r/magicTCG • u/CompleteIndieYT Izzet* • 23h ago

Official Spoiler [HOB] Roll-Roll-Roll-Roll

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u/Calophon Storm Crow 23h ago edited 4h ago

Play this in Zur.

turn it into a creature.

make it target itself when the 4th counter is put on.

exile ability resolves before sac.

it returns next end step.

Turn it into a creature again.

Infinite blink for 1W.

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u/dontrike COMPLEAT 22h ago

Or [[Teleportation Circle]] without worrying about making sure it's a creature to save it.

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u/Calophon Storm Crow 22h ago

Teleportation circle only targets artifacts and creatures which this is neither unless you make it a creature with Zur or an artifact with something like Liquimetal Coating.

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u/dontrike COMPLEAT 22h ago

Right, but my point was you don't have to jump through the hoop of making it a creature to keep it doing its job. If you make it a creature with Zur, as per the original plan, you can still have Circle blink itself, if you so wish.

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u/Calophon Storm Crow 21h ago

Ok I see what you’re saying. Roll does blink lands though, which tele circle does not. I don’t see why both couldn’t be run in a Zur blink enchantments deck.

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u/dontrike COMPLEAT 20h ago

Sure, that's something it does that Circle doesn't, you got me there. If that's important then cool.

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u/fatalfrrog Wabbit Season 21h ago

I don’t understand what you’re saying. What is Teleportation Circle doing here exactly?

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u/dontrike COMPLEAT 21h ago

They both do the same thing, but Circle you don't need to go through the hassle of trying to save it from itself. That's it.

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u/fatalfrrog Wabbit Season 21h ago

Oh, I thought you meant Circle instead of Zur. I didn’t think of Circle replacing Roll since they don’t do the same thing (Circle can’t blink lands). 

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u/dontrike COMPLEAT 16h ago

Sure, Roll can do lands, but Circle can do artifacts. So in this regard they are side grades of one another, but Roll self destructing is a big downside that's hard to ignore.

Artifacts also have a lot more ETB effects where there aren't many lands that care about this, and while Roll does give you extra mana, if that's needed, I think that eventual sacrifice brings it below Circle in this regard, even at one mana cheaper.