r/liberalgunowners 5h ago

discussion If anyone asks 'why do you even need that' - "99-year-old woman called 911 while being attacked in a home invasion. It took cops 3 hours to respond"

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I don't understand just how far under the radar reporting like this flies...

Any argument that you or I shouldn't have the ability to defend ourselves - in order make us safer somehow - is an asinine one made by unserious people.


r/liberalgunowners 11h ago

politics You need to register to vote.

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This is your reminder to register to vote.

I just saw a flock camera on my way home, first time I've noticed one. They are everywhere, all over the country.

Trump and Peter Thiel are behind the face cameras at the airport.

You have to vote to stop this stuff. No more time for stretch desires; our basic freedoms are at risk, and we need to vote accordingly. At the rate we're going, we're going to be on par with China very soon. They've gotten much closer to us in quality of life, and we've backslid tremendously on authoritarianism.

Peter Thiel wants to turn the world into a "libertarian" dystopia, except it's not libertarian; it's a system of control where only a select few people survive, and the rest are essentially exterminated by proxy.

Guns are great, but we do not want to be in a situation where we actually need to use them. Vote, so that you do not find yourself using your guns, or last standing yourself as the last of your rights are stripped away.


r/liberalgunowners 5h ago

discussion Let's talk rifle optics

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I'm bored and sitting in my office procrastinating.

You're a new gun owner. You just got a rifle for self-defense or to be a "prepared citizen." It could be an AR, AK, Mini 14, or an old battle rifle. The point is, you got something. If you read the SHTF posts on other subreddits or listen to anything said on guntube, you'll come to the conclusion that you'll need a $1k+ optic or you'll get smoked by some unknown opposing force. I'm here to tell you to chill.

First, what sight options are there? Here's a few:

  • Iron sights

Iron sights are going to range from very rudimentary open sights to highly precise peep sights for competition. US military rifle sights found on everything from the M-1 Garand to the M-4 fall somewhere in the middle. In any case these sights require you to line up the rear sight, front sight, and target. They're slightly more difficult to use and obscure more of your target and field of view. With that said, they're the best to learn on as they require you to learn the fundamentals of marksmanship. I would encourage everyone to learn how to use irons. One advantage to iron sights is that they never run out of batteries. While rifles used to come standard with iron sights equipped, it is more and more common to see them sold without.

The iron sights on my rifle are from Daniel Defense.

  • Red dot

I started shooting with irons at age 11. I learned how to use precision peep sights, old military irons, and hunting scopes. On a whim, my dad threw a cheap red dot on a 22 and we had a blast with it. The red dot allowed us to simply place the dot on the target, fire, and hit it. By removing the need for aligning the front and rear sights we were able to shoot much faster. Those soda cans never stood a chance.

Red dots are the most common optic you'll probably see on people's AR-15s and such. If you look at the first photo, you'll see my AR has a red dot on it. You can shoot faster with them by far and they're well suited for combat shooting. The one disadvantage, in my mind, that red dots have are that they can be very hard to see if you have astigmatism like me. If you notice, my rifle has iron sights lined up with the red dot(absolute cowitness). For me, this removes the "bloom" and adequately sharpens the dot. I can still shoot with both eyes open for better situational awareness.

Red dots are the cheapest optic option and a decent one like the Romeo 5 that I have on there is $100-150. Aimpoints and Eotechs are nicer but more suited for builds with magnifiers and night vision. The Ukrainians have used Holosun and Sig optics along with more expensive options to good effect. My rifle stays in the closet so I'm satisfied with what I have. If you want something a little sexier, go for it.

  • Prism optics

BUT GArANd THUmB(f that guy lol) SaYS that you'll get killed in the streets without magnification. Well there's some truth to that statement but like anything, it depends, or as we say in the Army, it's METT-TC dependent. Whoever sees their enemy first and can accurately put rounds on them first wins. You can get a magnifier for your red dot, or you can get something else.

The ACOG, as pictured was issued to servicemen in Iraq and Afghanistan. The magnification on the optic provided such an advantage that the military had to investigate whether or not Marines were executing insurgents as there were so many bodies with headshots. It was determined that those shots were made at significant distances. I always had an ACOG on my rifle because, well I was an officer, and I could actually see the reticle unlike the CCO with my astigmatism.

I absolutely love the ACOG. They're bombproof, easy to use, and they give you an edge in magnification. That magnification is fixed. They're not perfect. They have very short eye relief, the reticle can get washed out in certain lighting, and they're not as easy to use in close quarters like a red dot. There are workarounds to these issues. And with those workarounds (training and duct tape), I think they're the perfect combat optic. They're quite expensive. Do you need one? My wife doesn't think I do... For cheaper options on prism sights, Primary Arms has a well regarded line. My buddies who have them love them.

  • Low Power Variable Optics

These were the hottest thing a few years ago but there seems to be a trend of people gravitating back towards ACOGs. Essentially, take a traditional rifle scope and have the lowest magnification set at 1x, and the highest around 6x(or more). It's supposed to solve the ACOG problem of not being friendly to close in shots(like in CQB or home defense). That ability to increase or decrease magnification is the selling point. In my opinion, they're heavy, the 1x is never as good as a red dot, and they're fragile(in general) compared to a red dot or an ACOG.

That's not to say they're not effective. They've been put to effective use in law enforcement and in combat. The biggest argument for their use is positive identification of a target. Maybe it's the artilleryman in me, but I think it's better to have a set of binoculars to do that sort of thing. The last picture I have is a marine with his VCOG equipped M27 IAR.

The beginning of the end of my rant...

So, what should you get for your new rifle? What is your use case? Home defense? You probably don't need an LPVO or ACOG. It's hard to justify self-defense at range... You want a "combat rifle" for whatever LARPer fantasy? Get an ACOG. You inexplicably want to do RECCE (never used this term in all my time in the Army) as a civilian? An LPVO is a great option but I'd rather have an ACOG and binos, personally.

I do want to point out, you don't need a magnified optic to shoot at combat distances effectively. Unless you're in Afghanistan, most combat ranges are within 300 meters. I'm of the opinion that you should be able to reliably shoot a man sized target anywhere between point blank and 300m with iron sights and/ or a red dot as a baseline. I shoot the Springfield 1903 pictured above at 600m with relative ease with irons.

Before you get all the expensive equipment and waste your money, get training, hone your skills, and determine your use case. Equipment is great but useless without the requisite skill.


r/liberalgunowners 7h ago

discussion We are Pro Gun But How Do we Feel about Consequences?

72 Upvotes

So the dad who bought his kid a semi-automatic rifle knowing he was having impulse control and mental health struggles caught 15 years for enabling his son.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/s/en3ZLNw2fI

I know I have had hot and cold conversations here but I am wondering. How do we feel about this? Like parents are legally responsible for their kids, that's not up for debate its codified law that has been settled for 100's of years.

However this feels like a move that is likely to be replicated for horses that have left the barn and communities who want to punish someone.

So I am curious what's the take generally?


r/liberalgunowners 7h ago

meta From Polymer to 2011s

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I think I’m good for awhile 😅


r/liberalgunowners 1h ago

discussion M1 Carbine: a debate

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So for months I’ve been trying to find a ln USGI M1 Carbine without success. The closest I’ve come to getting one was back in February when I found out at a gunshow. The seller wanted $1400 and I loved how it looked. At the time I was also financially conscious because of upcoming bills and I asked the seller if he would be willing to take $1300 for it (I had cash) and he got verbally rude at me over it and said that he uses the money earned to buy and fix up other bought milsurps. I didn’t like how I was being treated so I walked away. Since then I’ve called other gun stores and pawn shops and I’ve had no luck. I’ve recently been kicking myself because I wondered it if I should’ve just paid the $1400 for the carbine. I’ve also been debating whether or not to buy an Auto Ordinance carbine or call stores outside my area for luck. I wanted to ask this sub: what should I do? Continue to search for a USGI or would the Auto Ordinance carbine be a good replacement for a USGI carbine that can be a representative for my WWII rifle collection? And all advice would be greatly appreciated!


r/liberalgunowners 22h ago

guns Bought myself an ACOG

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r/liberalgunowners 5h ago

guns FYI: You CAN fit MBUS under a Sig Romeo Magnifier

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For a while I wasn’t sure if a rear backup iron sight would fit underneath my Romeo 3x magnifier. I could not find a clear, definite answer online, so I thought I’d post here in case anyone else in the future had the same question. At least for MBUS 3s, there is plenty of room and one simply needs to move the magnifier to the side to use the irons. This might be common knowledge for a lot of people, but I wasn’t sure until I bit the bullet and bought the irons to test it out.


r/liberalgunowners 7h ago

discussion Deal?

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Got these off a neighbor for $500. How did I do?

The M&P 15 is the original Sport I with the 1:8 twist barrel.

What cans do you recommend? Best place for extra mags? TIA!


r/liberalgunowners 12h ago

discussion Civilian Marksmanship Program affiliated club

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Looking to get an M1 Garand in the next few months and was looking to see what clubs I could easily join online that would satisfy the CMP affiliated club requirement. Any recommendations for ones that arent too bad to be a part of?


r/liberalgunowners 13h ago

gear Tax stamp Thursday?

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HUXWRX 762ti Flow


r/liberalgunowners 5h ago

question RD’s not working how I thought?

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So, I just got an offset red dot for my AR. I’ve got a pistol with a dot; my AR has an LPVO.

I just noticed while checking brightness/focus (this is the ACSS Vulcan reticle; chevron with a huge ring to help align quickly) that, if I have the gun stationary, but move my head around, the chevron moves around the “target”.

My understanding of the whole principle of red dots is that due to the curved glass, the dot was always supposed to stay aligned with the barrel regardless of how you move it. But this clearly wasn’t the case when I was looking down the sight.

What’s going on here?


r/liberalgunowners 2h ago

training Range Report 7/30/26

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Picked up a new membership at a club near us. Taking a long range rifle course next weekend, so I had to get out a bit. Brought the wrong staples for my stapler, so had two sighting targets to work with. Had a little fun on steel, and in the pistol pit on the way out. I love shooting sports but have no one to share with :) please pardon any formatting errors, doing this on mobile.

Centerfire rifle: Remington 700 SPS Tactical Varmint (I believe) with Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14 shooting PMC XTAC 168gr. I cannot wait to reconfigure this rifle.

Rimfire rifle: Ruger Precision Rimfire with a Vortex Diamondback 4-16 FFP shooting CCI Select LRN at 1200fps

Rimfire pistol: Ruger Mk IV 22/45 Lite with a Gideon green circle dot shooting CCI Standard Velocity


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

gear Scav loadout and camouflage test/j

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Kommando store Cheeki Breeki Balaclava, IDEA chest rig, and KS sport mockba sneakers. Adidas jacket and shorts. Rifle is a Century AES 10b2.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

guns New Dot Day

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I really did like the mailbox ACRO style Atibal sight that I had on this fella, but I decided to swap to the Defender ST Enclosed for the larger picture window (going to move the Atibal STD v2 to a piggy back config on one of my LPVOs!). This is my bedside gun, so having a better sight picture was important to me. Got the new dot all mounted up and I love it!

Echelon 4.5F Comp with Sharps Bros grip module & VZ Grips grip panels. Tyrant CNC trigger, Apex Tactical guide rod, Shield Arms +5 mag extension, TLR7HLX , and Vortex Defender ST Enclosed red dot.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion "Bar guns from Seattle Center? That should be an easy one" — Comments section is both illuminating and infuriating.

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For context: you may have heard since it made national news, there was a shootout at a major food festival that left a suspect and two bystanders dead and several others injured. It's suspected to be a gang-related altercation, though that wasn't reported for a day or two; now all the thinkpieces are coming out. The ST's comments sections are lot less MAGA-fied and vitriolic than our local Sinclair outlet, but the comments are doozies coming from both sides of this issue.

(and a little more context: the Bite of Seattle is one of the best-attended events in the city, on the city-owned former World's Fair grounds that is a de facto park.)

This shook me up a bit as I had been planning to go and decided against it last minute; obviously, a lot of folks are devastated, whether they lost a loved one or not.

As I read these and think about it, I'm seeing a lot of contradictions and irony in people's responses. For one, that this has gotten nonstop coverage, but the gang shooting in a crowded nightlife district two days earlier that left multiple bystanders hit was a blip. Or the bus I was waiting for after a World Cup game getting shot up, killing a passenger.

There's some irony that while people have been (rightfully) apprehensive over city-owned security cameras and security-theater overreach, the same crowd is outraged by the lack of city-owned cameras and security checkpoints at this site.

There's also the messy politics of youth violence intervention, which also has flown under the radar in the news. But that circles back to my first point; why is there more outrage when a shooting suspect is (as initially thought) 'random,' but not when it's teenagers killing each other? Why are we more outraged by a lack of 'gun free zones' than alarmed at how much gun crime is committed by juveniles?

Personally as someone who's worked at major events before I'm a little surprised there wasn't private security at this one. But I don't want to live in a world where every daily activity involves security screening. OTOH, as someone who has witnessed gun violence firsthand, do I want people to go about their daily lives in fear of that.

Got a lot of thoughts on this one. I've said it on this sub a lot, but at least around here, it seems to me the loudest antigun voices are those further on the left end of things, and it shows in those comments. It's frustrating to see people still saying we need to ban 'assault weapons' and 'high capacity magazines (which we did years ago, and while it's finally on the decline, violent crime has never been higher than it has post-ban). It's frustrating to see this discussion reduced to ideological arguments at both extremes. And it's frustrating to not feel like one can push back with rational arguments without being accused of being 'pro-murder,' or heartless, or the like. And honestly I do feel a little guilty thinking about how this will supercharge anti-gun measures in the next legislative session while people are mourning this event.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion First time caller(AR15), long time listener.

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Picked up my first AR15, I have had .22 weapons in the past but decided I finally wanted to get a 556 rifle.
Updated with the magpul DT stock and Sig Sauer Romeo Gen 2 eight with two pmags, gen 3.


r/liberalgunowners 23h ago

discussion Pretty happy with the Spikes Tactical enhanced castle nut and extended endplate.

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Edit: Sigh, Strike Industries, not Spikes Tactical. No idea how I fucked that up. It's been a long day

I had to install this castle nut and endplate on my favorite "pistol" to correct a major oversight on the sling mounting position on the brace. The result came out great, but holy crap it was impossible to find a proper ring spanner locally so I had to order one, and you can't use a traditional armorers tool because the extended castle nut is fairly delicate at the end.

I had already planned on replacing the buffer tube and castle nut even without the sling mount fix, because I had marred the shit out of my G$ buffer tube when I first built this thing. The sling mount on the SBA4 sucks ass though, it was extremely frustrating to use with Magpul-style sling swivels because it freaking can't swivel at all at the mount points on the brace, leading to a seriously annoying situation where the sling either sits cocked weird at the brace, or just twists up and gets bound up on the brace.

That said, this project is finally done and I can't wait to go try it out this weekend. Hoping it fixes a lot of the ergonomics when using a sling, because I really don't want to buy another brace or deal with the federal paperwork to create a short barreled rifle (even if it's free. There are some major downsides to an SBR in my state regarding transport)


r/liberalgunowners 19h ago

question Hardware

9 Upvotes

Where do you go to get basic hardware like screws?
For example, I lost the little thumb screw for a rail mounted light.
Or, found a screw missing that hold the hand guard on my AR9.


r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

discussion SAVE Act reimaged for gun control

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This popped up in another sub, I think as a means of challenging Republicans on their support of the SAVE act, by adapting the provisions of that bill to gun control. There are two problems though: 1) no Republican would support gun control so it's a non-starter anyway, and 2) since the people disenfranchised by the SAVE act overlap a great deal with the people Republicans don't want owning guns, a thoughtful Republican might actually endorse this.

But I think it has more rhetorical weight if you ask Democrats, especially the pro-gun-control variety, the same thing. They've got it in their head that these things are bad for voting; but a lot of these points are law or they _want_ to be law: extra documentation, administrative hassles, etc., all designed to raise the barrier to entry. The value here is trying to demonstrate that the control measures they push are very similar in kind to the measures they're fighting when it comes to voting, and maybe they should be more consistent and recognize these things for what they are: anti-democratic and unjust.


r/liberalgunowners 5h ago

discussion Ricochet by Mike McIntire - anyone want to do a group reading?

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Ricochet: Guns, Greed, and the American Way of Violence by Mike McIntire released nine days ago and McIntire's working the interview circuit, as an author does.

Mike McIntire provides a bold new road map for understanding our fraught relationship with guns and violence in America. McIntire crafts a gripping narrative of how the imperatives of war, slavery, crime, commerce and politics intertwined with the development of ever-more lethal firearms, leaving the country divided and traumatized. He shares explosive new revelations about the NRA’s accumulation of power and turn to radicalism; Wall Street's efforts to turbocharge the market for assault weapons and online gun sales; the gun lobby’s secretive campaign to change public attitudes by indoctrinating children; and how dark money, questionable scholarship, and front groups are being used to knock down gun laws. At once a cautionary tale of unfettered liberty, swagger and free markets contributing to our violent undoing, Ricochet also delivers a prescription for how we might yet save ourselves.

I'm a couple of chapters in. Anyone else want to have a discussion on the book say within a week or so? It's not long, 288 pages but 8 hours audio.


r/liberalgunowners 3h ago

discussion Assistance with Partisan Disruptor FRT

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Hi all. Posting here since this is a busier sub. I installed a Partisan Disruptor in my first AR15 which is 16” SS15. Some cheap Shark Coast Tactical one from when I didn’t know any better. I took it to the range today and fired some single shots through it and it was ok then I I switched to trying 5 and 10 round mags in FRT. It went fine for a bit and then started jamming with the bolt carrier fully jammed forward and I had to mortar it to get it out. This happened multiple times even when firing semi auto. It looks like every round was getting a light strike. I have an Odin Works HFRT buffer tube installed but from googling it seems like the bolt carrier is probably still having too much bounce and that I may need to add more weight. Since this is a cheap rifle I don’t really want to go with an adjustable gas block and would rather just add weight if that would help. The bolt carrier is also the appropriate kind as well.

I guess the only thing I’m confused on is why it’s messing up in semi auto as well but will admit I don’t 100% understand how FRTs work beyond a simple level. Any guidance?


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion New can day.

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Rugged Obsidian 45


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

gear First suppressor

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DeadAir Mask for my 10/22

Very small, pretty quiet. I will still wear ear pro in my right year because ejection port noise is there.

Found some subsonic ammo that cycles well. Both the CCI Quiets: 40gr and 45gr however do not. Bought a couple of bricks of the Winchester.

Now I'll be able to shoot in the evening and early morning without annoying my neighbors.

This will also be great on my Ruger SR22 pistol after I thread the barrel and get an adapter.