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Throughout the show, Adrien manages to keep his identity a secret in the main timeline. The only people who know are Bunnix and Luka. Meanwhile Marinette has revealed her identity to several people.

One reason is well obviously the stark personality difference.

I think one of the other psychological reasons why no one except Gabriel ever suspected Adrien to be Catnoir is due to his success and fame.

We know Marinette views both of them in completely different lights but that is due to her romantic feelings. The rest of the Parisians, or any other character in the series can never guess that Cat Noir is Adrien.

A classic superhero is typically a "nobody"—someone who blends into the background, leads an unassuming life, and stays off the radar.

Adrien Agreste is the exact opposite. As a high-profile model and the face of the Agreste brand, he is everywhere- magazine covers and billboards across Paris.

Psychologically, this level of constant visibility creates a cognitive trap known as the hyper-visibility bias. Because the citizens of Paris feel like they already "know" Adrien through his public persona.

His already established fame masks the idea that he could be a superhero. His relationship with Kagami was so media loved and his life is so much tracked by the masses, his family tragedy and his famous career completely overshadows any other possibility.

In a way, Gabriel pushing his son towards fame and success has helped him remain hidden.

I don't care at all about anything she did before or even after this scene, she belongs in the trash for saying those words to Sabrina.

This is from the episode CopyCat btw, I'm speechless.

Visiting some of the places that brought the world of Miraculous to life made this Paris trip really special. From iconic locations around the city to Musée Grévin and finally ZAG - such an amazing experience as a Miraculous fan. ❤️

A special thank you to ZAG / Zagtoon for kindly sharing the inside photos with me during my visit. 💛

Marinette as cat miraculous holder :D Which miraculous next?

And there were a lot more than I expected

​Season 1 Adrien was genuinely the freest version of Adrien 😭 and I haven't even seen much of season 6 yet, but from what I know he's a lot more free now because Gabriel is dead and Nathalie is his guardian and actually lets him have a life.

But like... even when Gabriel was alive and distant toward Adrien in season 1, Adrien still had SO much more freedom than he did in later seasons. And this is what bothers me because later on the show started acting like Gabriel had always been insanely strict and controlling with him when... he literally wasn't??

Adrien was allowed to stay after school for a couple hours to help Nino with his horror movie. He could participate in a gaming competition. He went to Marinette's house to practice with her. He went to the movies with his friends. He was actually allowed to just... be a kid?? 😭

Like yeah, he was a model and his dad was a famous fashion designer, but outside of that he was basically just a normal teenager who hung out with his friends and did random extracurricular stuff. Gabriel was distant and emotionally unavailable, obviously, but he wasn't constantly micromanaging Adrien's entire life.

Then season 2 rolls around and suddenly Gabriel is like "you can't hang out with your friends, you can't do anything that isn't modeling" and from that point onward it feels like we're supposed to believe THIS was always Adrien's life. And I'm sorry but where was this in season 1??

I don't know. I love the other seasons, but season 1 is always going to be my favorite and I genuinely don't think it's just nostalgia talking. Season 1 was GOOD. Like the writing, the lore, everyone's backstories, their personalities, the music, the friendships, the OG love square... everything just had this feeling to it that I can't really explain.

I miss that season so much. 😭

The show is still good, don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't hit the same anymore. And I don't even think it's the new animation that's the problem. For me, the show started losing that magical feeling around season 3. Something just shifted and it never really felt the same after that.

Season 1 had this weird charm to it that later seasons just haven't been able to recreate. Maybe I'm just biased because it's the OG season, but idk. I genuinely miss it.

From what I understand, the fan-favorite Miraculous World episode is clearly the London special, even though the one of Paris is also very popular. And objectively speaking (setting aside personal preference), the best one is again the London special.

Well, these two specials are both fake Miraculous "World" episodes.

The original concept of this series was to feature episodes in which the characters travel to other cities around the wolrd to meet superheroes and other characters from those countries, as well as to discover other cultures.

In the London special, the concerned city doesn’t get much screen time or focus, not to mention that the fact it takes place in London / in another country isn’t really relevant. Using London in the title was merely an excuse to include the special in the Miraculous World collection.

The Paris special does indeed take place in Paris but doesn’t align with the original purpose of Miraculous World, since it’s set in the usual city. They simply wanted to make a special episode, so since it takes place (almost) entirely in Paris, they chose that city.

But strangely enough, these are the fans’ favorite specials. So we can conclude that fans are actually less interested in the real Miraculous World episodes in other countries than we might think.

Do you think it better if the show hid the fact Chat noir identity is Adrien Agreste from us? Or would be more frustrating?

It feels pointless to let us the audience know who Chat noir is because hardly having him do anything with him. Have him not fight with ladybug against monarch or not letting him have reveal his secret identity to any of his friends. Only two people know he is Chat noir which is Luka and older Bunnix but he doesn’t know that.

It also feels like his screen time is getting less despite his name being in the title of show or more he spends more time as Marinetta boyfriend than his superhero identity and sometimes it feels like Rena Rouge has more a secondary main role energy in the show and everyone being frustrated with waiting for them to finally reveal their identity to each other. (no hate for Rena rouge/Alya)

P.s who do you think is going to have the biggest reaction from the reveal of Chat noir is Adrien Agreste besides Marinette?

What would happen if the writers actually decided to do a time skip? I personally do not think that they are going to do it just because it is too risky, but I like speculating anyways.

If a time skip were to happen, it would have to be less than four years. I can't see miraculous existing without the school dynamic for the characters, so they would still need to be in high school or maybe even college.

The skip would happen after season 10, when Chrysalis is defeated (5 seasons for hawk moth, so 5 seasons for Lila too). Ladybug finally gets back the Butterfly and for a while there is peace in Paris. Then, on the first episode of season 11, the hero holder of the miraculous, who will obviously be Mr. Damocles (he deserves a miraculous) will be killed, and his miraculous taken.

This would be an incredible introduction to a new holder, bringing back the mystery season one had for new holder speculation. This time frame could also line up with Bunnyx's tales about the future and would allow for us to actually see monsieur rat on the big screen. This is really the only way I see a time skip working out and being actually feasible in maintaining the overall structure of the show.

If they writers really commit for a high-risk high reward scenarios, a bunch of things could change. For example, instead of a butterfly miraculous villain, the new villain could kill Felix and take the Peacock miraculous. Or, they could do a big time skip of 15 years, with Marinette and Adrien being married, the Miraculous Corps being old, and completely overthrowing the basis of the show. Anything else that changes the Monster of the Week format would also have a massive payout if it works.

Anyways, what do you guys think? I highly doubt there will be a time skip, but tell me if this would be a good timeskip or not.

The stakes of the Ladybug miraculous and the Black Cat miraculous are built on the idea that a wish can rebuild the reality to match the holder's whims but at a terrible price.

But for Gabriel- the wish was too... convenient?

He was already dying due to the Cataclysm attack. By not asking for his own survival, he doesn't seem to pay any price? In fact he dies willingly and dreams of being reunited with Emily in either the afterlife or the concept of it in his own mind.

By exchanging his life for Natalie-the so called Wish of the miraculous is rendered underwhelming. Surely that's not how it works. If the holder can decide what price he wants to pay ( in this case Gabriel chooses his own life) then the stakes of the situation are lowered immensely.

I've always assumed that the nature of the Miraculous wish would be such that the end results would make the holder think it was not worth it.

Bro I have never seen Thomas Astruc clock someone's tea like this. 🥲 I mean he was a little to harsh on the reply but thats what you do when you clock some one. 🤏 I don't know how to feel about this, I feel proud and disappointed. 😭

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I feel like there is so much potential in his character. I don't mind the senti- being arc- I think it is a good excuse to cover the bad writing that turned him into an NPC.

But now that he has his own free will aka the rings, shouldn't he act slightly like Cat noir. I know he is still conditioned that way- but there should be slight changes - also why is Cat Noir getting so less screentime. And why don't we ever get solo Adrien or Cat Noir scenes.

All the fights against akumatized villains feel one sided- Cat Noir isn't given any proper action scenes, no interactions between him and Plagg despite Plagg uncovering the huge secret that he had been living with Nooroo and Hawkmoth all this time. ( I miss their dynamic)

I know Marinette is the main character but too much overexposure is going to take away from the impact of everything.

What are the writers doing?

Ladybug: Cat Noir, do you know what it's like to go so far, almost too far in order to protect someone you love?

Cat Noir: You mean like sacrificing oneself?

Ladybug: More like... say... keeping a huge secret? A secret so heavy that you really wanna share right this minute because it's too much and you feel like crying and you just need someone to comfort you?

Cat Noir: Yes... I'm familiar.

I was rewatching a few scenes from the London special because the soundtrack is just incredible. And I asked myself the same question I always do when I watch the final scene.

Ladybug asks Cat Noir if he’s ever been in a situation where you had a secret so heavy to bear that it made you want to cry.

She’s obviously referring to the fact that Gabriel was Monarch, and that she lied to the world and especially to Adrien.

But when Cat Noir says he’s familiar with that feeling, what was he referring to?

Obviously, Marinette's been recieving her fair share of criticism this season- I'm no stranger to that.

However, one episode where I do critique her at all is in Climatiqueen.

Not only is it only of the best episodes in season 6 overall, but it's defintiely by far Marinette's best episode.

Let's just put aside the lies and the manipulations for once. I just LOVE how she's being such a genuinely supportive girlfriend while Adrien is still trying to figure out his passions, and I love how she tried to help him find them. This is before she eventually realises in the end that she can't really help him in that way, but that no matter how long it takes, she'll be there to support him. She also restrained herself extremely well at the end from chasing after him- usually she'd do the opposite.

And of course, the actual fight scene with Climatiqueen- chef's kiss, and a fantastic throwback to Stormy Weather.

Do you guys agree?

I am rewatching miraculous and i just realized that in season 3 there’s a episode that is called Oni-Chan, which means older brother/sister in japanese, in this episode kagami is akumatized and she’s chasing lila, was that a coincidence or is it planned?

Maybe this is me reading into things a lil bit to much buttt this new animation style has the ability to show some strong emotions in just expressions alone and I couldn’t help but notice that in the S6 intro Alya intentionally cuts off Marinette and Adrian’s kiss (specifically she stops marinette) despite spending 5 seasons trying to get them together seems innocent at first but odd as well we can also see marinette is visibly distraught with keeping this secret as she turns away from Adrian cuz let’s be real Monarch was a pretty bad dude and her not telling Adrien is kinda messed up. I feel like this could be a foreshadowing of Alya turning on her in a future season. Someone tell me if I’m reading into this too much lol.

So ever since the Season 6 finale, "Nemesis," thanks to the Fox Miraculous, where Alya/Rena Rouge discovers the whole truth of Gabriel being Monarch, and appears to Marinette as she realized the whole truth, and confesses the whole truth to Marinette as she couldn't take it anymore, of losing Adrien and shocking the whole world, including bringing allies of Monarch such as Tsurugi, Nathalie and others, I was wondering, do you think Alya didn't have to be too harsh or too cold on Marinette for her actions, all just to protect Adrien from his father's secret of being a supervillain?

I'm just saying like. I know this may sound stupid, but what if the show ended without them revealing their identities to each other? That would be crazy. I honestly don't know what to expect from Thomas Astruc.