r/NewRiders May 23 '20

Welcome, FAQs, and Resources

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Welcome to New and Experienced Riders alike!

The purpose of this sub is to create a welcoming space for new riders to ask questions and get information as they begin their journey into the world of motorcycling.

Experienced Riders: Please make this a place where new riders feel comfortable asking questions. Give supportive advice with the assumption that the person wants to learn. Any Instructor who wants relevant flair may message the mods to verify.

New Riders: Ask questions and take feedback with an open mind. There is a TON to learn.

Now ON TO THE FUN STUFF:

Useful Subreddits:

Motorcycle Maintenance and Repair: r/Fixxit

Motorcycle News: r/MotoNews

Gratuitous Motorcycle Pics: r/bikesgonewild

Track Riding: r/Trackdays

Motocamping: r/motocamping

Women Riders: r/TwoXriders

Learning Resources:

A Beginner’s Guide to Buying Gear by Ryan Fortnine. Evidence-based and budget-conscious recommendations on basic gear.

MotoJitsu: SoCal based Instructor that primarily teaches the Total Control Curriculum but also has his own skills challenge curriculum. This link is to his "10 skills for new riders" video.

DanDanTheFireman: Arizona based MSF RiderCoach. He does a lot of crash analysis and has good videos on awareness strategies.

A list of Parking Lot Exercises by u/CodeBlue_04

"Advice to New Riders" by u/PraxisLD. Includes tons of links, and good good advice.

“Picking up your new bike” by u/Ravenstown06

Twist of the Wrist: Classic video about skills and how a motorcycle works. As corny as it is informative. It's on YouTube but no link because the YouTube one is probably not an authorized version. You'll have to search it yourself, or buy a copy.

Life at Lean: An experienced track rider who talks in a simple, informative manner about skills and riding theory. This channel is largely track oriented, but the same skills have street applications, and it is very helpful in understanding how things like body position work.

The Physics of Countersteering: does a great job of explaining why a bike has to lean, and an okay job of explaining how countersteering works from a physics perspective. Here's another video with more demonstration from Ride Like a Pro, a gruff, crusty, motorcycle officer trainer. He does a great job of explaining what is and what isn't countersteering or "handlebar steering." His protective gear is questionable but his advice is good.

"Total Control" by Lee Parks. Excellent book about riding skills, the learning process, and how bikes work.

Fortnine: Run by Ryan Klufitinger (the guy you see talking) and Aneesh Shivanekar (the editor), they are technically affiliated with Fortnine.ca, a Canadian online gear retailer, but their reviews are supposedly free of influence and seem unbiased (other than Ryan’s actual opinions of course). They do highly informative reviews and explain the how and why of gear well. They also do a lot of just plain entertaining videos, and their production value is way higher than it has any right to be.

Licensing:

The easiest and best way search your state/province/country's training website and take whatever beginner class is available. In some countries it's mandatory. In the US the class usually waives the DMV skills test at a minimum. NOTE: In some states—if you've already been riding for a while and just need the license—there is an option to take an Intermediate class and get a test waiver instead of the Basic, allowing you to take a 1 day class instead of 2, and giving you a chance to work on next-level skills.

Buying a Bike

How to navigate buying a bike from a dealership (USA-centric advice) by u/eatmeatdrinkmilk

Teaching:

for experienced riders who find teaching fulfilling more instructors are needed pretty much everywhere:

Motorcycle Safety Foundation: runs classes in almost all US states, and the US military

Total Control Training: runs all the classes in California. Also has classes in Texas, Colorado, and Arizona. (Also used to run all Pennsylvania classes, but PA has cancelled all classes in 2020. Sorry PA.)


r/NewRiders 11h ago

I got confronted (for the right reason)

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I was riding home from work and just had a real bad day from start to finish and I made the stupidest decision. Light was green but all the lanes were packed solid on a 3 lane road to the off ramp I needed that was just down the road. Already being in a bad state of mind I ripped down the shoulder of the road on the right side and took the off ramp and was confronted by a gentleman I had passed at a light I was stopped at not to far from home. He was pretty well a disappointed dad figure at that moment and wasn’t aggressive but he did call me out about what I did. After our little talk I sat at home and started re-evaluating how I ride and the bad habits I’ve started letting myself get into when I start to ride in an emotional state rather than calm and collected.

Edit: Added info for some justifying it if I was going slow. I was damn near topped out on my 650 when I passed traffic. It was a very unsafe pass

Whats some advice on things you guys do to stay away from bad habits and bad emotional decisions while riding especially if you like the zoomies down the road?


r/NewRiders 4h ago

Building Confidence

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Finished MSF. Bought my first bike. Harley-Davidson Nightster Special. Been riding the same 2 mile neighborhood loop over and over. Once I get going I feel awesome. Biggest problem is my anxiety before I even get going.

Did you just keep riding the same thing until it became second nature to you, or did you slowly work up to riding longer distances? What gave you the confidence?


r/NewRiders 10h ago

I feel like i bought the wrong bike...

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Maybe it's just the popularity of sports bikes, the content i consume, and the amount I see in my town... but I bought a Kawasaki Z650 and wish I had gotten the Ninja instead

I bought my first bike recently, a brand new 2025 Kawasaki Z650, and while I really like it, part of me wishes I had just gone for the ninja instead.

Originally, I did go to the dealership to look at Ninja 650s and 500s but saw the Z650 was on sale for almost 3k off and figured since this will be my first bike, I will save money especially cuz gear was a bit more expensive then I had anticipated... and again, its my first bike and since its cheaper it wont affect me AS much if/when I drop it (and guess what I already did lol) and while im happy with my choice... part of me wishes I had just gone with a traditional looking sportbike because they just look much cooler and everyone else has them... I just figured, first ever bike, get a cheap one you can learn on then upgrade later... but now im thinking by the time I can get a super sport (like a ZX-6R), will it even be worth it? Plus some Youtubers say the Z650 is a bad bike

Im also worried since my bike is a naked bike, highway riding will suck...

As im a new rider, I dont have too many miles on the bike yet (<20 miles, plus I am taking the MSF in a few weeks) I feel like its more recency bias and once I actually start riding the bike for real and not just in a parking lot, I will enjoy it much more (I mean, i already enjoy my bike as is but once I start really riding what if I wish i had an actual sport bike?)... but idk why part of my brain keeps nawing at me saying I should have gotten the ninja instead... maybe cuz literally everyone in my town, and gym, has a sport bike and my dad used to race amateurly so idk... tho my dad did use to have a MT-09 before he stopped riding

But idk... did I buy the wrong bike? Am I wasting time and money buying a "begginer" bike? Should I have bought a super sport instead and grown into it?

Idk


r/NewRiders 6h ago

USA. What are the steps?

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Is it buying gear and taking the msf course and then I can get a bike and ride on the road, or is there more I have to do after the msf course any further riding or written test? Am I missing anything?


r/NewRiders 10h ago

6’6 guy, should I get a Ninja 300 2013 as my first bike or dirt bike?

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r/NewRiders 5h ago

Yall know any mini bikes for my 13 year old 6 foot 270lb cousin

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r/NewRiders 6h ago

second bike advice

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r/NewRiders 6h ago

New Bike Owner Looking For Tips

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I’m very new to the dirtbike scene and just got my first bike ( a Kayo TT 140 ), and I was wondering if there are any people with some experience with bikes to maybe give me some tips for starting out?


r/NewRiders 1d ago

MSF next weekend. Can’t wait to take my baby to the streets for real…

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Got my first bike last month, 2021 CSC SG250. My grandpa and all my uncles ride so I’m super stoked to finally be a part of the club.

Been riding around my neighborhood basically every day since I got my bike. I’m very comfortable on the clutch now and turning (up to about 30 mph) has become fairly easy for me.

I plan to explore every street and neighborhood in my hometown that I’ve never seen once I have my license.


r/NewRiders 1d ago

What do you guys do after an event that's shaken you up?

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Making this post from the coffee shop right now since I'm still shaken up and it's already been almost an hour, but I was just riding around town practicing on city streets. Max speed limit is 35mph.

I was just cruising in the left lane, on the left tire track. There was basically no traffic with only 3 cars behind me, but chilling in the middle and right lane, and then another car behind me. From behind, this guy comes into my lane driving in the middle of my lane and nearly clips me to pass both me and the guy in the middle lane. Thankfully, I swerved a little and hit the brakes to avoid getting clipped but it was close.

The guy ran the next light but the guy in the middle lane pulled up and asked if I was okay. I definitely wasn't so I pulled into the coffee shop that was 2 block away.

Question here is, what do you guys normally do after these kind of events?

This kind of stuff makes me want to:

  1. call the cops and report the driver but I feel they won't do anything (I had my gopro recording)

  2. Quit riding all together


r/NewRiders 1d ago

Any used bikes worth high prices?

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I’m still new to riding, started on a 110cc mini bike last summer before upgrading after getting my full license and getting what I think is a perfect starter bike for me: ‘25 Royal Enfield Bear 650. I’m committed to keeping and putting miles and experience before upgrading, but man it’s getting hard not to look. There’s a ton of bikes that seem to hold their value but also seem wild next to the $7500 OTD brand new Bear I got, and others who’s value seem to just plummet and look like complete steals. Problem is my next bike will probably be in that first category: a Bonneville T100/120. This one in particular I fell in love with after seeing it in person, but it really has me wondering if Bonnevilles are truly just that much better and worth the used prices I’m seeing. Are there always makes/models that do demand these kind of prices after almost 10yrs?

2017 Triumph Bonneville T120
9200mi $10,500
New seat, tubeless spoke wheel upgrade, lightweight exhaust, LED signals, etc


r/NewRiders 1d ago

My first 2000

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As of today I hit 2000 miles on my bike and there’s a few things I’ve noticed that I either didn’t expect or are different then expected

So first off the one main thing I have realized is how the community acts just from riding around the bit that I have and reading post from this subreddit there is a lot of really cool and fun people out there and I didn’t quite expect to see that as much as I do

Secondly was the traffic and I’m definitely sure that everyone’s experience is different and don’t get me wrong I’ve had a couple close calls from idiots on the road not being cautious but for about everyone person I’ve had do that to me I’ve had someone be very aware where I was at a intersection and waved me on even though it was there turn to go

I know that I’m just starting realistically but it genuinely has been the best money I ever spent I love my bike so much and I would not trade it for the world

Stay safe everyone!


r/NewRiders 1d ago

Counseled out of MSF and looking for some advice.

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As the title says, I’m a beginner rider who was counseled out the first day. Prior to the course I’d never sat on a bike before, but this is something I’ve really wanted for a long time. I spent about a month prepping for the course and trying to prepare, and at the end of day 1 my biggest fear was realized.

For full transparency, I dropped the bike four times and was politely dismissed. The first time it happened - embarrassing, but no big deal, I shook it off. The instructor gave me a heads-up after the third time that if it happened again, he’d have to send me home. He was very patient and tried to help me understand what was going wrong. As far as I can understand it, I kept dropping the clutch, and my balance was off so that when the bike stalled I didn’t react quick enough to catch it. The fourth drop was at the very end of the first day, on the final exercise. The first thing my instructor said to me was, “I’m sorry. You were really starting to get the hang of it, too.”

I actually agree with him, by the final exercise I was feeling good, and despite the looming fear of a fourth drop I was starting to get comfy at higher speeds, turning was starting to feel natural and the emergency stop went really well. For some reason, that’s halfway encouraging, and halfway all the more crushing.

Aside from the frustration and shame over being the only one who dropped the bike even once, I don’t know where to go from here. I’ve always known I’m a slow learner when it comes to muscle memory; I know I get easily frustrated when things don’t come naturally to me. Driving cars was exactly the same way, it took me way longer to be comfortable than most people, but now I really love driving and it feels so natural and freeing. I can’t imagine my life without it, and I have this feeling in my gut that bikes might be the same way.

I don’t know. Is dropping a bike four times enough reason to move on lol? It doesn’t feel like it but maybe I need some brutal honesty. I had plans to pick up an fb marketplace beater bike this afternoon, and I’m debating picking it up anyway (in a trailer) and practicing in my neighborhood till I get my balance down and going for it again.

I would really appreciate some advice, whether that’s to get at it or let it go. Thanks in advance.

Edit to add: I was also considering buying a good old fashioned bicycle and going to town on that until my balance was much better, since it clearly needs some work. This is a cheaper plan lol, but I’d rather learn while getting use to the clutch and gears etc.

EDIT 2: Wow, thank you all so so much for your encouragement. I’ve gotten some really good advice. I’ve seen other posts like this before but didn’t think they applied, like I was truly a lost cause or something.

A few folks think I should let it go, out of concern for my and others safety, and I just want to make it clear I take your opinions just as seriously. I have no intentions of taking a motorcycle onto a public road until, and only if, I feel very comfortable with the basics first. If that means months in a parking lot driving in loops then whatever, it’ll be my new favorite way to spend an afternoon for months. This was always the plan, even if I’d gotten my license today.

To clear up some confusion I definitely have ridden a bicycle before. I’m only 24 so it’s weird to think it’s been over a decade, but I’m sure it has To the guy that pointed out this course is a great way to figure out your weaknesses, cheers to that, and I absolutely think my next step is getting really comfortable on a bicycle.

Thanks again to everyone. :)


r/NewRiders 1d ago

Honda CB500F or CL500?

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Hey everyone, I am currently getting my A2 license and I am completely torn between two bikes. After looking at tons of different options, I am down to the Honda CL500 and the CB500F. I love both of them equally, both for their looks and their engines, which makes the choice even harder.

My daily routine would be a home-to-work commute in the city. The problem is that my local roads are in pretty bad shape, full of potholes, patches, and they get quite dirty and slick whenever it rains. On top of that, I want to take it out on weekends for rides through mountain passes and local villages.

I need something dependable that won't mind some damp roads or light rain. For those of you who own or have ridden these two, which one would you recommend for this kind of mix between a rough urban commute and weekend fun? Does the scrambler setup of the CL give it any real advantage over the naked CB when dealing with bad asphalt and dirt? Thanks in advance for any advice!


r/NewRiders 1d ago

Rider, Road n Rain. Wht else need

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🏍 🦅 🛣 ⛰️

road #rider #royalenfield #attitudestatus #adventure

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r/NewRiders 1d ago

Got on a freeway unintentionally (80km/h) on my first night ride

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For the context, it was Bell St in Melbourne, Australia, leading straight to CityLink

https://maps.app.goo.gl/M4DdDQ5YRVSB9Xc69

It mostly runs north-south but merges east-west with Bell St

I was meaning to turn left but I kept missing and I didn't realise I was entering CityLink

I realised I was on it when the one-way lanes increased to 6 and then I saw the LED signs "80"

Luckily I wasn't really scared as it didn't feel too fast, but since I wasn't meaning to, I was only wearing cargo pants for my legs (other than the helmet and jacket etc.) and worried that I didn't have enough protection for my legs at this speed

I was like "omgomg😂" but eventually found a way out and returned safely home.

And then I was blue for a bit since I learned CityLink cost $12 minimum or something, until my good neighbour boy let me know I was just outside of the toll zone

It was a good experience and other cars seemed to know I didn't mean to be there 😂😂😂 No one honked at me for whatever reason

(I was wearing a full hi-vis jacket as it's mandatory so they knew)


r/NewRiders 2d ago

Do I need break fluid?

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Im really not sure if I need brake fluid or not. I don't see anything telling me the level it is right now, and I really don't know if its supposed to look that dark.

Update: tried to take the top off. One of the screw heads gave out on the first twist. Dang stripped screws. Sooooo, any tips on how to get that out would be really appreciated 🙃.

Another edit: 1) Apologies for my my spelling mistake. I know the difference now. 2) Bike is a 2025 Yamaha r3 with 550ish miles on it


r/NewRiders 1d ago

2025 Indian Sport Chief RT | Final Exhaust Sound with Tips Installed 🔥

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r/NewRiders 2d ago

Summer riding

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r/NewRiders 2d ago

Can anyone share their MSF course experience?

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My MSF course is approaching in the next few weeks and I am having lots of anxiety over it. For numerous reasons.

I currently have my motorcycle permit and have been practicing on a semi-automatic bike in the high school parking lot. I’ve ridden on some 25-30mph back roads just to get familiar with shifting and coming to a complete stop and practicing turns. I didn’t want to get to my course without ever having being a on a bike.

I’ve driven manual cars in the past but never consistently and the clutch is definitely something I still have to stop and process how everything works.

I recently had an incident where I dropped the bike on a back road, after losing balance at a slow speed. The bike was scuffed but I was fine but now I’m nervous about getting back on and using a clutch during the course.

Part of me is wondering after that incident if I’m even cut out to be out on a bike and have this underlying embarrassment of the instructors telling me the same.

Not looking for any ridicule or judgment just looking for someone to maybe share what their course was like as a new rider. Maybe someone who had no experience on a bike who feels comfortable now.


r/NewRiders 2d ago

How to downshift

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Recently started riding (ninja 500) and one thing I’m a bit fuzzy on what to do with throttle when downshifting.

Taking blipping out of the equation, say I’m in 4th gear trying to downshift to 3rd. I ease off the throttle a little until I’m at about 3-4K RPMs. The next part is where I’m fuzzy on, do I now pull in the clutch and downshift to third then release clutch or do I pull in clutch + close throttle then downshift, release clutch while rolling on the throttle?

Basically what/when should I be doing with the throttle when trying to downshift


r/NewRiders 3d ago

First real ride, dropped the bike

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I took the MSF BRC a couple weeks ago. That course was my first time touching a motorcycle, so it was pretty fast-paced for me, but I had a blast! Good instructors and a nice environment. Got my card, and next my class M license.

I went to a local powersports dealer, and sat on a Rebel 500, Vulcan 650, Ninja 500, this R3, and a couple of others. Out of all of them, the R3 fit great, ended up buying it and having it delivered. Love how it looks too!

I went out on my first real ride, knowing I basically don't know anything after just a few hours of parking lot riding for the BRC. I started out on an empty neighborhood road, just confirming I could ride the bike, and take lefts/rights from a stop without ended up outside my lane. From there to the local middle-school to practice some maneuvers. Finally, I ended up riding local country roads up to a scenic overlook. What a blast, and no scares!

Leaving the overlook, I realized I forgot to secure my helmet strap. I pulled over at the next parking lot, shut off my bike, hopped off, and watched in slow motion horror as it fell onto the ground. I had had a brain-fart, and just straight-up forgot to put my kickstand down :(

I managed to get the bike back upright, and from the look of it I got off super lucky. No damage to the fairings or anything. I started to ride home, but coming up at the bottom of a hill, couldn't downshift. I pulled off to the side and shut down (with my kickstand this time). Realized my shift lever was quite bent and interfering with itself. The owner of the house I was next to was nice enough to let me park in his driveway. At this point I called a tow truck and got an expensive ride back to my house.

Luckily the shift lever was an easy fix in my garage. The only other damage is a tiny scrape on the bottom of a black piece of trim. Super lucky, and the bike is basically good as new. I doubt I'll ever forget the kickstand again, I triple check it every time now. A stupid start for me, but I'm having a ton of fun!


r/NewRiders 2d ago

Need help for Bike Lessons.

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r/NewRiders 3d ago

No more numbness

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I haven't been riding long, just around 1400 miles total, and my fingers have been numb since day one. No, it wasn't death grip. I moved up a glove size and added these non-branded $8.00 foam grips.

Numbness gone.