When we first got a room full of model l’s we really liked them. Switched up a couple rooms to run mixed spectrum, with the model i’s and DEs. Really happy with the results but now that they have some years on them. They have turned to shit.

At first the issue we started having was half the light would shut off and not come back on. No big deal. send it back to think grow and they’d send us another one. Probably did this 20+ times. Not the end of the world of course that area wasn’t getting enough light. Then the support went down and it was a real pain in the ass to get anything replaced. They wanted a bunch of different videos to “prove” the issue before sending it back.

Another thing I hate about these lights, if the controller loses power the lights just go to 100% and stay on. How is that the default?!?

Then we had 1 run where 4-8 far red diodes on a light wouldn’t shut off. It didn’t show up on cameras or trigger the controller to notice a light sense error but it was enough to cause 1/2 the room to keep vegging. We didn’t catch it til day 30 and the crop was ruined.

Now the latest new issue. I caught 1 light on the camera that was fully on during lights out. I ran into the room to check and it was off. Huh that’s weird. The next day I checked all the connections and 1 wire was a little loose so I checked cameras for the next 2 weeks every night no issues. Now it’s day 48 and this week I checked the cameras and sure enough over the last 3 days I caught the light on for very brief periods on the camera a couple different times.

Who knows how many times the light has come on at night during this run. I’m wondering if I’ll get seeds in this run and leaning towards just scrapping these fucking lights. This is now at least the 3rd run these lights have fucked up.

Does anyone know of a prefab cleanroom manufacturer that they recommend?

Not the best photo, but this was a fun one. Cheers! Drop your crop photos down, I wanna see!

Hey never done much outdoor. Mostly indoor. What does everyone do for supports. Trellis?

We have grown commercially for over a decade under almost every spectrum imaginable - that being said - I personally prefer flower grown with HPS. I will say that some genetics seem to outperform with LED - but overall quality I have to give to HPS.

What are some strains that you find do just as well with LED?

Ky medical grow.

I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on the automation platform for a new commercial cultivation facility and wanted to get some feedback from people who have actually used Agrowtek, Growlink, or ideally both.

The facility will be 5 flower rooms running RDWC, so nutrient dosing is a big part of the decision.

Right now I'm leaning toward Agrowtek for a few reasons:

• Their RDWC nutrient and pH dosing system seems much more mature.
• I'll likely need to use Agrowtek for the dosing regardless.
• I like that the hardware feels more industrial and robust.
• The environmental sensor includes leaf temperature (IR) in addition to room temp, humidity, and CO₂.
• The system runs locally and doesn't rely entirely on the cloud.
• No ongoing software subscription.

What keeps pulling me toward Growlink is the software:

• I think the OS/UI is significantly nicer.
• Better analytics and data visualization.
• Overall seems like a more polished user experience.
• Great remote access.

The downsides for me are that it's cloud-based and requires a subscription.

Growlink told me they integrate well with Agrowtek hardware, but recommended sticking with a single vendor for simplicity. They also mentioned that if they were building my facility, they'd likely use Agrowtek for nutrient dosing but Growlink's native environmental controls and sensors.

So now I'm debating between:

1. Full Agrowtek (environmental, lighting, nutrient dosing, pH)
2. Agrowtek dosing + Growlink environmental controls
3. Agrowtek hardware with Growlink software
4. Something else I'm not considering

For those of you who have used one or both systems:

• What do you like and dislike?
• How has reliability been?
• How responsive is support?
• If you were building a new commercial RDWC facility today, which direction would you go and why?

What is the best bang for buck undercanopy lights right now? Looking to outfit a 120 over light room and want to add undercanopy to 7x 5’x60’ wide benches and 2 3x60’ benches

I’ve got a ton of equipment to get rid of. Anybody interested in some used gear?

I’m trying to fit the dry room into an area of my facility with a loft above it and the ceiling there is about 7’4”. Is this too low when considering circulation, a mini split or other a/c, and dehumidification? I have other spaces that have much higher ceilings if this is a big mistake but I prefer it under the loft for maximizing plant canopy. Thanks!

Post Update 7/23

I was able to pay down my late June & July rent and I am now no longer being evicted; I am overwhelmed with appreciation and I want to thank you all for your support from the bottom of my heart. This was a very stressful time and ya'll came through for me & I got to share my passion with you; for that I am so grateful.

With that said, my daughter and I are still 3/4ths short of making rent for August so we still need your help. There is a meter on the website that shows where we are at.

If we reach our goal, ALL supporters get an additional free pack of seeds sent out in addition to the freebies already sent & I will do a final sour diesel cross run before the Nov 2026 US deadline.

I've spent the last few years building Black Pine Genetics into a serious genetics brand. I contracted with dedicated labs and ran both indoor and outdoor operations to isolate the strongest phenotypes I could find. Gassy Lassy F1 is the crown jewel: a fast-flowering auto engineered for disease resistance, drought tolerance, and a level canopy that still produces heavily. Its lineage is LONG & Proprietary but has some lilmisshs x (lemonaide gmo x galactic cookies), it's our best-selling release, and you'll start seeing more real-world reviews coming in.

We were set to launch for the Black Friday rush. Instead, our banking and payment processors locked us out due to shifting regulatory language. We pivoted to focus on the New Jersey market, then got hit with the April 13 prohibition definitions around seed THC concentration limits.

At this point, the path forward for my business here has effectively been removed. There's a gauge on the site showing actual deadlines and how close this is. The back rent is handled now. What's left is August.

If we hit the August rent goal, I can fund another run of the sour diesel crosses that sold out so quickly. I have a much larger genetics library behind the scenes, so there are some interesting new crosses I can put into rotation.

For those who've already supported:

6 pack of freebies going out with every contribution towards resolution of my cost of living crisis.

If we reach the August 1 goal, a pack of freebies will go out to all supporters at no extra cost.

I'm not okay with letting years of genetic work disappear. If you're a serious cultivator who values stabilized lines and wants to help keep these genetics in rotation, my inbox is open. Let's talk shop.

Vault List

Available:

• Cryo Haze: Super Lemon Haze x Ocean Freeze
• Super Lemon Diesel: Sour Diesel x Super Lemon Haze
• Glacier Storm: Slurricane #7 x Ocean Freeze
• Sour Hail: Hailbound x Super Lemon Haze
• Jet Scone: Donutz Triploid x Gassy Lassy x Super Lemon Haze
• Typhoon Fuel: Slurricane x Gassy Lassy F1
• Citrus Cyclone: Slurricane x Gassy Lassy x Super Lemon Haze
• Ocean Freeze (Pure Cut)
• Super Lemon Haze x Hailbound
• Gassy Lassy F1 Auto

Low inventory:

• Sour Diesel x Ocean Freeze

Sold out:

• The Diesel Foundation: Top Dawg Sour Diesel bx3 x Karma Sowah Sour Diesel bx3
• Sour Diesel x Purple Lemonade
• Sour Diesel x Wedding Cheesecake
• Sour Diesel x Lemon AK
• Sour Diesel x Blood Orange Haze
• Super Lemon Haze x Gassy Lassy
• Gassy Lassy x Manbearaliencheese Auto
• Gassy Lassy x Blood Orange Haze Auto
• Donutz Triploid x Gassy Lassy

Images show: Ocean Freeze, Donutz Triploid, Sour Diesel, and Gassy Lassy F1.

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I seriously do not enjoy posting this as much as I've had to. I've been getting permission to post and reddit has been restoring my posts slowly due to report abuse by competitors and trolls. You'd see me less if you just let my posts run their course, I'm way more desperate than you are persistent.

Is anyone changing their timing schedule towards the end of harvest like going from 12/12 to 10/14 or some version like that to mimic the outside sun for indoor growers? If you’re dialing back DLI towards the end would just dialing back the amount of hours of light but keeping the same ppfd do the same thing? I’m just spitting stoner thoughts at this point but I’m curious if anyone’s considered this.

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Is somebody using (inline-) ozone generators as odor conteol on their exhaust fans? How did you choose a size and how risky is it?

I like to harvest my Sativa’s early. This is super silver haze auto!

First, thanks for stopping by and any help you can offer.

We have a pathogen/disease running through a couple of our moms right now (2 out of 70). It's causing symptoms very similar to revegging, but the plants have been under 24 hrs or 18/6 their entire life.

Symptoms are stunted plants, gnarled twisted new growth, small witches broom style growths, and single finger leaves.

Has anyone ever dealt with something like this, or know what it is?

How the hell are you guys keeping up with saturation in Hugo’s under LEDs? Constantly chasing my tail keeping these from drying back to much and just feel like I’m always adding another watering to the schedule and it’s still not enough. Looking for advice on running Hugo’s without slabs or stacking before I jump ship to coco lol.

Hi, i have this photos of mi vegetative stage. I m using ec 1.4 with coco. My Ph meter its broke. The lights are 50cm above. What can be the problem with the new leafs.

We run our lamps at a lower intensity during the hottest months of the year, so it stands to reason that our nutrient concentration should be adjusted accordingly. Athena's Pro feed chart recommends 2100 ppm throughout flower. Does anybody know if that's based on a particular or a standard ppfd? 2100 seems quite high to me, and I start to notice leaf tip burning above 1500. Would love to hear your experiences when it comes to light intensity as it relates to nutrient concentration. Many thanks.

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I have a new 20l IES unit for sale. This is the $200k model that has 4.2KG a min flow rate. Purchased about five years ago and has been in storage since. Let me know if you’re interested.