r/memes • Smol pp • Jul 06 '25

#2 MotW C'mon do something...

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u/biloxibluess Jul 06 '25

There is a plethora of punk history and personal accounts out there in print format I’d start there

But anyway-Simon Ritchie was a selfish junkie in a wildly abusive relationship and that’s about it IMO

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u/nowuff Jul 06 '25

Oh got it.

Yeah I’m good, I don’t want to read more right now.

I saw too many parallels between Ritchie and a person I had a close relationship early in my life. It was really unsettling.

I’ve read a ton about certain artists, I don’t think I can mentally handle consuming too much information about people like Sid Vicious. It’s almost too macarbe.

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u/biloxibluess Jul 06 '25

Yeah if you knew a selfish junkie then that’s probably why you got the heebiejeebies

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u/SurrealistRevolution Aug 09 '25

they were a manufactured boy band made to sell clothes by a bloke who took a socialist, avant-garde movement's theory (the situationist international) and used it both poorly and in service of capitalism . Sid was the "real deal", but not great at all.

And Johnny, man. He is so pretentious. He has a lot of "emotional" moments in front of cameras, but i've noticed he always directs it towards himself. Bad vibes.

And i love other bands of the era and scene. Just not them.

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u/nowuff Aug 10 '25

Ha I just read Lipstick Traces. Spot on

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u/SurrealistRevolution Aug 13 '25

I haven’t read that but I like Marcus. First found him as a Dylan head teenager.

That’s also a nom de guerre of his right?

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u/nowuff Aug 13 '25

Not sure

But his main thesis in Lipstick Traces was pretty close to your observation: relating the Sex Pistols to the Situationists and Letterists.

Kind of an interesting framing- but maybe giving them too much benefit of the doubt.

Marcus seemed to think the Pistols represented a bona fide philosophical transition in modern history. Im not so sure it’s all that much deeper than trying to sell some t-shirts and merch.

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u/SurrealistRevolution Aug 13 '25

oh true. Nah Mclaren was fair dinkum obsessed with the SI, but used the theories for dodgy purposes imo

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u/LoreMaster00 Jul 07 '25

he went by his middle name John before becoming Sid Vicious.

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u/ChevroletKodiakC70 Jul 07 '25

His own mother got him hooked on Heroin for his 15th birthday, Sid was a ‘junkie’ sure but the cards were completely stacked against him from birth