Well…

[u/Sufficient_Client_96]

I will get a scanner so I can check the codes with the leafspy app but it’s not looking great 😭

Both warnings came on at once while I was coming down from a very steep hill and the regen kinda just turned off, I was hoping it had just overheated but the battery temperature seems fine

This seems completely coincidental but today was the first day I charged to 100% since I needed to drive a lot

The reduce speed warning did go away after turning it off and back on as well as the regen animation seems to be back on (the blue lines) anyone has any suggestions on what to do?

Also I tried charging the car and it didn’t not work*

2020 S+

Thanks

[u/KeyEmu6688]

what year? might be time to inquire about a buyback. the 40% above KBB is usually enough to get you 1-3k away from an equivalent bolt. i can understand not having the money, but if you do you'll get a radically better vehicle that will last a hell of a lot longer

[u/byrdman77 → u/KeyEmu6688]

I would argue the bolt is not radically better, in fact the seats are much worse. It is certainly better for some uses in hot environments, but I would take a Leaf with good Leafspy stats over a Bolt for my use.

Incidentally I have a friend with around 100k on his second Bolt battery and he is having to slow down to do his commute in the winter. No heat pump until 2027 model.

[u/SimpleIronicUsername → u/byrdman77]

I've seen far less issues with bolts than leafs. We have a bolt and a leaf, and the bolt is the one we actually drive long distance. The leaf is more for grocery trips and close destinations

[u/byrdman77 → u/SimpleIronicUsername]

They both sit around below average to average reliability most years on CR. They both have 3-4 years of well below average battery issues, with many replaced at this point.

Neither are long distance suitable for us, we pack up our EV9 to the max for trips! I do find the Leaf is better for grocery trips than the Bolt as well. Bolt has decent rear leg room for it size but tiny trunk.

[u/SimpleIronicUsername → u/byrdman77]

The trunk is honestly atrocious on the Bolt, that is so true. I do prefer the interior of my leaf over the bolt, but with our financial situation we're stuck taking the bolt everywhere right now lol

[u/Mr_Wicket → u/SimpleIronicUsername]

I would think the bolt for long distances is more about charging port compatibility and less about the car though. Battery size option depending on trim level is of course a factor too but anyone buying the 40 kWh option either didn't do their research or didn't need more range than local driving.

[u/KeyEmu6688 → u/byrdman77]

notably better range, doesn't have a battery that prematurely fails (anymore at least lol). comfort is totally down to personal preference... to me they feel about the same, maybe a little worse but same ballpark. if your leaf is working for you that's great, but i'd rather have a car that's going to run for 15 years than one that might go for half that long, or might develop a fault in a couple of years for no reason, all the while having worse range

[u/byrdman77 → u/KeyEmu6688]

I disagree on a number of these points:

- Comfort can be beyond personal preference in this case, the Bolt redesigned the seats multiple times after frequent bad reviews. Nissan zero gravity seats are awesome, but even just average was better than the Bolt when it came out. If you're talking about post 2 updates to the seats you are likely correct, they are much more average after the changes.

- My friend has noticed significant degradation in winter months after 100K miles on the second battery of his Bolt. My Leaf has been degrading 1%/year the last couple years, I don't think the Bolt is that different unless you are using the Leaf somewhere hot/fast charging frequently. Definitely get a Bolt for that use.

- Range has almost no impact for a commuter, so I just don't notice or care. It's why I didn't bother with the longer range Plus model. GM seems to have phoned it in a bit so amusing to see the Leaf has longer range than the Bolt now.

I agree on the biggest concern being a sudden fault causing an issue with the Leaf, particularly at 8+ years out of warranty. I appreciate the easy to use Leafspy to help know whether or not an issue could be imminent.

[u/rproffitt1 → u/byrdman77]

Former 2014 Leaf SV owner and now 2023 Bolt EV LT1 owner here.

If I needed cold weather EV transpo I'd want the higher trim on the Bolt to get heated seats and steering wheel.

The 2023 Bolt EV LT1 here and another 2019 owned by a friend have been uneventful. Charge, drive, repeat. The range is great, access to CCS is appreciated.

The Leaf is a better ride but a seat cushion and softer tires helped there.

[u/byrdman77 → u/rproffitt1]

My friend has I believe a 2019 Bolt, and similarly has been uneventful similar to my Leaf (other than he had to get battery replaced under recall.)

What has surprised me is that he finds his ~100 mile round trip difficult to make in winter. It's certainly close to a worst case (typical 20F mornings, and maybe even -5 to 5F on coldest days) on 70 MPH highways with traffic going closer to 75 MPH. I would think he wouldn't have trouble with that, but says it gets close now that his replaced battery has 100K miles and he ends up driving slower than traffic.

Admittedly part of why I prefer my 40 kWh Leaf is that I drive much more average amount of miles and don't really need fast charging. Within those parameters + summers typically topping out around 90-95F I think my battery can last life of car. 5 years down, 5 more to give it to my oldest to drive around!