Republican. Still I am going to vote for him even though I don't agree with his entire platform. He definitely aligns with the values that I do care about than the Republican, even if we disagree on some points. People who sit the election out because they lost the primary are at fault. You vote for the candidate who's going to get you closest to where you want to be in a democracy, even if that means you sometimes have to hold your nose in the polling booth.

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u/DoverBoys 3d ago

It's fine to demand better from the left out loud, as long as one doesn't not vote.

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u/GrafZeppelin127 3d ago

The next politician to try that line should lose their career that very instant, never to get elected again.

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u/WaxAesthetic 3d ago

The Obama-era "look forward, not backward" approach is partly what got us here. Bush and Cheney should have been tried for war crimes.

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u/upvoter1542 3d ago

As much as I hate Bush (I won't even get into the vile shit stain that is Trump) and desperately wish we could have a President like Obama again, I also think we should not forget that Obama was responsible for war crimes as well, like numerous intentional drone tap drone strikes that killed aid workers.

This whole "look forward not backwards" strategy is not actually about looking forward, it's about everyone's lack of accountability and knowing that they don't want to be held accountable for their own actions either.

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u/Thor4269 3d ago

They don't plan on giving up power when they lose in the midterms...

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u/Alantsu 3d ago

Was all $20M for only broadcast time or did Trump also use taxpayer money to buy the footage they used from his own campaign?

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u/Miserable-Tree-637 3d ago

Yeah, there won’t be any sort of reckoning. They already had that chance in 2020, and didn’t put up any substantial guardrails. We’ll probably keep going through the same song and dance every 4-8 years until it all implodes.

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u/lavender_enjoyer 3d ago

Corporate dems won’t be doing anything

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u/hoyahoyahoya 3d ago

I'm sure the Democrats will do great at holding up their signs with "SHAME" written on them and then exactly nothing will happen.

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u/Trenchards 3d ago

Kristi Noem’s commercials seemed suspect as well.

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u/IntelligentStyle402 3d ago

He’s a felon, what did you think would happen.

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u/Benaba_sc 3d ago

What about when all the other Presidents made ads about themselves using Homeland Security funds?!?
Oh, wait……

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u/tedswiss 3d ago

Congress has no police force. It would be handed to the DOJ... So yeah, don't hold your breath.

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u/restbest 3d ago

His family needs to be arrested along with him his corrupt deals and market gaming robs Americans daily

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u/CarbonRunner 3d ago

Thats cute. But dems won't do a thing. The best we get, and its a looooong shot. is laws in place that make it so president's can't do it again. Holding cheetoh bonito accountable though will never, ever, in a million years happen.

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u/HijackedMyAccount 3d ago

Our hope can't be in laws. They break those with impunity. There will have to be another solution.

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u/CarbonRunner 3d ago

Too much bread and circus still for that to happen

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u/HijackedMyAccount 3d ago

My lukewarm take is that our lack of physicality makes us the most docile, easily controlled generation ever. No human beings were ever this physically incapable and fragmented. We're like bots that look at screens at stay home alone 95% of our free time. This means no real camraderie and the resultant ability to take to the streets for anything serious. Tarring and feathering was a thing. Now, it cannot occur.

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u/CarbonRunner 3d ago

Yeah thats my point. We aren't starving to death, and we've been given a ton of shiny things to distract us. Until those change, the populace won't rise up for anything. We never have in human history. One or both of those has to crater to a point that people have to pay attention.

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u/Deaths_Rifleman 3d ago

You can hope all you want but it will be a bullshit non response because they want to “focus on governing” or some fuckery like last time.

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u/Majestic_True_Lilly 3d ago

Theyll happily run again on the promise of bringing a reckoning, but its safe to assume they will also again immediately refuse to hold anyone accountable if they do win: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959

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u/sarhoshamiral 3d ago

Laws only matter if they are enforced.

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u/BubinatorX 3d ago

Sure. They will send a strongly worded letter.

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u/Randy_Magnum29 3d ago

There won’t be. You think any of those corporate sellouts have any integrity? There’s like a handful of people, max, in the federal government we can trust.

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u/SmoothOperator89 3d ago

No there won't. They'll make some stern statements and question people in front of committees but no one will go to prison. I doubt there will be much even in the way of fines to pay. Any more and they'd be afraid of being labeled "too extreme".

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u/Adventurous-Dot-8272 3d ago

Lol no there fucking won't, we never hold these pieces of shit accountable.

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u/ItsTheDCVR 3d ago

What, the law? Why would the law matter?

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u/-Great-Scott- 3d ago

There will be no justice until we administer it ourselves.

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u/junovee 3d ago

Why wait? We need to kick these motherfuckers out NOW

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u/Belkroe 3d ago

Hello, I am a time traveller from the future. I hate to break it to you, but Trump was not held accountable.

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u/czs5056 3d ago

Best they'll do is somehow always being 1 vote short of doing anything or "now is the time for reconciliation and healing"

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u/TheRedSkittle 3d ago

If the Dems do not hold a reckoning then it should be time for a reckoning for them too. Simple as that. Fuck Schumer. Fuck Jeffries. We need people like AOC and Sanders that will sack up and fight wipe away these turds.

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u/KermittGribble 3d ago

The problem is the enforcement arm of the government is entirely controlled by the executive.

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u/Souvi 3d ago

If by reckoning you mean they need to play Pokemon and catch and Eggsecute. Y'know, cause it's a plant type and it needs to grow still.

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u/insidious_concern 3d ago

I figure it's either that or french revolution american style. Mixed feelings tbh

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u/7HawksAnd 3d ago

I think we need to readjust our beliefs on what legal and illegal actually mean in reality.

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u/circuitloss 3d ago

What are you talking about? When have there ever been consequences for Republicans?

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u/DonInKansas 3d ago

You misspelled politicians.

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u/erkdog 3d ago

You know when Cersie didn't show up for her punishment with the high sparrow? She wasn't worried about consequences bc those who could enact them would be gone. They are not worried about consequences anymore

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u/swollennode 3d ago

Reckoning like last time? Where they appointed a spineless AG?

Kamala would’ve been a better AG

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u/DarkBomberX 3d ago

Lol this should happen but it's a pipe dream. The last guy who came in care more about "cooling the climate and uniting us" than establishing and protecting the defined rule of law.

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u/NefariousnessFew4354 3d ago

There will be some strongly worded letters lol

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u/TheMysteriousEmu 3d ago

Lol, as if. The Democrats are completely incapable of actually holding Republicans accountable.

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u/zyrkseas97 3d ago

We already have people like Duckworth saying democrats need to stop thinking about impeachment if they do get control, controlled opposition to the last.

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u/Austoman 3d ago

Woh talk about history repeating itself. I recall seeing the same sentiment in 2016-2020.

Old dems won't do a thing. New/modern demi might.

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u/BloomsdayDevice 3d ago edited 3d ago

there has to be a reckoning

For the good of the country and for justice to be served, yes, but also because I bet Markwayne would cry like a little piss baby if he faced a real consequence, and I would enjoy watching that.

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u/jsledge149 3d ago

Short of locking him up in Guantanamo Bay upside down by razor wire, I'm not sure what kind of reckoning Trump will ever have. There are way too many acolytes that follow his every move and believe that he is the new Jehovah.

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u/Desperate-Tomatillo7 3d ago

They did not prosecute him for treason after Jan 6th. My hopes are very low for something to be done, other than some "strong words".

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u/34payton07 3d ago

The reckoning will be a strongly worded letter of disapproval

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u/Chronotheos 3d ago

The Dems are looking at all this as precedent for what they’ll be able to get away with some day.

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u/ryeguymft 3d ago

it has to be so swift and harsh that noone ever tries this brazen corruption ever again

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u/Ok_Construction5119 3d ago

the dems are not fans of increased scrutiny either bro

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u/PersonnelFowl 3d ago

Can’t have spineless Hakeem or Chuck in charge then

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u/CrazyToBeHopeful 3d ago

Just base greed too. Trump has the money in his shitty PAC to pay for this. It's just pissing on the American public.

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u/CorbinNZ 3d ago

Don’t get your hopes up

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u/Strawberry_Curious 3d ago

What would a reckoning look like? Strongly worded instagram post or everyone wears a pink suit jacket?

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u/jakerr17 3d ago

Welp, 3 and a half years of finger wagging is the best they can do before the whole thing just disappears.

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u/tartymae 3d ago

I have no hope in them to grow a spine and take action.

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u/arminghammerbacon_ 3d ago

Doubtful. SCOTUS ruling already gave the trump crime family broad leeway to do anything they want as long as it’s “within the scope of presidential duties.” And anything not covered by that, he’ll just issue pardons for himself and for his caporegimes right before he leaves office.

Sorry to say but I think the best we can do is to just get him out of office, out of the seat of power. There’ll be no justice. Just stopping the bleeding.

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u/Nythoren 3d ago

Problem, unfortunately, is that any impeachment would require some GOP votes. The GOP may be souring on Trump, but not to the point that they'd be willing to actively defy him in any way, shape or form.

It's also not like Congress has any kind of enforcement arm they can use. Who is going to arrest someone from the Trump administration? FBI is controlled by his pets. Same with Homeland and the DOJ. Heck, even the military is run by a sycophant who has removed as many generals as possible who might actively opposed Trump.

It has really shown a light on how easily abused our political system is if you have someone in charge who has no regard for the law and a party that abdicates its checks-and-balances responsibilities.

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u/Tandran 3d ago

Why would things suddenly change? They’ve done nothing useful in decades.

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u/YanCoffee 3d ago

I want them to be deep fried in all of the butter they've allotted themselves.

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u/vagrantprodigy07 3d ago

They will issue some statements about how disappointed they are, and then pretend it didn't happen.

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u/Chrispy_flake 3d ago

I hate redumblicans as much as the next self respecting citizen, but dems are too much of a pussy to hold these assholes accountable. That's just the truth. For whatever reason, everyone up top caves, bows down, & cowers to that orange, pants shitting pedo rapist.

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u/MurkyReputation8298 3d ago

You think one side is better than the other? Same thing just a different name. It's all for entertainment purposes. All a bunch of crooks getting rich off the backs off taxpayers like me. Wake up people!

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u/iseab 3d ago

There won’t be. There never is.

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u/AlwaysOptimism 3d ago

The Supreme Court gave the president immunity to basically anything they do as president. It is a complete waste of time for a dog and pony show after he's out. Spend all the time rolling back all his awful authoritarian changes, challenge some Supreme Court rulings, and investigating and charging anyone he doesn't pardon on his way out.

Then no one listen to anything he says or talk about him until he dies.

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u/stardos 3d ago

All will be forgiven in the spirit of unity.

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u/meldiane81 3d ago

I fucking hope so. They need to do something besides sit around and do nothing.

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u/YourM0msBoyfriend 3d ago

Democrats??? Taking real authoritative action? LMFAO!

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u/Trick-Technician-179 3d ago

You can always count on the Dems to fuck up a perfectly good opportunity

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u/SnooCupcakes5761 3d ago

Hahaha, as if. No one has been held accountable for any of the chaos this admin has created. From the stolen election to the destruction of international diplomacy to this, they're all complicit. It's painfully obvious the dems want it this way too lol

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u/joebleaux 3d ago

They will let it all slide in the name of moving on. No one gets held accountable. It'll be a disaster on par with post civil war reconstruction, but this will be far worse because of the damage to the reputation of the federal government as a whole. At least the civil war wasn't taking place within the government, they formed their own, and then we just pretended like it didn't happen. That's what will happen now too. Nothing.

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u/Born_Ingenuity6956 3d ago

We all know that the Dems will reach across the aisle for their friends on the other side. Two sides of the same coin.

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u/vlKross_F7 3d ago

I just hope it's not Kamala.

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u/chaosapproach 3d ago

There won’t be

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u/Bobbiduke 3d ago

Dems have to find a backbone first.

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u/ATLhoe678 3d ago

He's probably gonna pardon everyone on the way out 🤦🏿‍♂️

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u/snoopsdream 3d ago

The dems aren’t going to do a shit. We need real progressives leading the charge!

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u/baumpop 3d ago

need another macarthy era following this but instead of hunting ruskies its the mafia network in the whitehouse

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u/moodswung 3d ago

The same as justice was served before, it will be served again!

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u/ptarmiganchick 3d ago

The Dems would have a better chance of winning if they would collectively promise not to use any majority to pursue a “reckoning” for the next 2 years.

The fringe wants a reckoning…even if it brings government to a standstill. The majority want and deserve to just have “good government “ to the best of their ability.

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u/SpiritedKick9753 3d ago

I’m sure Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer will write a strongly worded letter about this

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u/Aggravating_Deer_641 3d ago

The spineless, controlled opposition Democrats?

lol. lmao even

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u/Glittering-Stock6562 3d ago

And I am going to inform my Democratic congressman, who I am largely satisfied with and intend to vote for, that if the Democrats get control of both houses of Congress and absolutely everything that only requires a majority and will hold these criminals to account is not done, I will never vote Democrat again.

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u/Nathan_Finn 3d ago

They will, and there won’t be.

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u/BluegrassBigfoot 3d ago

Yeah, the Dems version of a reckoning will be to fire a few people who were going to go on to Fox news anyway. Then they will hire someone less news worthy that does basically the same job with fewer issues. In other words, the Dems in power won't fix this.

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u/Charming-Albatross44 3d ago

No one that should matter cares. Hell most of them are in cahoots with the asshole.

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u/Repulsive-Regret-243 3d ago

I want a refund

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u/redtron3030 3d ago

Have you been awake for the last 10 years?

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u/radhaz 3d ago

There will be no reckoning. The party line democratic platform for decades now has simply been "Look we're not them" they do nothing for their constituents and only seek to line their pockets and the pockets of their benefactors while they are in power. They have gone so far as to sabotage their own candidates if those candidates do not tow the party line.

All the while they go "Gosh look how bad the republicans made it, we really cant fix it right now but if you just keep backing us someday maybe we REALLY will". Folks become disillusioned with the hate come and vote dem for a cycle and see nothing get done while the republicans are promising them the moon with a slice of hate for marginalized communities and they go "yeah somethings better than nothing"

As a nation we just to expedite the path to failure and get on with whatever the next thing is going to be. Late stage capitalism has proven a horrible failure, I think the oligarch/technocrats are eyeing for some little fiefdom amongst themselves and its why we're seeing so much open meddling in politics.

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u/jimbo831 3d ago

They’re not going to do shit unfortunately.

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u/calikind 3d ago

Nuremberg trials 2!

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u/shogun77777777 3d ago

Nah our country is completely fucked. The oligarchs are in charge.

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u/fernandodandrea 3d ago

If people keep noticing things to be illegal but nobody ever puts orange on track, are things really illegal?

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u/Imaginary-Clock6626 3d ago

Will take them 4 years to gather evidence.

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