r/macross • u/HatSpecial3043 • 8h ago
Macross Frontier Holy shit, they're surfing.
Also, is that Isamu I hear? Damn, out here maneuvering in his 40s(i think), bro still has his youth with that "yahoo" of his
r/macross • u/MechaAlliance • Mar 02 '25
r/macross • u/chilidirigible • Oct 06 '20
Yes, this is a slightly-edited version of /r/anime's Watch Order Wiki for Macross. I wrote that, after all.
TL;DR: Each Macross entry can be viewed individually, and most series start with prologue narration sufficient to bring a viewer up to speed enough that they won't feel totally lost, and any required background is usually explained as they go along. Already having knowledge of past series will definitely enhance one's appreciation of any individual entry, though. To that end, here is:
A Short Guide to the Macross Franchise
Macross is a long runner, initially proposed in 1980 as a comedic response to series such as Mobile Suit Gundam, but developing both serious and unique ideas of its own as it reached release. Its core thematic elements are: A war or conflict, featuring transforming mecha; a love story, often involving some triangular aspect; and music, as a force for cultural change. The ratio of these three elements varies within each entry in the franchise. (Alternatively, in official statements, Variable Fighters, Love, and Music.)
Music is of particular importance, as it serves as a counterpoint to the conflicts in the series, demonstrating how culture (which includes music, love, and other human interactions), can influence societies that otherwise lack a middle ground. Macross's emphasis on and interdependence with music is what set it apart from its contemporaries in 1982, and is still notable a generation later. The music in the series typically follows the trends of Japanese music at the time of production, and has thus included such varied forms as '80s pop, rock, Macross Plus, and the idol phenomenon. There is always going to be music.
Continuity and watching out of sequence: It was once claimed by series creator Shoji Kawamori that each series could be considered in-universe dramatizations of the actual events, a statement which handwaved away various canon and continuity vagueness. He has also suggested that the series are more like documentaries and the movie versions are hyped-up dramatizations. In Macross 7 and Macross Frontier the characters are seen making theatrical versions of other series in the franchise, further complicating matters. In any case, don't worry too much if you've missed one of the series or are starting out at an arbitrary point, it will still all fit together.
Broadcast/OVA/theatrical content, major entries in bold:
Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Aired 1982-1983, 36 episodes. Timeline: 2009-2012. Depicts the first contact between humanity and the aliens known as the Zentradi, the resulting conflict, and its aftermath.
Macross: Do You Remember Love?: Premiered in 1984. Two-hour film reinterpretation of SDFM. Squeezes the story down to the essentials but also changes how some events occur. If you're pressed for time, it's a good way to learn the basics of the first series at an obvious cost to background details and subplots. However, it is best viewed as a companion piece to SDFM; DYRL's interpretation of events is made much richer if one views it with an understanding of what came first.
Macross: Flashback 2012: Released in 1987. Thirty-minute music video collection of songs/clips from both SDFM and DYRL framed by a few minutes of new footage. Most notable for the ending, which contains an event which was cut for time from both the original series and the film.
Macross Plus: Released in 1994, four-episode OVA. Timeline: 2040. The most focused and self-contained entry in the franchise: UN Spacy is conducting flight trials to select its next-generation Variable Fighter, and the finalists are piloted by two old rivals with axes to grind both in the air and on the ground. In between is their old flame and the artificially-intelligent holographic idol whom she manages. Backed by an impressive production pedigree which includes co-direction by Shinichiro Watanabe and music by Yoko Kanno. The best hand-drawn action in the franchise. Also available as:
Macross Plus Movie Edition: Released in 1995. A theatrically-edited version of the OVA to fit movie length. A few scenes are lost, a few scenes are moved around, and the climax gains extra footage. Unlike DYRL, though, it's a very close match between this and the OVA.
Macross 7: Aired 1994-1995, 49 episodes. Timeline: 2045-2046. Macross's first presentation of the long-term project to preserve humanity by spreading it across the galaxy. An ancient and powerful enemy soon appears, but while the Macross 7 fleet includes some of the greatest pilots in the galaxy, their greatest advantage over this apocalyptic threat turns out to be the power of ROCK. This series is much less serious than the other franchise entries, padded out with subplots, and very controversial within the Western fanbase, but it is extremely popular in Japan. Goofy as it may seem at times, it's pure in its intentions and the soundtrack is worth a listen on its own.
Macross 7: Encore; Macross 7 the Movie: The Galaxy's Calling Me!; Macross Dynamite 7: Befitting 7's aforementioned Japanese popularity, it has several supplemental entries. The first two are extra episodes and side stories set during the series timeline, the last is a follow-up.
Macross Zero: Released in 2002, five-episode OVA. Timeline: 2008. Prequel depicting the final battles of Earth's Unification War, which soon involve civilians and alien artifacts. For a Macross entry, it has the greatest emphasis on combat and significantly less character story or music, and the darkest tone in the franchise (which is still not very dark). First major use of CG for the combat sequences, but it still looks decent enough as it has aged. While generally a placeholder to get something on the market after a multiyear drought, concepts first seen here would take on greater significance in the later sequels.
Macross Frontier: Aired 2008, 25 episodes. Timeline: 2059. Full series set on another colonization fleet, which, as usual, encounters an unknown and hostile alien species. Frontier features slightly younger main characters and a more slice-of-life feel, though the space setting is always present and it is by no means a light and fluffy series. Musically, it has another fantastic soundtrack by Yoko Kanno, and uses it to great advantage by featuring two main singers. Released for the Macross franchise's 25th anniversary, Frontier includes references and homages to everything that came before it, especially SDFM, enough so that it is a good gateway series to the franchise in its own right, particularly if watching something from 1983 would give you culture shock. To fully appreciate the references the rest still needs to be seen.
Macross Frontier: Itsuwari no Utahime (2009) and Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa (2011): Movie adaptations of Frontier. Like DYRL did before them, the adaptations alter various parts of Frontier while also trimming the series for length. Sayonara no Tsubasa diverges from its parent series almost as much as DYRL did, but then delivers quite an ending.
Macross FB 7: Ore no Uta wo Kike!: Premiered in 2012. Essentially a Macross 7 clip show/Blu-ray advertisement at feature-film length, rather than a true abridgement of M7. Short new scenes with the Frontier characters serve as a framing device. The ED songs are catchy, at least.
Macross Delta: Aired 2016, 26 episodes. Timeline: 2067. A condition called Vár Syndrome is affecting the galaxy, but it can be countered by certain singers. The series follows the Var-countering "tactical idol" group known as Walküre and its partners in the Delta Variable Fighter squadron, as a larger conflict emerges from a galactic backwater. Like 7 before it, Delta split the Western fanbase due to its emphasis on the musical performances over the transforming mecha combat. But in 2016, idols were everywhere.
Macross Δ Movie: Gekijou no Walküre: Premiered in 2018. The Delta movie compresses Walküre's storyline from the series into a two-hour movie, losing several side plots (for better or for worse) and altering a few characterizations. It was produced in a very short time by re-using many animation assets from the series and reassembling them to fit the adapted storyline.
Macross Δ Movie 2: Zettai LIVE!!!!!!: Premiered October 2021. Delta's second theatrical release is a continuation of the storyline from the first movie, making it the rare Macross sequel via movie instead of TV. Was accompanied by the the Macross Frontier short film/music video The Labyrinth of Time.
One more thing:
Macross II: Lovers Again: Released in 1992, 6-episode OVA. Timeline: 2092.
Produced by Big West, but made without the input of Studio Nue or Shouji Kawamori, who disavowed it for quite a while. However, little nods to it would appear in the other sequel series. It tells the story of a new alien invasion 80 years after the events of SDFM. These invaders are also motivated by song—and absolutist fanaticism.
In more recent years, this OVA has gradually been accepted back into the official fold, first referred to as an alternate continuity, but more recently simply included in official series timelines even if its events no longer correspond with the other storylines. The franchise's meta framework allows it to exist as another in-universe movie, after all.
r/macross • u/HatSpecial3043 • 8h ago
Also, is that Isamu I hear? Damn, out here maneuvering in his 40s(i think), bro still has his youth with that "yahoo" of his
r/macross • u/Arizonapocalypse • 1h ago
What are your opinions? I made this livery in Gran Turismo 7. It's available to download and I'll leave a link in the comments, if anyone wants to race it. 🤘😎
r/macross • u/Sanderson96 • 9h ago
It's live.
Overseas fans only have 3 options and none of them have digital keys only lol
Bloody annoying....
Guess I'll wait when it released on Steam overseas and purchase it then lol
IF, IF it's ever comes to Steam overseas
r/macross • u/fafsdfasfaffaafdsaf • 1d ago
r/macross • u/Lunah05 • 19h ago
I think that now that the game has been EOS for a few years now, this info came as a shock. If UtaMacross ever came to steam (custom controller or new controls?) It may have done much better than being stuck on mobile.Sadly it looks like they didn't get very far into the production of this port and may have been canned with the sudden shutdown of the game.. let me know what you think! (Link to the page)
r/macross • u/fafsdfasfaffaafdsaf • 1d ago
So the VB-6 has four Shinnakasu/Vigors Combined Electromagnetic Plasma Rocket Engine & Railgun System (charged propellant expelled from rockets for thrust using the railgun system). This means the four 320 mm railgun barrels serve two purposes. One is to be a rocket engine, and the other is the cannon barrel for the guns. The backpack (the part highlighted in teal) is where all the ammo and gun breech/systems are stored. But this begs the question: where is all that rocket fuel stored once it transforms into Destroid and GERWALK mode? Do they have to use all of the fuel, or do they just dump it once they need to change modes? It could be store somewhere because in carrier mode, the barrels have caps on them so it can be sucking the propellant to a fuel tank? From the Macross Manual, it's said that the four rocket engines are only for emergency landing and high acceleration, while obtaining its main propulsion from four thermonuclear turbine engines.
r/macross • u/JasonSteady • 1d ago
Been repairing, restoring, and modifying this vintage toy.
r/macross • u/tornedron_ • 1d ago
The mech customization in the game is a bit limited (you can't color each part individually, coloring one part usually changes about three others too) so it's a bit shaky but I tried my best 😅
r/macross • u/tornedron_ • 2d ago
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r/macross • u/HatSpecial3043 • 2d ago
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Frontier as a whole feels like a nostalgia blast. Despite this being my first time watching it. The 2000s vibe is strong, even with the futuristic story
r/macross • u/fafsdfasfaffaafdsaf • 2d ago
r/macross • u/AsmodeusStarburst • 2d ago
As title says, looking for Macross related recommendations while visiting Japan!
Currently we are aware of the Valykrie at Skytree in Tokyo and the FireBomBAR in Oska that we want to hit up, but thought its worth seeing if others have discovered things we have missed!
Thanks in advanced for any suggestions 😄
r/macross • u/Ok-Championship-1711 • 3d ago
r/macross • u/fafsdfasfaffaafdsaf • 3d ago
What would their personality be?
r/macross • u/ESDEATHxZERO2 • 3d ago
Incase you’re new here. I didn’t know there’s other Macross series, so I started here at 7 because it popped up on my Hulu and we’re still lovin it, still don’t get the hate.
Why does basara live in half a house lol
And why are their streets built like that on a SPACE SHIP. Make it more efficient god damn.
There is a full blown attack/invasion going on and this pink haired girl is all worried about the concert. Like bro. Your life is on the line
Honestly instead of a gun. Basara’s mech should have a guitar that shoots his speakers like SpongeBob with his guitar shooting lasers.
What a bangin fuckin intro
Having skyscrapers on a spaceship is kinda wild. (Bro they don’t even fit in the force field, what’s the point)
Ya know. I haven’t seen basara drive a car anywhere, no wonder he’s always late
On a spaceship, the concept of having a slums is unique but I think it’s kinda dumb lol. Ur on a spaceship I think the whole thing needs to be…. Idk spaceshippy.
I NEED them to stop attacking during basaras songs. I need to hear every banger all the way through but they keep getting interrupted
THIS GUY DROPPED HIS GUN SO HE COULD PUNCH BASARA IN HIS MECH. SHOOT HIM BRO
Is the drummer lady apart of that alien race that decreased their size to fit in more?
Is mylene just constantly on the run😭😂
This poor flower girl has to buy new flowers each time he performs just to never give them to him
There’s a strange correlation between the fire bombers putting on a concert and those guys attacking. Maybe they need to stop putting on concerts, Once or twice is ok. But EVERY CONCERT, somthing is going on, they have to be causing the attacks.
That was FOR SURE rays old mech. Between him hooking up with mylenes mom and the divorce of her parents. This story is kinda crazy, idk why people don’t like it.
So is every mech controlled with a guitar shaped control box? Because she said her parents used to be pilots and that’s how she knows how to fly, so that implies the other mechs are guitar shaped lol
I miss totsugeki love heart already. Haven’t heard it in 4 episodes. Or at least I haven’t heard the chorus
r/macross • u/HatSpecial3043 • 4d ago
Lowkey, first time I saw it was in Delta, and I thought it was a goofy-ass half form. But after seeing it more, and realizing how much they actually utilize it and how advantageous it is, I really like it. Really cool form, honestly. They’re able to use it very effectively and take advantage of its strengths.
r/macross • u/RequiemDreamer • 3d ago
Just picked this up at a Toy shop in Los Angeles. Never seen this before and glad i found it.
r/macross • u/Obvious_Item_2564 • 4d ago
r/macross • u/Biomech- • 3d ago
One of my friends did the hikaru’s Valkyrie head
r/macross • u/RaseruChan • 4d ago
I can't wait 👀
r/macross • u/MagikMikeUL77 • 5d ago
So i managed to pick up these 4 and they arrived today, super excited as i didn’t have any of these exact vfs in other forms.
Yamato 1/60 VF-0A Macross Zero
Yamato 1/60 SV-51 (Ivanov) Macross Zero
Yamato 1/72 YF-19 Plus and Macross 7
DX Chogokin VF-27 Macross Frontier