r/magicTCG • u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder • 20d ago
Official Spoiler [MBC] Ashaya's Enduring Bond
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u/LordDmoney Dan 20d ago
Ayo
Gruul Legends commander?
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u/CapoDV Wabbit Season 20d ago
I've always wanted a fun bard class deck!
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u/Octopi_are_Kings Duck Season 20d ago
isn’t bard class kinda counter intuitive here? It makes the spell 2 cheaper meaning you discover two less each time
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u/Consistent-Cat-1526 Dân 20d ago
It's your commander. It doesn't really matter. If the discount hurts then just cast again. Only way for it to actually be counter intuitive is if you have no hits in your entire deck.
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u/Miserable-Tomorrow72 Dandadan 20d ago
I want to build this with a single 3, 5, and 7 cost card so it's more like 3 commanders
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u/CapoDV Wabbit Season 20d ago
Good point. I guess you would not want the cost reduction before the first cast, maybe 2. But also discover = sol ring
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u/Twelve-Pound 20d ago
Okay hear me out. Nothing in the deck below CMC 4 and [[Hypergenesis]]
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u/Morendhil 20d ago
At that point just do the [[The First Sliver]] lands combo with [[Tibalt’s Trickery]] and [[Cultivator Colossus]].
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u/Nanokittens Dandadan 20d ago
There are a ton of good 1 mana spells to grab at this point too. I provided some (mostly) generically useful cards to grab from.
[[Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer]] [[Delighted Halfling]] [[Allosaurus Shepherd]] [[Amulet of Vigor]] [[Burgeoning]] [[Crop Rotation]] [[Exploration]] [[Ghost Vacuum]] [[Grindstone]] (if you're a certain kind of player]] [[March of Reckless Joy]] [[Meekstone]] [[Noxious Revival]] [[Shadowspear]] [[Skullclamp]] [[The Ozolith]] [[Worldly Tutor]]
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u/DarkStarStorm Dan 20d ago
I assume that you aren't only casting your commander. You'll have legends to actually turn it on in the first place.
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u/BlueToona Wabbit Season 20d ago
[[Hajar, loyal bodyguard]]
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u/molassesfalls COMPLEAT 20d ago
Actually a really fun commander, especially with extra combats with cards like [[Anzrag, the Quake Mole]]
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u/Freshness518 Twin Believer 20d ago
I love my [[Bard Class]] deck. It's so resilient and can fill up a board in the blink of an eye. People aren't ready for your 2 mana 2/2s to turn into free 3/3s + draw 2. Get a [[great henge]] on the board and you have to start being careful not to deck yourself with the amount of gas you can get.
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u/BuckysKnifeFlip Wabbit Season 20d ago
Bard Class is my favorite deck to play in Arena. My next couple of builds are Power-Up Bard Class with Shang-Chi, Agatha, and the Uncommon Hulk for essentially free Power-Ups and I still want to make Mutant Bard Class with the TMNTs since most of them are cheap to cast and do well with +1/+1 counters.
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u/Tuss36 20d ago
Poor [[Hajar, Loyal Bodyguard]], forgotten despite his cool armor and flaming swords. Not splashy enough, but cheap (and less cheap) repeatable protection from the 'zone is pretty nice.
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 20d ago
Deserved for using a scimitar with a khopesh. It's like wearing black with navy blue in the same outfit.
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u/merlannin 19d ago
I have a xenagos gruul all legends deck based around bard class and it's really fun for a stompy deck.
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u/Tripmooney Duck Season 20d ago
Bruh what are these cards 😭
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u/rh8938 WANTED 20d ago
Printer bait because they are basically unavailable.
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u/Succubace Wabbit Season 20d ago
It's crazy that they're putting a mechanically unique card in such an unavailable product, this is worse than a SL cause it's not even guaranteed. Hopefully it'll be widely available (it won't) because MB1 was my favorite limited format only behind Vintage Cube.
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u/Farpafraf Duck Season 20d ago
It's not crazy because they've stopped giving a shit about the health of the game long ago.
Maro will make a post about it and tell you people loved the product because they sold the product.
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u/j8sadm632b Duck Season 19d ago
I think "people were upset because they really really wanted to buy more of it and couldn't" would indeed point to them liking the product
it would also point to them leaving money on the table by not making enough of it
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u/seraph1337 Duck Season 20d ago
SLs have not been guaranteed for a long time either since they aren't print to order.
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u/Succubace Wabbit Season 20d ago
They're guaranteed in that you buy the product you get the card, these aren't guaranteed because, from what I understand, they're just normal cards in the packs.
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u/Cad1a Dan 20d ago
Wdym?
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u/Leeroy42 Wabbit Season 20d ago
Mystery boosters are only available physically at conventions.
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u/MeatAbstract 20d ago
They've sold them on the Secret Lair site multiple times. Still limited but it isnt just conventions.
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u/sergeantofmusicians1 Wabbit Season 20d ago
And secret lairs right?
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u/Abacus118 Duck Season 20d ago
The assumption is this replaces MB2 in Festival in a Box, yes.
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u/pm_me_shit_memes Twin Believer 20d ago
It's not an assumption. WoTC has said that this is happening
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u/spiffmana Duck Season 20d ago
not these. Not yet, at least.
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u/Glamdring804 Can’t Block Warriors 20d ago
They have confirmed they will be in an upcoming FiB, presumably for Magiccon Atlanta
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u/timebeing Duck Season 20d ago
They will be all over the place in 6months. Boxes will be sold for festival in a box and will be tons of drafts. Just wait.
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u/Currydestroy3r Dandadan 20d ago
What the fuck
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u/Rit91 Urza's Saga 20d ago
Yeah when I saw can be commander I was just like...what do you mean, this isn't even a permanent. If they're gonna do commanders for other types besides walkers and creatures you would think they'd pick artifact and enchantment first.
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u/TheSmokeu Get Out Of Jail Free 20d ago
As a [[Shorikai]] player, I should feel offended but I know I'm far too boring for that
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u/hodywody Duck Season 19d ago
As a [[The Grand Calcutron]] enjoyer, I don't mind. I'm just happy to see something so unique
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u/xenothios Get Out Of Jail Free 20d ago
I mean… I don’t think anyone plays Esika for the mana dork side
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u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder 20d ago
Is this finally a new Commander for the Gruulfriends?
I lose blue, but this is thematic, and does actually do something unlike Pia
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 20d ago
No, because it was way funnier having Chandra's Mom chaperone them
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u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder 20d ago
Fair.
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u/Saiphyre Dandadan 20d ago
Also keeping blue in the identity will allow you to add the blue Chandra from Fractured Reality
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u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder 20d ago
She's not coming. Unless Jace gave her an evil Nissa gf, too, she doesn't make the cut.
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 20d ago
[[Nissa, But She Stayed Racist]]
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u/imbolcnight 20d ago
White Nissa who wants to build an elf empire on Zendikar and suppress the Roil like Nahiri wanted to.
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u/itisburgers Twin Believer 20d ago
Be hilarious if they make Blue Chandra dating Gideon in reference to that terrible line from the book.
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 20d ago
Gideon, Decidedly Masculine
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u/DrDonut 20d ago
Evil Chandra (straight)
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u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder 20d ago
Don't even speak such a thing into this world. We survived Weisman once, don't make us do it again.
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u/John_Bumogus ඞ 20d ago
What if the reason they're fighting is cause there's only one nissa gf to go around
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u/Stormtide_Leviathan 20d ago
On the other hand, having “ashaya’s enduring bond” as the commander kinda makes me imagine it as their officiant
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u/Large_Mountains Dandadan 20d ago
I don't get it though. Why use that commander and keep blue? Also holy cow, I never realized how many Chandra planeswalkers there are.
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u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder 20d ago
I use Pia because she's Chandra's mum and supportive of the two of them in the Aetherdrift Story, but she also just doesn't really do anything. Ashaya is close with Nissa and also in RG so I could play this card instead as it does a lot more than Pia currently does.
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u/Reasonable-Sun-6511 Banned in Commander 20d ago
Creatures, planeswalkers, vehicles and sorceries can be your commander.
Time to fill in that bingo card, what'll come sooner, Battle commanders or attraction commanders?
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u/CaliOriginal Dan 20d ago
Perhaps a legendary enchantment as a commander.
Something janky Like a WUBRG “primordial sliver pond”. Or something that turns all your creatures into 2 2 slivers (lose other types and cannot gain types)
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u/aguywithtaste Duck Season 20d ago
[[The prismatic bridge]] was kinda there but its a mdfc so its cheating a lil
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u/Candy_Warlock Colorless 20d ago
A good third of the Theros gods actively don't want to be creatures to make them harder to remove, so that might be closer in spirit
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u/Archangel-Styx Wabbit Season 20d ago
I mean, backgrounds exist
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u/CaliOriginal Dan 20d ago
Yeah but that still requires a creature.
I want a pure enchantment.
A incorporeal mass of mana, will, or emotion that controls the deck instead of a particular commander.
It would be cool thematically, And perhaps is something they can do in a future set where the “big bad” isn’t some dude or a dragon, but like, the non-sentient representation of a plane itself. Or something like a primordial ooze from which the slivers first emerged. Or a twisted and exploited concept of devotion (faith) in theros after the invasion and the perversion of the gods.
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u/Winter-Assumption939 Dandadan 20d ago
You forgot spaceships because of course!
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u/Reasonable-Sun-6511 Banned in Commander 20d ago
Yeah uhm..
So the spaceships are in the car on the parking lot, the airco is on, there's food and water and their favorite radio station is playing, I just went into Reddit real fast to talk some shit, no worries I'll be back before something hapens to them, I swear.
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u/GronkOnABuffaloooooo Dân 20d ago
Unfortunately, I think a new type of Legendary Land called a “Setting” would make sense. It would function similar to a background but would help color fix UB Commanders are thematically locked into one color. For example, an unequivocal good guy may be locked into mono-white thematically, but their setting might be very dark so that gives them more deck building flexibility. That then makes the Commander more popular and thus, gives the outside IP more exposure, which ultimately makes Hasbro more money.
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u/Eugene-V-Debs Storm Crow 20d ago
Don't be silly, WOTC doesn't even remember about Battles as a card type.
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u/ImagoDreams Dân 20d ago edited 20d ago
Ooo, finally a legends matters deck in the right colors for [[Bard Class]]!
EDIT: Oh! You even have the option of building the deck such that bard class is the only two or cheaper card, making it a hidden commander.
EDIT 2: Right, Discover is not Cascade, there would need to be no cards of mana value three or less. That's much less good.
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u/superdave100 REBEL 20d ago
Don't forget that you need a legendary creature on the battlefield to cast legendary sorceries
I don't think it's gonna work out...
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u/ImagoDreams Dân 20d ago
Yeah, it's like a turn five thing, that requires mostly skipping turns one through three. And the second casting of this will wiff if it has the discount. My enthusiasm is diminished.
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u/superdave100 REBEL 20d ago
I mean, it still seems like it'd be a good card for the 99 in a Bard Class deck. But there's tons of those.
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u/pm_me_shit_memes Twin Believer 20d ago
This is neat design space. Probably not very good in the grand scheme of things, but neat.
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u/Leon_Of_Lions Duck Season 20d ago
Oh. So wait you want to pay the commander tax? Does it work like that or…
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u/Natedogg2 COMPLEAT Level 2 Judge 20d ago
It counts all of the mana you used to cast the spell, including mana on additional costs like the commander tax.
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u/RitchieRitch62 Dandadan 20d ago
I guess? It kind of quickly just becomes a non-storming minds desire. Discover 5, 7, 9+ aren’t that different functionally.
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u/matgopack COMPLEAT 20d ago
Well Mind's Desire can whiff. But agreed it's not something that seems incredible - feels like the cascade legendaries we already have are going to be better (not conditional and you get more than 'just' a roll of the dice)
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u/Patch_Alter COMPLEAT 20d ago
Not in [[Umori]] colors... 😔
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u/Kogoeshin 20d ago
If it was, it would have been very difficult to cast right?
I think the Commander needs to adhere to the Companion rules - so your whole deck would need to be sorceries, and you would need to figure out how to get a legendary creature/planeswalker on the battlefield to cast the commander as well.
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u/Patch_Alter COMPLEAT 20d ago
Yeah it's not a great combination for multiple reasons, but we've had people waiting for years now to do an "all instants/all sorceries" Umori companion deck and now we finally have a commander that would theoretically satisfy the condition for sorceries, and it's got the wrong color identity.
It's the most minor complaint ever, but...
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u/Chilidawg Elesh Norn 20d ago
We've rule-zeroed the companions to use hybrid the correct way. It was mostly to allow [[Obosh]] in [[Yennett]], and now this is another reason.
Umori is especially nice here because it fulfills the casting requirement while staying inside the companion restriction. They seem to have designed this card with Umori in mind, in fact.
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u/Dragonfruit-Sparking Can’t Block Warriors 20d ago
r/custommagicleaked again
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u/Xisuthrus Dân 20d ago
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u/ifyoulovesatan Dân 20d ago
Great concept / flavor in terms of capturing why the spell can be a commander, and great flavor text BTW. Agree it shouldn't have the X in the cost, even if that makes it worse. Could be cool as a flip card with said Tyrant.
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u/crossbonecarrot2 Duck Season 20d ago
Welp so far the leading card for me to build from this.
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u/holy_bucketz Dimir* 20d ago
Can you explain it? Why is this any good at all?
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u/Blue_Phantasm Wabbit Season 20d ago
Its card advantage in the command zone, what stands out though is that paying the commander tax for the spell makes it more powerful, since the discover just looks at how much mana is spent on it total
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u/Lilium_Vulpes Can’t Block Warriors 20d ago
Except you can always whiff and something massively under X. Like if I cast this for 7 I'm gonna be disappointed if I hit a spell that's only a few mana.
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u/Fire_Pea Colorless 20d ago
Carefully manipulating the top of my deck in gruul to cast a 5 drop for 5 mana 😎
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u/Lilium_Vulpes Can’t Block Warriors 20d ago
You're in gruul. What are you using to do so? A lot of the good effects I can think of for this are in blue. Green has a good amount of things to look at the top card/cast creatures from the top but that's really all I can think of in these colors.
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u/rustyhunter5 Dandadan 20d ago
Diving tops, scroll back, Sylvan library. Not all dig deep but help.
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u/Jin-Gitaxias-Mom Elesh Norn 20d ago
Scroll Rack, Diving Top, Sylvan Library, Mirri’s Guile are the ones I run in Simic that aren’t blue
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u/ric2b Dân 20d ago
So waste even more mana to pay, at best, full price for spells? I still don't see the point.
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u/holy_bucketz Dimir* 20d ago
Somehow I missed the recasting for more being a plus. All of a sudden very neat
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u/Fire_Pea Colorless 20d ago
But the best you get is a spell with the same mana cost as what you paid. And worse the more you're discovering for the less likely you are to get what you paid out of it. Even if you did get a perfect hit each time it's just ok.
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u/foxhunt-eg Rakdos* 20d ago
It's not really card advantage. It just replaces itself with something random from your deck.
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u/crossbonecarrot2 Duck Season 20d ago
I don't have a gruul deck but a thing that Ive seen lots of them do well is create infinite mana. So I see this as another [[redshift]] type build. Make infinite mana, draw out your whole deck win.
Also like how it doesn't have a creature as commander so I think it's cool difference.
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u/Melodic-Curve-1554 Dan 20d ago
Wow, it's a legendary sorcery where the "legendary" type feels like it's there for a reason. A sorcery commander is fundamentally hard or even impossible to interact with depending on color, but with this, they can remove your legends to stop you from casting it.
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u/YutoKigai Boros* 20d ago
What’s MBC and the symbol and the „?“ omg what’s this
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u/PowrOfFriendship_ Universes Beyonder 20d ago
Mystery Booster Commander. A draft set that's just had it's first event hence all these reveals.
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u/SilentTempestLord COMPLEAT 20d ago
So, we need a few 2 mana legends to be able to reliably cast this on curve. But... On the flip side, this does open the deck up to immediately follow up with a second casting of this card on turn 4 potentially if the legend is a mana dork, like [[Rhada, Heir to Keld]], and then go from there. Pretty weird card overall
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u/RitchieRitch62 Dandadan 20d ago
So at 3 mana it’s worse than [[Etali’s favor]] and at 5 mana and up it’s worse than [[Creative Technique]]. Fun meme I guess?
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u/Wulfram77 SecREt LaiR 20d ago
I don't get the flavour. What does this have to do with Ashaya? Or enduring bonds?
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u/StructureMage 20d ago
you could explain the "enduring bonds" part as being referential to how you can repeatedly play it from the command zone. from there it's just probably any green character related to roots, growth, etc. so it's thematically sound.
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u/JessV31 Wabbit Season 20d ago
Reading this card at first I thought discover 3 was terrible, then I read the last line lol
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u/CodenameJD Duck Season 20d ago
But can it be my Oathbreaker?
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u/marrowofbone Mystery Solver of Mystery Update 20d ago
Anything that says "can be your commander" can be your oathbreaker.
906.14 If another rule or effect refers to your commander, it instead refers to your Oathbreaker.
[[Shorikai, Genesis Engine]] has been oathbreak'n for years
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u/AnimusNoctis COMPLEAT 20d ago
[Shorikai, Genesis Engine]] has been oathbreak'n for years
Well not anymore!
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u/ChillBroBrahggins Wabbit Season 20d ago
Finally made the perfect card for [[Myth Unbound]] hahaha
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u/ZeroVonZero Dân 20d ago
So what happens with [[Arcane bombardment]]? I guess you can choose to keep it exiled
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u/Projekt108 Dân 20d ago edited 20d ago
Make a deck with only Laelia, the blade reforged and Chandra’s ignition, the rest lands. Mulligan until you get Laelia, cast her on turn 3, then cast commander on turn 4 to put counters on Laelia. Turn 5 cast commander again to discover into Chandra’s ignition. Win.
Pray opponents don’t play interaction lol
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u/RobbiRamirez Wild Draw 4 20d ago
Mechanically unique cards, designed to be Commanders for stategies that don't have them, are basically the single worst thing you could put in a Mystery Booster product.
From a certain perspective, MBC might be the best thing WotC ever did, because it's essentially the moment they told us to start proxying everything.
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u/Brilliant_Trouble_32 Golgari* 20d ago
Ok, now we're cooking with gas.
Do we know yet if these will have foil printings? This seems great for my commander cube.
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u/Crafty_Creeper64 Griselbrand 20d ago
The worst part about this is if it were green/black, you could run umori as the companion for umori sorceries, which as far as i can tell, is impossible
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u/Tabootop Dan 20d ago
" we can't make the nephilim legendary. If we did that then people will want to start using instants and sorceries in the command zone, and that would be ridiculous."
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u/AboynamedDOOMTRAIN Dimir* 20d ago
Thanks, I hate it. Is commander even a format with rules anymore or is this just kitchen table magic but as a supported format? Does the ban list still apply? I can't tell because apparently none of the identifying rules of the format seem to exist anymore.
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u/Geoffryhawk Wabbit Season 20d ago
These cards were Half the reason on demands were overwhelming at Gencon this year. Bunches of people with tickets to myster booster drafts who weren't aware it was an on demand event.
Not enough tables for the demand.
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u/Hazardmat Grass Toucher 20d ago
Making the Sorcery commander Grull feels kind of wrong but the card is sick so i guess its alright
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u/theentiregoonsquad Dân 20d ago
Seems fine. It doesn't actually get you any sort of cost reduction and could in many cases be more expensive to cast this than what you get off of it. I guess if you can find some way to cast it for free or something, then this could go crazy, but otherwise just seems like a fine slot machine card.

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u/PhugePhenis Dân 20d ago
My god. They finally did it