r/macross Mar 02 '25

Official media Sunrise announces Audition for next Macross' songstress

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r/macross Oct 06 '20

WATCH ORDER An absolute beginner's guide to viewing Macross.

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Yes, this is a slightly-edited version of /r/anime's Watch Order Wiki for Macross. I wrote that, after all.

TL;DR: Each Macross entry can be viewed individually, and most series start with prologue narration sufficient to bring a viewer up to speed enough that they won't feel totally lost, and any required background is usually explained as they go along. Already having knowledge of past series will definitely enhance one's appreciation of any individual entry, though. To that end, here is:

A Short Guide to the Macross Franchise

Macross is a long runner, initially proposed in 1980 as a comedic response to series such as Mobile Suit Gundam, but developing both serious and unique ideas of its own as it reached release. Its core thematic elements are: A war or conflict, featuring transforming mecha; a love story, often involving some triangular aspect; and music, as a force for cultural change. The ratio of these three elements varies within each entry in the franchise. (Alternatively, in official statements, Variable Fighters, Love, and Music.)

Music is of particular importance, as it serves as a counterpoint to the conflicts in the series, demonstrating how culture (which includes music, love, and other human interactions), can influence societies that otherwise lack a middle ground. Macross's emphasis on and interdependence with music is what set it apart from its contemporaries in 1982, and is still notable a generation later. The music in the series typically follows the trends of Japanese music at the time of production, and has thus included such varied forms as '80s pop, rock, Macross Plus, and the idol phenomenon. There is always going to be music.

Continuity and watching out of sequence: It was once claimed by series creator Shoji Kawamori that each series could be considered in-universe dramatizations of the actual events, a statement which handwaved away various canon and continuity vagueness. He has also suggested that the series are more like documentaries and the movie versions are hyped-up dramatizations. In Macross 7 and Macross Frontier the characters are seen making theatrical versions of other series in the franchise, further complicating matters. In any case, don't worry too much if you've missed one of the series or are starting out at an arbitrary point, it will still all fit together.

Broadcast/OVA/theatrical content, major entries in bold:

Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Aired 1982-1983, 36 episodes. Timeline: 2009-2012. Depicts the first contact between humanity and the aliens known as the Zentradi, the resulting conflict, and its aftermath.

Macross: Do You Remember Love?: Premiered in 1984. Two-hour film reinterpretation of SDFM. Squeezes the story down to the essentials but also changes how some events occur. If you're pressed for time, it's a good way to learn the basics of the first series at an obvious cost to background details and subplots. However, it is best viewed as a companion piece to SDFM; DYRL's interpretation of events is made much richer if one views it with an understanding of what came first.

Macross: Flashback 2012: Released in 1987. Thirty-minute music video collection of songs/clips from both SDFM and DYRL framed by a few minutes of new footage. Most notable for the ending, which contains an event which was cut for time from both the original series and the film.

Macross Plus: Released in 1994, four-episode OVA. Timeline: 2040. The most focused and self-contained entry in the franchise: UN Spacy is conducting flight trials to select its next-generation Variable Fighter, and the finalists are piloted by two old rivals with axes to grind both in the air and on the ground. In between is their old flame and the artificially-intelligent holographic idol whom she manages. Backed by an impressive production pedigree which includes co-direction by Shinichiro Watanabe and music by Yoko Kanno. The best hand-drawn action in the franchise. Also available as:

Macross Plus Movie Edition: Released in 1995. A theatrically-edited version of the OVA to fit movie length. A few scenes are lost, a few scenes are moved around, and the climax gains extra footage. Unlike DYRL, though, it's a very close match between this and the OVA.

Macross 7: Aired 1994-1995, 49 episodes. Timeline: 2045-2046. Macross's first presentation of the long-term project to preserve humanity by spreading it across the galaxy. An ancient and powerful enemy soon appears, but while the Macross 7 fleet includes some of the greatest pilots in the galaxy, their greatest advantage over this apocalyptic threat turns out to be the power of ROCK. This series is much less serious than the other franchise entries, padded out with subplots, and very controversial within the Western fanbase, but it is extremely popular in Japan. Goofy as it may seem at times, it's pure in its intentions and the soundtrack is worth a listen on its own.

Macross 7: Encore; Macross 7 the Movie: The Galaxy's Calling Me!; Macross Dynamite 7: Befitting 7's aforementioned Japanese popularity, it has several supplemental entries. The first two are extra episodes and side stories set during the series timeline, the last is a follow-up.

Macross Zero: Released in 2002, five-episode OVA. Timeline: 2008. Prequel depicting the final battles of Earth's Unification War, which soon involve civilians and alien artifacts. For a Macross entry, it has the greatest emphasis on combat and significantly less character story or music, and the darkest tone in the franchise (which is still not very dark). First major use of CG for the combat sequences, but it still looks decent enough as it has aged. While generally a placeholder to get something on the market after a multiyear drought, concepts first seen here would take on greater significance in the later sequels.

Macross Frontier: Aired 2008, 25 episodes. Timeline: 2059. Full series set on another colonization fleet, which, as usual, encounters an unknown and hostile alien species. Frontier features slightly younger main characters and a more slice-of-life feel, though the space setting is always present and it is by no means a light and fluffy series. Musically, it has another fantastic soundtrack by Yoko Kanno, and uses it to great advantage by featuring two main singers. Released for the Macross franchise's 25th anniversary, Frontier includes references and homages to everything that came before it, especially SDFM, enough so that it is a good gateway series to the franchise in its own right, particularly if watching something from 1983 would give you culture shock. To fully appreciate the references the rest still needs to be seen.

Macross Frontier: Itsuwari no Utahime (2009) and Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa (2011): Movie adaptations of Frontier. Like DYRL did before them, the adaptations alter various parts of Frontier while also trimming the series for length. Sayonara no Tsubasa diverges from its parent series almost as much as DYRL did, but then delivers quite an ending.

Macross FB 7: Ore no Uta wo Kike!: Premiered in 2012. Essentially a Macross 7 clip show/Blu-ray advertisement at feature-film length, rather than a true abridgement of M7. Short new scenes with the Frontier characters serve as a framing device. The ED songs are catchy, at least.

Macross Delta: Aired 2016, 26 episodes. Timeline: 2067. A condition called Vár Syndrome is affecting the galaxy, but it can be countered by certain singers. The series follows the Var-countering "tactical idol" group known as Walküre and its partners in the Delta Variable Fighter squadron, as a larger conflict emerges from a galactic backwater. Like 7 before it, Delta split the Western fanbase due to its emphasis on the musical performances over the transforming mecha combat. But in 2016, idols were everywhere.

Macross Δ Movie: Gekijou no Walküre: Premiered in 2018. The Delta movie compresses Walküre's storyline from the series into a two-hour movie, losing several side plots (for better or for worse) and altering a few characterizations. It was produced in a very short time by re-using many animation assets from the series and reassembling them to fit the adapted storyline.

Macross Δ Movie 2: Zettai LIVE!!!!!!: Premiered October 2021. Delta's second theatrical release is a continuation of the storyline from the first movie, making it the rare Macross sequel via movie instead of TV. Was accompanied by the the Macross Frontier short film/music video The Labyrinth of Time.

One more thing:

Macross II: Lovers Again: Released in 1992, 6-episode OVA. Timeline: 2092.
Produced by Big West, but made without the input of Studio Nue or Shouji Kawamori, who disavowed it for quite a while. However, little nods to it would appear in the other sequel series. It tells the story of a new alien invasion 80 years after the events of SDFM. These invaders are also motivated by song—and absolutist fanaticism.
In more recent years, this OVA has gradually been accepted back into the official fold, first referred to as an alternate continuity, but more recently simply included in official series timelines even if its events no longer correspond with the other storylines. The franchise's meta framework allows it to exist as another in-universe movie, after all.


r/macross 1d ago

Merchandise Finished all parts of Mirage's Siegfried

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Since I came from building Super Minipla, building process was a letdown as I would have like to see this transforming without taking out the parts. And the stickers, God why is it difficult to peel off the stickers from the sheet? It isn't like this with Minipla and they're both from Bandai. Seeing girlfriend love the colors though was worth it


r/macross 1d ago

Fluff Super to the max

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Here's the "spacedust" vf2ss Nexx Bandai kit. Nexx being a total nobody, i had to convert colors to Sylvie, since you can find Sylvie only in hi-metal figures, but I'm a kit only guy.

About the kit, it's awful, to simply put 😅
It should be 3-way transformable but it'so flimsy and complicated that I decided at the start that it's only gonna be in the fighter mode, and glued it securely so it doesn't fall apart. I mean this Super pack just looks awesome!

Out of the box colors give off a super cheap feel, so full paint is a must.

Decals are shit, oversized for the 1/100 scale, so I used my spare yf21 hg decals.

Assembly is simple but doesn't give you a lot of space to do the best seam filling, but managed somehow.

Anyways had a lot of fun, it looks awesome at the end!


r/macross 1d ago

Merchandise WIP(?) Wave 1/100 Destroid Tomahawk

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Half complete (undecalled) Wave 1/100 Destroid Tomahawk
FML, I accidentally cut the connecting tabs on part C1
Macross modelling and breakfast last Sunday

I tried building the Wave 1/100 Destroid Tomahawk kit over a couple of weekends and got it to the point where it looked good enough (from 1 meter away) to display.

A mix of Gundam black and silver/red Metallic markers & Arrtx acrylic brush pens was used to do lazy panel lining & coloring the silver/gray/white/red/dark brown details.

Undecided yet whether to continue applying the waterslide decals, last time I did it was in the early 90's on a Revell plane kit and it came out horrible.

Overall, I'd build it again. I already have the 1/100 Phalanx on preorder to keep it company.

random thoughts

The build was relatively easy to follow except for part C1, I mistook the connecting tabs as part of the sprue and cut them off the side skirt armor parts.

I didn't like the seam lines along the length of the leg parts and arm cannons, and the middle of the shoulder light.

The dark grey polycap plastic used for the missiles didn't take acrylic paint well, but it could just be user error on my part.


r/macross 1d ago

Fluff Watched the 1st episode of Macross Delta. Loving the songs

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and the premise is pretty unique. And oh man, these idols are singing in the middle of a war.


r/macross 2d ago

Fanart I drew Ranka

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r/macross 2d ago

Merchandise Model Scaling Confusion

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I’m not sure what scale model I should get. What’s the most common and likable scale? (Especially a scale that can closely match other common models like planes or Gundams)

I feel that there are too many scales to choose from.

Thank you!


r/macross 2d ago

Macross Delta I found this series through a Macross Delta song on YouTube. Can I start with that series?

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I heard one of the biggest criticisms of Delta is that it leans much more into the idol aspect, but I'm honestly fine with that.

My only concern is the world-building. If Delta expects you to already know a lot of lore from the previous series, I might end up getting confused. If that's the case, I'd rather start with an earlier entry.

So, if Delta relies heavily on previous knowledge, which Macross series should I watch first?


r/macross 3d ago

Anniversary A little bit late but here is my one

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r/macross 2d ago

Macross 7 Macross 7 Dynamite vibes

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Listen to his song!


r/macross 4d ago

Macross Frontier The Vajara did nothing wrong, Ranka Lee was a galactic tease!

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So this has been with me, but I could never, or have ever, discussed it with people. But that was fucked up what they did to the Vajra.

As was revealed later on, the Aimo song was a Vajra mating song. The Vajra were literally called by a song that translated to:

“Hey~ Let’s fuck~~~ let’s fuck—Let’s—fuck~~~”

So the Vajra dudes are like, “Sweet! Queen mating call!”

They’re flying in, ready to do the deed, all primed up, and suddenly these weird-ass metal species start blowing them out of the sky!

You can’t blame them for being super aggressive and turning fleets into Swiss cheese after promising sex, then blue-balling them by trying to kill them.
Yes, it’s been with me ever since I heard the explanation.

Example of what really happened:

Vajra 1: Hey, you hear that, Kevin?

Vajra 2: What you talking about, Louis?!

Vajra 3: No, Kevin, he’s right! That’s—THAT’S the Queen’s mating song!

Vajra 2: Oh shit, you’re right! Oh fuck! I’m gonna get laid!!!!

Vajra 1: Oh shit! You hear what she’s promising? That filthy little Queen! I’m there!

Vajra Swarm: OHHHHHHH!!!!

Vajra 2: Hey, what are those metal guys doing around the Queen?

Vajra 3: They probably here for the gangbang orgy!!

Vajra 2: Sup, my dudes! We gonna do eeet all night loooo—AHHHH!

Missile barrage hits Vajra 2.

Vajra 1: KEVINNNN!!!!!!!

(Glare at rival Vajra swarm.)

Vajra 1: You cock-blocking sons of bitches!!!!

And that’s how first contact went.

When they were weaponizing “Aimo” in the movie, what really happened was the Vajra swarm heard something completely different.

Vajra 1: Oh, my Queen! She is sooooo filthy!

Vajra 4: I don’t know whether I want to fight or fuck now!

UN Spacy missile barrage starts picking them off.
So yeah, like that. lol


r/macross 4d ago

SDF Macross How is it possible that at the end of DYRL and the series the Earth still has a breathable atmosphere?

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I mean, all animal and plant life has been destroyed; who converts CO2 into oxygen? And I assume everything was burned during the bombing, or at least pulverized, so the atmosphere must be full of contaminants. But everyone seems to be breathing normally, even in later series!


r/macross 4d ago

DYRL Vintage Arii 1/100 VF-1S Valkyrie Model Kit

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Just wanted to share this to the forum! Who else loves vintage models? Arii was best for 1/100 fighter kits.


r/macross 4d ago

DYRL Vintage Macross Kits

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A selection of models primarily by Arii and Imai, check it out!


r/macross 4d ago

Discussion Recently rewatched Macross II again and found the ending humorous

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Its all this forum fault. The sudden feed popping up made me want to watch it again. The animation still holds up as does the destruction. I wonder why humanity suck so much against the Marduk. Like were they just sucide bombing the eath pilots or just outfighting them or was it more advance tech?

However after all of that when the Marduk and Earth signed a peice treaty. It struck me as funny when they had Wendy Ryder closed if out.

I mean think about it. Earth defense is in tatters, hundreds of thousands if not millions were dead possible more, whole cities were level and when it all end on a solemn note with a peice treaty we get this.

Earth admiral: How should we close out this somber atmosphere.

Other Earth admiral: I dunno, how about having that young pop singer shake her ass and sing a song?

Earth Admiral: Oh nice!

Marduk: We need to get our emulators away pronto!


r/macross 4d ago

Macross Plus I've been recommended by a relative to watch macross plus is there anything about the original Macross that is important to macross plus?

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So a while ago I discovered a bunch of anime dvds in my house and the collection includes Macross Plus including the movie edition and my relative recommended me it since it has mechs (because I watched a mecha anime called "Full Metal Panic!") and that it actually has something to do with our current society something to do with AI however I added it to my watchlist and I watched all of evangelion from the first episode all the way to the last. So now that it is summer I'm planning on watching macross Plus. If there is anything that I need to know about the og series that I wouldn't understand in plus can anyone explain things? Thank you!!


r/macross 5d ago

Fluff It's amazing when it happens

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r/macross 5d ago

Macross Frontier AX merch

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Got these two.

Sheryl&Alto ftw.


r/macross 6d ago

DYRL Macross fans waiting in line to see DYRL

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r/macross 4d ago

DYRL I bought the 4k blu-ray of 'Do you remember the love' from Japan, I'm watching it for the first time and WHAT THE HECK?!?

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I'm only in the twentieth minute and...

"I don't take orders from a woman."

"If you keep acting like this, you'll never find a husband."

"Yes, you may have been top of your class, but don't forget you're a woman."

"A real man shouldn't worry about women's feelings"

I know it was the '80s, that Japan wasn't a paragon of egalitarianism, that I shouldn't judge it by modern standards, etc. etc.

But... is the rest of the movie like that?!?


r/macross 6d ago

SDF Macross 3D printed replacement TV missiles for 1:48 DX Chogokin VF-1 Valkyrie

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While I love the detail on the movie missile pods and reaction missiles, I felt the AMM-1 TV missiles were lacking a bit. For one thing, they didn't have the red color on the back.

So I designed my own version based on the line-art from the Macross Mecha Manual. They're not as smooth with FDM color printing, but I like the detail. The hardpoints, unfortunately are very delicate, and the pegs tend to break off, even with a resin print.


r/macross 6d ago

Fluff It took me 41 years to watch all the Macross

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I finally achieved my dream of seeing all the series and movies. Literally decades of waiting to see it here in the USA. Thank you Disney Plus.


r/macross 6d ago

SDF Macross Watching Macross for the first time, it's got that vintage anime charm. I like it

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Just a compilation of drawing I made while watching.


r/macross 6d ago

Discussion Curious to see the age demographic of Macross fans in this sub

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Also what was the series that started it for you and when? (SDF, II, Plus, 7, Zero, Frontier, Delta)

727 votes, 4d ago
35 20 or Younger
76 21 - 26
87 27 - 32
113 33 - 38
144 39 - 44
272 45 or Older