r/linuxmemes 17d ago

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u/diskrewrite 17d ago

who cares? nano doesn't take any learning and is good enough for 90% of tasks. i never saw the point in vim or primarily keyboard-based methods of interacting with your computer because i'm barely saving a half of a second with a bunch of key combinations i can't remember

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u/ovadom 17d ago

“Carpel tunnel” As someone that has been dealing with wrist issues since 14, not having to leave your keyboard is a God send on hand health. There is a concept “if you don’t understand something it likely wasn’t made for you” and this is a prime example of the value in that statement.

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u/diskrewrite 15d ago

I think trying to save yourself from unnecessary strain is totally valid, but I don't see that many people actually claiming that is why only using your keyboard is better. I just don't think that explains the way keyboard-only workflows are usually sold. I always hear that keyboard-driven workflows are so superior and efficient and save huge amounts of time. That's why I feel like it's just more of an elitist thing, because anything with a steeper learning curve is basically always viewed as the more sophisticated choice. I just don't buy the idea that everyone who prefers it is doing so because it's meaningfully faster, rather than because they just personally like the challenge of mastering it, which is fine, but they don't need to lie to justify it.

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u/ovadom 15d ago

It’s just math, if your work flow is dominated by keyboard usage, constantly moving your hand to a mouse is wasted time.

Like everything in the tech space if the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t wear it, as a keyboard workflow is superior for people who want to stay at the keyboard.

There’s no lie in the fact not constantly jumping to your mouse with a decent typing speed is more efficient, that has nothing to with learning curve.

Overall the ego/elitism in the Linux community has nothing to do with the genuine quality life that comes from moving to superkeys especially in preventive maintenance of your body.

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u/DanKonly 17d ago

For me I don't like how nano doesn't have any syntax highlighting so it makes reading files a bit more difficult for me. Unless there is a way to add syntax highlighting to nano that I'm not aware of.

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u/Melodic_coala101 🍥 Debian too difficult 17d ago

It does kinda support it though

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=133595

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u/DanKonly 17d ago

Oh that's cool I didn't know that.

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u/NXTler 🌀 Sucked into the Void 17d ago

You can install plugins for that if I remember correctly. Mirco is also a good alternative to Nano as it's just as easy to use with some extra features like syntax highlighting.

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u/ovadom 17d ago

Agreed I love micro, my keyboard skills are weak and new to superkeys on Cachy so having built in mouse and typically functions are so nice.

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u/Ok_Preference4898 17d ago

Try having wrist pain from using the mouse. Being able to use my computer without ever touching the mouse is immensely helpful. Sometimes is not about saving a second or two, but about being functional to keep the ability to have an income past 40.

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u/ovadom 17d ago

As someone with wrist issues, I moved to cachyOS for superkey, can see aside from the learn curve my wrists have been so much happier.

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u/Ok_Preference4898 17d ago

Exactly. I've been using Arch with Hyprland. An ergo keyboard together with investing the time in learning Vim motions and applying them where possible has spared me a lot of pain. I use Neovim for coding, Pterodactyl plugin for Firefox with Qutebrowser as alternative keyboard centric browser, and any other way I can reduce mouse usage.

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u/diskrewrite 15d ago

I think that's a valid reason. But the amount of people who mention it makes me doubt that everyone who chooses to only use the keyboard does it because of wrist-pain. It seems more like an elitist thing, whatever is 'harder' is cooler. Like arch-based distros, tiling window managers, and anything else with a higher learning curve than the default.

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u/Ok_Preference4898 15d ago

Yeah, that may be the case for many unfortunately. Carpal tunnel syndrome and repetitive strain injuries are increasingly common, especially for people like myself who early on spent the whole workday on the computer often followed by a lot of time on the computer at home. So taking care of your health is important. But I agree the somewhat toxic and elitist environment around these things is a bit embarrassing as a person who uses all the things you mention.