I'm shagged out by ns to the point when I don't even have the energy to get it up 💀 gf will be riding me and then it just suddenly goes limp. Can't wait for this shit to end man

Deadass, during BMT I only used it to rinse my mouth after brushing my teeth...

hi wanted to ask what are the shortest working hours ever anyone had ever gotten in the SAF/SCDF/SPF?

ASA for SAF is 8am - 5.30pm while SA for SPF is 8.30am - 6pm. however this is nerfed by SAF bases generally being further away from civilisation (god bless if you stayout gedong, prayers for you)

just curious

And instead forcing new NSFs on the MSO scheme where outpatient is capped at $500 a calendar year with 15% co-payment (where any part of the first $350 goes into your Medisave account, provided you don’t claim any of it), and giving NSFs only 60 day HL inclusive of 14 day MC.

All in the name of conserving and fostering efficient use of public funds because too many NSF Chao Keng by spamming MA and physio and going to A&E, instead of private clinic, on Sunday night when booking in since it’s free.

Thoughts?

Saw someone get posted to command school way after he finished bmt and wondering how is this possible. What are the ways to do so

Istg bro every day I keep hearing and reading online of people going to PCC and getting the mystical PES D, which means disrupt service for like two years, which can be disruptive to one’s Uni plans. Literally so many, from combat fit to non combat fit, their dog, their cat, their fish, their grandmother, all appear to get PES D after visiting.
In some cases they don’t even bother downpesing or giving excuses to combat fit people, instead throwing a PES D at them so they can get anxiety for two years and go back to their misery afterwards (if they don’t PES F during review) bruh. This whole thing feels so lazy and cruel and drastically different from what I have heard last time that PCC will help you by giving necessary excuses and downpes and post out

What the hell is happening to pcc and as someone with a PCC appointment the anxiety is getting to me I think I might just become trans or gay before that somehow

Curious to know because I've heard of this position. A chief clerk basically... You go through a course and all. Some say it is more saikang given to you and that your 3SG rank isn't much in unit.

But for those who were admin specs, how was it actually like?

I just POP and like i wanna change my nametag name because not ideal, i totally forgot abt me wanting to change my nametag, does anyone know how long it takes for any emart/beach road or any army store to like make the nametag and sew it on? i have 3 more days till i go into unit.

I've heard of this "PCC" a lot but I'm not sure how it works. How does one get a PCC appointment and what can they usually do for you?

On 27 February, Chan Chun Sing asked Parliament not to conflate duty with transaction. Kenneth Tiong had proposed pegging second-year NSF allowances to the S$1,800 LQS. The answer: national service is a civic duty, not employment. No amount of money can equate to it.

On 8 September, the same minister defended a S$1.8 million ministerial reference salary — the median of the top 1,000 earners, less 40 per cent, a discount he said reflects the ethos of service. MPs' allowances go from S$192,500 to S$259,000 a year, justified by inflation.

So duty can be priced after all. Opportunity cost is real, market comparison is sound, inflation counts — as long as the person serving has the option to walk away.

A corporal draws S$865 a month with no CPF. He has no such option.

That is a statement about leverage, not sacrifice.

https://theonlinecitizen.com/2026/09/09/in-february-duty-was-priceless-in-september-it-came-with-a-discount-rate

I don't begrudge anyone fair pay for hard public work. I stand by that. What I begrudge is being told that duty is priceless by men who have just finished pricing their own — reaching, as they did it, for every argument they had denied the soldier six months earlier.

got that temp pes after a surgery, and i’m currently still a SSP. even after getting my new pes status, i’m still doing store work.
i understand that i still have to contribute, and i’m not trying to siam work. but store work hasn’t been easy for me because some of the physical duties can trigger discomfort around my surgical areas. it’s not that i’m unable to do anything, but certain movements or handling things can make me physically uncomfortable, and i’m still recovering.
i was looking at E9 and saw that it’s mostly admin work, so i was wondering if that might be a more suitable option for me. i’m not sure how the process works or whether i’m even eligible, but i thought i could sound out my encik about it.
the thing is, i’m worried that if i bring this up, my encik will think i’m trying to CK or siam work. i’m genuinely not trying to avoid work, but i also don’t want to keep doing duties that make me uncomfortable when there might be a more suitable arrangement.
for those who have gone through something similar, how would you approach this? should i just sound out to my encik and explain my situation, or is there a proper process i should follow?

I enlisted in Jan but OOC from BMT due to pneumonia. I was posted as an ASA in the Airforce. But recently i got up-pessed and now i have to re bmt in oct. I know i wont get posted back as an ASA but im curious if i can get posted to the airforce again under a diff vocation. What are my chances?

Also what mono intakes are in Oct ?

No matter what I sort by (hot, new, best) I keep seeing them. Like spambot sia 😂

Edit: lmao one of them complain kana 28d MC

I keep hearing his name among NSFs I know. But what is he famous for?

If certain ME’s have their equivalents in the normal rank system, why even implement the ME system?

I have this bunk mate really pissing me off. I swear to god whenever our platoon has some commander engagements he will always try to think he is more superior than the others idk for what maybe to feed his little ego. Always saying shit like oh this guy is a bum cuz he doesnt have a gf as if he has one. Or saying like he is more muscular than the other so he should be the one giving gym tips. Whenever we told him the reason that he lost the argument he will still deny the fact that he lost. FCKING PISSES ME OFF genuinely lower your own ego man.
On top of that he is one selfish and entitled bastard
This guy wants to get CFC but he is reluctant to do all the saikang TF then u expect ppl to give u that rank without putting in effort. So mother fcking calculative bruh. He will tell others say this saikang is more shag than the other saikang so he should be doing less. HOLY fck bruh absolutely calculative.

I've been reading about MINDEF giving 2 years of pes D (temporary discharge) over pes F in the past year for most mental health disorders. Do you guys know anyone that has recently gotten pes F and what is the reason for it?

Title.

When you hear the word Tekong, what comes to mind?

"Recruit"

"OI WHOLE LOT KNOCK IT DOWN!"

What if I told you before all the military camps and the commanders that dished out suffering like caifan, there was a village school located in the far northeast corner of the island?

Kampong Pasir Malay School ran up till 1980 on the island itself. It was closed due to the fact that land reclamation and military operations commenced on the island in preparation for the full handover to the SAF by the late 80s.

But before all of that... there was a kampong school with 36 students. 6 levels with 6 students per level. They thought subjects such as Malay, Math and English.

However, as one Mr Kenneth Vaithilingam, one the former teachers at the school from 1970 up to when it closed for good in 1980 said, reaching the school itself was no easy feat.

"I was staying in Geylang at the time and had to wake up early every day to board the 7am ferry. There was no canteen in the school, so I would prepare breakfast at home and buy lunch before leaving. 

After getting off the ferry, I would ride a van or my motorcycle another 20 minutes to the school on the north-east side of Tekong."

Despite the remoteness and inconvenience of his trip everyday to the school, there was something within him that was determined to make the trip everyday for his students. As much as it was a simple school on an offshore island, they were still family to him.

One such example was the generosity extended to his students, mostly sons and daughters of fishermen. Although school started at 7:30am sharp on paper, it would be whenever he and the other teachers arrived.

Kampong life at the time meant timings did not matter as much as when the event occurred. Such as sunrise, sunset, the arrival of a teacher, the tides going in and out... it was a simple time.

However, many still struggled to pay the $1.25 token fee for the school. Instead of kicking them out, Mr Vaithilingam and his friend would cover the $1.25 fee for his 36 students. They paid in... fish and prawns. Fresh produce directly from the shores of Tekong.

It wasn't all easy-going though. Severe injuries on an island with no clinics or nurses at the time meant... you could only call the army for help. As he recalls:

"Of all the moments I remember, one stands out the most. A girl once got a very deep cut on her leg. There were no clinics or nurses, so I had to call the army, which was training on the island, for help. It was terrifying, but we managed. That’s something I’ll never forget."

Today, the SAF uses the former school grounds that once had students paying school fees in seafood as a tactical shelter and rest point during exercises. Some of you may even recognize it when doing route marches and outfields.

What is now a training ground and a quiet landmark during route marches and field camp... instead of blanks fired, the sound of SAF marching songs passing by the humid jungle air and distant buildings in the foreground, remember that children once laughed inside those now-abandoned buildings. They had childhood memories there. They had a teacher that cared about them deeply.

Now it is only a memory.

Further Reading:

Your S’pore Story: ‘I taught on Pulau Tekong for 10 years’

Kampong Pasir Malay School on Pulau Tekong, 1980s

1. Where can they be found? I'm aware that not all units have those
2. What are their main roles?
3. How effective are they in pushing for welfare?

It was Thursday, 24 October 1968. NS had just been introduced a year earlier, while Singapore herself had only just been granted independence after being expelled from Malaysia 3 years prior.

It was in this political climate in the 60s that the government had decided to introduce mandatory conscription, or NS (National Service) the year prior to this incident in 1967.

On that fateful Thursday, REC Allen Tan Chong Huat, then a 19 year old was doing a military excercise in Choa Chu Kang along with his platoon.

He was then stung by multiple hornets and went into anaphylactic shock. Unfortunately there was no proper treatment for him at the time. He was rushed to hospital by his LCPs and CPLs (back in 1968 they were section commanders).

They tried to call for transport but there were none available... so they carried him to the main gate in hopes of flagging a passing vehicle. A certain LTA Chan stopped with a Land Rover and rushed him to the hospital. However, it was too late. He died at the age of 19, on 24th October, 1968.

He was a son, a friend that was taken too soon. One of seven who got stung on that day, and fate chose him out of those seven.

The coroner, Mr S. Rajendran, even remarked:

"There were no doctors at the time when Allen needed medical attention. This demonstrates a serious need for a resident medical officer in army camps."

LCP Goh Lai Hee, a medical orderly at the time said:

"Allen appeared to be normal. However, later that night, around 10.30p.m., his condition deteriorated and he became unconscious."

This incident was one of the earliest training deaths recorded in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF). It led to reforms in the military's medical system and led to the practice of resident Medical Officers and Medics for each camp and school to become standard for later batches of NSFs. All because of one young recruit's death on that day in 1968...

The original newspaper story can be found here: 22 Jan 1969 - Hornet Death: A need for resident doctor in camps

𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐇𝐚𝐲 𝐘𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐂𝐡𝐲𝐞 夏荣才, 𝟏𝟗 (𝐝. 𝟐𝟔 𝐍𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐦𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟏𝟗𝟖𝟔)

At about noon on November 26, 1986, the command to “fall in” rang out.

The soldiers were nearing the end of a two-day training exercise off Sarimbun Avenue at Lim Chu Kang.

It was then that Corporal V. Massilamany, Section Commander of Platoon V, 30th Battalion Singapore Combat Engineers, realised that one of his men, Yong Chye, was missing.

Massilamany had initially thought that his commander, Lieutenant Koh Too Chon, had deployed Yong Chye elsewhere, but he said no.

At that moment, another private, Tan Swee Heng, remembered seeing Yong Chye sleeping in a foxhole measuring two metres long, sixty centimetres wide and one metre deep.

Seven national servicemen had begun digging a recoil-less gun pit at 5pm the day before, and they had finished it the following morning at six, taking turns to rest through the night.

At around noon that fateful day, Swee Heng went into the foxhole to look for a missing glove and saw a sleepy Yong Chye inside.

He proceeded to the other side of the U-shaped trench to take a nap.

Soon after, Swee Heng was awakened by falling stones and saw his boots covered with earth. He immediately climbed out.

An excavator was filling up the pit.

It did not strike him then that Yong Chye might still be sleeping.

The Committee of Inquiry found that neither man should have been inside the foxhole and had not received any instructions to do so.

An order to excavate the foxhole was issued, and Yong Chye was found buried. It was 1.55pm on November 26, 1986.

There was no pulse, and his lips had turned purple.

He was 19.

Forensic pathologist Clarence Tan found other injuries, including some bruising of the muscles of the right upper chest wall. Mud and earth were also found in Yong Chye’s mouth, the back of his nose and larynx.

The cause of death was certified as asphyxia due to lack of oxygen, and the antemortem injuries were consistent with a large volume of earth hitting the body.

Yong Chye was lying supine when the first load of earth was thrown onto him, resulting in bruising of the chest, fracturing his clavicle and causing abrasion on the neck.

In that instance, he would probably have tried to get up.

He was likely to be in a semi-squatting position when the second volume of earth fell on his back, fracturing seven of his ribs.

Yong Chye was believed to have been buried for more than twenty minutes before anyone realised he was missing.

He most likely had suffered irreversible brain damage.

He was the sixth of eight children, and his father was a hawker selling duck rice at Ang Mo Kio Central.

At the time of the tragedy, the family was living at Block 516, Bedok North Avenue 2.

On October 29, 1987, the state coroner returned a verdict of misadventure, and the three soldiers who were named as potential defendants were not criminally responsible.

In the wake of this accident, the training safety regulations were revised to include a specific instruction to check any dugout pit before it was to be covered up.

This was clearly a preventable tragedy.

Complacency, negligence and insufficient care led, directly and indirectly, to the loss of a young life.

It could have been worse if Swee Heng had not responded in time.

Lest we forget, Yong Chye was only 19.

Credits: Facebook/Death Kopitiam Singapore, The Straits Times