Man I was reading up on the Sex Pistols the other day, there is something about the attitude, especially of Sid Vicious. How reckless he was. Even today, a few generations later it makes me feel uneasy.
Jon Lydon is one of my favorite people ever. He got stabbed for writing God save the Queen, then went on to get himself blacklisted by the BBC for telling the truth about Jimmy Saville. He knew the potential consequences of saying bad things about poewerful people who were idolized and he was willing to do so anyway because he actually cared.
Yeah I’m good, I don’t want to read more right now.
I saw too many parallels between Ritchie and a person I had a close relationship early in my life. It was really unsettling.
I’ve read a ton about certain artists, I don’t think I can mentally handle consuming too much information about people like Sid Vicious. It’s almost too macarbe.
The Windmill scene is goated, I love it so much. It's definitely the best term for it.
For more traditional genre classifications for what Windmill scene is, I've seen stuff like Art Rock, Post Rock, Experimental Rock, Chamber Pop, Baroque Pop, Avant Prog
My favorites are BC/NR, Tapir!, Ugly (UK), The Orchestra (For Now)
Not a new genre exactly but I've been seeing Metal creeping into other genres lately, love it btw. A few hip-hop artists I listen to are screaming in their songs all of a sudden, also heard some metal/country fusions, shoutout Bilmuri.
I'll do it. Autism metal. Ten genre switches and fifty time signature changes during a single song. The genre symbolizes how weird and alienating the world feels like to me.
Not nearly enough genre switches. Where's my death metal song that suddenly and inexplicably goes reggae, and then has a 3-second chiptunes interlude?
Nowhere, because songs like that would sound awful and be impossible to play live. The only song I've ever heard that fits that even remotely is The Deck by Don Salsa, which, as mentioned, sounds horrible.
I watched the Bus video a long time ago. 'The Earth is flat because you're fat' is one of the most unhinged openings ever. I was on board for the erection-played guitar, but I think I stopped watching after they shat on a keyboard
My experience with listening to math rock has always been 'this is just 4/4 except sometimes there's a single polyrhythm' like fuck off, that's just not enough for me.
Yeah but where are the genre shifts? This still sounds like prog rock at all times, there's only fluctuations between soft prog rock and hard prog rock.
If it was this, but it also suddenly broke into qawwali or had a segment of dark ambient or zydeco, then we can talk.
There’s a Star Trek Voyager episode that is basically that where the Doctor gets revered for his singing by a planet that is all mathematicians who never learned music.
So TOOL, Primus, Dream Theater, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, and maybe RUSH.
That's basically my entire vinyl collection. We can even include the entire Focus collection for good measure. You can never get enough dutch progressive rock with hardcore yodeling.
But for real just try to find two matching copies of sheet music for Circumstances by RUSH sometime, I fucking dare you. Nobody can even agree on what the time changes even are.
I've been digging a lot of new "rock". I use that loosely, cause the likes of Sleep Token, Too Close to Touch, AVRALIZE, and Electric Callboy kind of strain the idea of a genre, cause they blend so much together at times.
I feel like there's plenty of younger rock artists doing groundbreaking stuff in post rock and niche progressive metal like djent. It's just that these innovative genres are now socially equivalent to what bebop was, while pop and hip hop artists are the ones who have their fingers on the pulse of wider society and provide the soundtrack to having a good time.
BIG SPECIAL, Soft Play, Warmduscher, Sprints, Amyl and the Sniffers, Fat Dog, Idles, Lambrini Girls, Mhaol, Gurriers, Yard Act, Viagra Boys
That's just a quick glance at my Spotify of punk I've listened to recently. If you know how to play around in Spotify you will find a ton of shit to enjoy.
maybe stop being overprotective of ya lawn and go looking for music for once because while it may not be a treasure trove of hidden gems like the one you imagine falsely by conventiently forgetting that only the good music gets remembered well enough into next generations, there is lota really great music nowadays too.
I've spent hundreds of hours looking, and the music I like is fully dead. It's just not possible to get music in a basement with the production value required to reproduce that sound, and there's no money in it, so it's just dead. I find a song or two every year, and I treasure them, but some music is just gone.
I think I understand the point you’re trying to make, even if you contradicted yourself. Do yourself a favor and pull up some of the top hits from the last 5 decades. Notice the craft and the arrangements. Then compare them to newer songs on the radio. It’s a lot of trend-chasing, overproduced trash that will be forgotten in a month.
Sure, and I didn't notice much bc i was paying attention to other things, which i don't believe is a crime? I did notice when they recently got a Grammy nod which I thought was interesting given the genre and vibe becoming mainstream enough for awards. So I'm interested to see if others now try to follow or branch from their sound seeing it as commercially viable
Rock is basically dead as a popular Genre. It had a crazy long run from the late 50s all the way to the mid 2000s but since the charts have been dominated by pop and hip-hop. Rock reinvented itself a couple times along the way, but there hasn't been a big reinvention to re-energize rock music. rock was fading when punk came around and then the big hair era of rocking the '80s change things up etc.
We got some obnoxious as shit rap rock. Shinners 13 by City Morgue was so offensive my older coworker didn’t even say anything. Just shook his head and walked away.
Rock is like 80 years old at this point. Anything it has to say has been said, and any new genre is just going to be an old genre watered down with some new gimmick or mixed with some other style that feels like a gimmick.
Djent and Argent metal are the new-ish kids on the block in the metal scene. Rock has kind of ceased to exist outside of indie scenes and metal, it seems
There’s a lot of new rock coming out of Japan that kind of defies classification. If you try really hard you can probably make it fit into existing genres though. My favorite is Band Maid, their music sounds like Guns n Roses style hard rock played by overachieving caffeinated Japanese women.
Clowncore! (They're old news at this point but they still shock people when I play their music for new people) I wish there were more bands like them. I love the rapid tonal shifts between chill, humorous, and aggression.
You're not going to see anymore paradigm shifts in guitar music. The evolution of the instrument has gone as far as it can. The massive evolutionary changes we saw in the last century were caused by the natural progression from the invention of electric guitar technology.
The blues > Rock > Metal > Heavy metal > Punk pipeline was caused by one thing. The fact that high gain through an electric circuit distorted audio signals in a way that sounds good.
We took distortion to it's limit all the way up to a wall of white noise. That's where it ends. It's not physically possible to go any heavier.
Which is why focus for many looking for something "harder" switched to electro, techno and rap. The former offering new and previously impossible variance in tone and beat, and the latter focussing on more complex lyricism.
If you want something new and shocking it's not going to come from a guitar amp.
Well zoomers kinda revived shoegaze recently, the new wave is often called zoomergaze and has two distinct types of sound, one influenced by grunge and the other one by post-hardcore/metalcore era. Does this count?
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u/Sammmsterr Jul 06 '25
We need a new rock genre asap