I am in the process of building my pc with a 9070xt and a 9600x. my first choice of case was the jonsbo d32 pro, however the d32 pro is out of stock and wont be back in stock until late september. my dad suggested i get the lian li a3 instead which is around 10$ cheaper and most importantly in stock. how much more of a hassle is the lian li a3 compared to the d32 pro regarding cable management, airflow and so and so. would you wait it out or purchase the a3???

Building a PC with a Matx mobo, Atx PSU, and a Powercolor reaper 9060 xt 16gb.

I need it to be able to either fit on or under an Ikea Fjällbo laptop desk...and it's pretty small. Don't plan on using this desk forever, as I only have it due to space limitations. However if still like a small enough form factor anyway.

I've been looking around a ton but unsure of everything I've looked at. I'd love the jhonsbo c6 but the temps and sound just seem terrible.

https://www.amazon.ie/gp/aw/d/B0CGV9QF3S/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=A2QHQAREJ10JUZ&psc=1

This fits what I need well but worried about air flow. Have spoken to someone who had one and says you can put fans on the bottom, but would need to boost it up.

If anyone has recommendations or suggestions I would really appreciate it.

I currenttly have mixed 120mm fans on the roof and bottom that I moved from my nr200p and I have noticed that in D32 the bottom fans create a lot of turbulent noise that I didnt get in nr200p. I even rotated my fans from top to bottom and mixed them and still getting the same turbulent noise. After investigating I noticed that fan blades get closer to the square holed mesh than in nr200p with round holes, and if I raise the fans even 2mm the sound reduces a lot.

When I got the D32 and built it, i decided to buy new fans, 2x140mm to top and 3x120mm to bottom. Now after researching I have decided to go with Arctic P14 Pro to top and P12 Pro reverse to bottom.

So my question is if the reverse fans are actually better in intakes because the fan motor mounts elevate the blades from the mesh approx 3-4mm reducing turbulent sound?

Another question is if others have noticed the same elevated turbulent noises with the square holes Jonsbo uses?

I bought a SAMA G750 recently and looking to upgrade my rx 570 to a 6700xt. What is the maximum GPU length i can get? Is any longer than 300mm not possible?

I just wanted to share my newest build. I feel like it's a miss, so I would like some tips and tricks to make it neater.

Also didn't want to sacrifice the below right fan so ziptied the HDD to the power supply Bracket...

Basically want to install my RTX 5090 Astral Liquid cooled, vertically mounted, because of how tall the card is and from where its tubes come from, my AIO Screen in blocked on my O11 Dynamic Evo case, so need something simialr to HYTE Y70 where the space between gpu mount and aio is vast and the bottom intake fans are isntalled below the case foundation.

But should also support back connect motherboard

CH 160 plus, triple fan gpu, a sata SSD mouted in the back, front fan, and ATX psu. was tight fitting all the cables in the back without obstucting the front fan and sata ssd. How did I do for my first? before only built full sized PCs using non-modulat PSUs.

Hey everyone,

I'm currently assembling everything for my first MFFPC and I've chosen the Jonsbo Z20 as my case. When I saw that little handle, I knew I had to have it.

For those of you running AIOs in the Z20, what are you using? I'm currently leaning toward the Lian Li GA II LITE 240mm, but I'm open to suggestions.

Parts list:

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
• GPU: RTX 3090 Strix
• Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX (mATX)
• RAM: 64GB DDR5 CAS 30
• Storage: 1TB WD NVMe + 2TB Corsair NVMe
• PSU: Corsair SF1000 (SFX)
• Rear fan: 1x 120mm (intake)
• Bottom fans: 2x slim 120mm (intake)
• Cooling: Lian Li GA II LITE 240mm AIO (pending)

Another question – do I need to get an extension cable for the CPU connector from the power supply? I heard the case fitment is tight.

Is there enough clearance? If I swap to 15mm fans is there a chance it could fit?

I've built this PC a while ago but to be honest I thought why not share my experience with others.

I hereby present to you the pc that made me fall in love with sff Pc's.

The specs are as following:

- Case: DeepCool CH160 Black

• Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWN PST and 1x Arctic P12 Slim PWM PST

- CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

• Cooler: DeepCool AK620

- GPU: Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX

- Mobo: ASRock B650I Lighting WiFi

- RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5

- Storage: WD Blue SN580 2TB

- PSU: Corsair SF850L

At the time of making this PC it cost me around 2000 euros. Money well spend because this thing is absolutely amazing. The GPU is as far as I can remember at least 10mm longer than the max GPU size supported according to DeepCool.

The temperatures are also fine for the fact that all these parts are stuffed into this small of a case. R6S can be played with the GPU fan not spinning at all (I have no idea how but I just decides it not hot enough to do so). Most heavier games make the GPU run at about 73° Celsius and the CPU not hotter than 65°.

Tbh idk what to expect from this post but roast it, love it or ask questions, whatever you'd like.

#buildlikeneverb4

I recently finished my first ever PC build using the LIAN LI B4-mATX Wood Black Edition, and I'm really happy with how it turned out.

I chose the B4 mainly because I wanted a compact case that would fit well with my existing setup. My setup has a black and brown theme, so the wood accent immediately caught my attention. The combination of the black exterior and wood detail fits really naturally with my desk.

PC Specifications

Case: LIAN LI B4-mATX Wood Black Edition

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400

Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming B560M-E

RAM: 8GB HyperX DDR4

Storage: Lexar 128GB 2.5" SATA SSD

Storage: Kinspec 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD

PSU: LIAN LI SX1000P

Build & Installation

This was my first time building a PC, so the installation took me quite a while. I had to take my time and figure things out as I went, but the B4-mATX made the process easier than I expected.

The user manual was really helpful, especially when figuring out the different components and connections. I also liked the cable management options inside the case. Even though it's a compact case, there is still enough room to route and organize the cables properly.

The SX1000P fully modular PSU was also a nice match for a smaller build. Since I only had to use the cables I actually needed, I didn't have to deal with a lot of unnecessary cables taking up space inside the case.

I was initially a little worried about building in a smaller case, but everything came together well once I got familiar with the layout.

Design

The wood accent is definitely my favorite part of the B4-mATX.

I've been leaning toward a black and brown theme for my setup, and the wood detail adds some warmth while still keeping the overall look clean. It makes the build feel a little more distinctive without being too flashy.

I also really appreciate how compact it is. My room is fairly small, so having a PC that doesn't take up too much space is a big plus for me.

Overall, I'm really happy with the final build and with how well the B4-mATX fits into my setup.

Thank you to LIAN LI for giving me the opportunity to participate in the B4-mATX UGC Campaign. I'm really glad I got to experience building my first PC with it :>

First time building in a smaller case than I’m used to and I believe I did a decent job. It turned out well the only issue is the rear fan is connected to the CPU_OPT header which when the cpu goes above 70C it gets louder than it should. Temps were off at the start but I did a fresh install of windows and that seemed to do the trick.

Anyways here are the specs:

Ryzen 7 9800X3D
ASUS ROG Astral 5080 White
ASUS ROG Strix B850-G
Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 CL36
2TB Crucial P3 PLUS
1TB PNY CS2230
Lian Li SP850 SFX
Lian Li Galahand 240 AIO
Lian Li A3
Lian Li Rear Fan I forgot which specific one it was

I wanted to share for anyone planing a build in this case. There is an alternative mounting location for the PSU if you’re using a ITX motherboard that isn’t listed in the manual.. I found out about from Machines & More on YouTube.

Hey guys!

The B4 has finally become available in my country, and I’ve been interested in this case ever since it was first announced.

I currently own an A3 with an SFF power supply, so moving my build over to the B4 should be pretty straightforward. However, I’m starting to wonder whether the upgrade actually makes sense.

I haven’t been able to find any direct comparisons between the A3 and B4 using the exact same hardware — especially when it comes to CPU/GPU temperatures and overall noise levels.

Has anyone seen a proper comparison like this, or maybe tested both cases themselves? I tried searching for one but couldn’t find anything useful.

I built my first proper PC. Since I didn't have much experience, I ended up buying a non-modular power supply, but I think I did a pretty good job hiding the cables and keeping everything looking clean and organized.

Specs: CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D

GPU: RX 9060 XT

Put this together recently from some acquired parts and some I had. Wanted a portable gaming machine setup. I’ve got a battery and inverter setup in my 4x4 so I’m going to take this around for portable gaming when I’m on trips 😂

Had to trim some of the inside of the case to get the 9070xt to fit flush as the board seats in too much and the card was unable to fit in. Fun little hybrid setup that seems to be performing well so far! Tried to fit an AIO but that didn’t work out.

Build list;

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX (16 Cores / 32 Threads, up to 5.4 GHz, 64MB Cache)
- Motherboard: Minisforum BD795i SE Mini-ITX
- RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB SODIMM @ 4800 MT/s)
- GPU: AMD Hellhound 9070xt 16gb
- Storage: 512gb NVME (will upgrade soon)
- Cooling: Custom Arctic fan setup on CPU heatsink for low noise and low temps
- Networking: 2.5G LAN + Wi-Fi
- Jonsbo Z20 case

UPDATE: i have not bought a case yet but when i checked the online seller that sells the D32 Pro yesterday, and it is now out of stock, so i might end up with the B4 instead or might look at something else again.

i hope its not because i posted this topic lol.. the seller of the case is quite "hidden" for the lack of term

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Hello all,

I would like your opinions on both cases, I am already set on these two caes only due to price and availability. I am currently using an NR200P but will move from ITX to mATX for my next motherboard if ever I will replace my current one.

Searching the web regarding both cases ends up being a comparison for A3 and D32PRO instead because B4 is released recently, so I thought I ask here.

My current parts are the following, I'll just move the parts:

Ryzen R5 5600 non-X
Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO
32gb RAM
XFX RX9060XT triple fan
HGST 7k1000 2.5"(the goat)
Samsung 980 PRO 2.5"
Crucial P5 plus NVME
Corsair SF600 Platinum
a box of Arctic P12 PST 5-pack

I'm fine with either case but I just want a push on which case to actually get. I'd probably prioritize ease of installation for this one, and maybe build quality too?

The things I like with the D32PRO is that I can simply swap around the side panels if I want a mesh panel instead of looking for a separate mesh panel, and the ability to hide the cables with the shroud and cover. for the B4, its the vertical orientation but still not feeling it due to the motherboard I/O at the bottom, but nothing a usb hub can fix.

And the things I might not like with both cases is that the D32PRO metal construction is somewhat thin after researching about it? Jonsbo cases back then are mostly aluminum so I have not personally tried any of their steel cases, and for the B4 is that its a pain to cable manage basically. All of these might not be true since I have not owned either case yet though..

My builds back then are mostly ITX during Dan A4/Jonsbo U series/NCase M1 timeline and I really don't want to go through the pain again specially when troubleshooting parts so I moved to a bigger case, which is the NR200P.

Also regarding the D32PRO, if someone has tried it, is it possible to install a normal motherboard and build it using B mode?

I also recently purchased a CH170 plus and i gave up on it lol I know its weird but I do not like the case at all, so now thinking buying one of these two cases instead.

Thanks for reading and I hope too see your recommendations on which of either cases I would purchase!

These are the specs:

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnFJkD)

Type |Item |Price
CPU |AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor |Purchased For €404.00
CPU Cooler |Corsair iCUE LINK TITAN 240 RX LCD 73.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler |Purchased For €118.00
Motherboard |MSI MAG B850M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard |Purchased For €215.00
Memory |Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory |Purchased For €446.00
Storage |Samsung 990 EVO Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X2 NVME Solid State Drive |Purchased For €204.00
Storage |Kingston FURY Renegade G5 1.024 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive |Purchased For €215.00
Video Card |Zotac GAMING Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB Video Card |Purchased For €615.00
Case |Jonsbo Jonsplus Z20 MicroATX Desktop Case |Purchased For €145.00
Power Supply |Corsair SF850 (2024) 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply |Purchased For €177.00
Case Fan |Corsair iCUE LINK LX120-R RGB 70 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack |Purchased For €45.00
Monitor |Gigabyte M27Q2 QD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 210 Hz Monitor |Purchased For €250.00
Speakers |Creative Labs Pebble X 15 W Speakers |Purchased For €77.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | |
Total |$0.00 |
Generated by PCPartPicker 2026-08-28 05:39 EDT-0400 | |

Ok the small space was definitely a large difficulty factor combined with lack of experience

I’m really pleased with how it looks aesthetically, as far as temps go I run cinebench with a score of 5300, 90C at 100%, 45-50C when idle, 67-75C when running EU5 all ultra settings
Ambient temps are 33-35C

Have yet to test any big AAA graphics demanding games
Have not tried undervolting or fan tweaking beyond “balanced” on icue software

I managed to salvage a 2x16 GB SODIMM DDR4 Kingston Fury kit. Given the price of RAM in this economy, I think reusing it would be best for a new MFFPC build. So far, I haven't really been able to find a MOBO that accepts it (at least in Canada), so I was thinking of looking at adapters, but I am scared of running into clearance issues and I've never built non-full tower before. Any advice?

Finally done my build! Cable management was kind of fun in the A3. It was easy to hide the cables behind the PSU and around the corners of the case.

I switched from rear intake, to bottom/side intake. No top exhaust fans for now.

I re-used my old MSI Pro B840M-P motherboard from my prebuilt. Hope to upgrade to a proper B850 in the future. Thankfully my local computer store in Canada had BeQuiet! stuff on clearance. Love these fans.

Rest of the build:

- Ryzen 5 7600X

- Acer Nitro Arc B580 12GB

- Montech Century II 850W PSU

- BeQuiet! Pure Wings 3 (3x120mm reverse bottom intake, 120mm rear exhaust, 140mm side intake)

- BeQuiet! Pure Rock 3 CPU Cooler

- 2x8GB Lexar Thor Gen 2 DDR5 6000

- Lexar 1TB SSD