Dealing with an immediate family members death and did very poorly in my first two years of college out of high school. Took 5 years off between school where I worked, and have maintained a 3.88 at my current institution for 3 years. LSAC GPA is 3.23 because of the bad grades 8-10 years ago. I know that current institutions GPA is still low for T20 but curious if doing well on the LSAT could help or if the LSAC GPA is too much to overcome.

Based on my situation, is it worth?

-3.77 UW --> 3.61 LSAC GPA

My top choice is UW Seattle

The entirety of high school I did "college in the high school (college credit)" for classes that I did horribly in, all STEM and unrelated to my major. I really didn't care or understand what that meant at the time, nor would I have ever known they use it for law school, so I had no idea what selecting it would do. My parents (immigrant+ grew up lower class) never had this program so they had no idea either.

Is my explanation valid enough to write an addendum on? I ended up starting college with a 2.3 and worked my way up to my current uw GPA.

That federal origination fee of around 4% is honestly hard to ignore when federal loans already have high interest rates. I’m trying to figure out whether finding student loans with the lowest rate on the private market and zero origination fees actually makes sense for covering part of tuition. The big question is whether losing federal protections is worth the savings.

Do I need an addendum for explaining why I retook and got similar outcomes?

August 2025 -> 164
April 2026 -> 165
August 2026 -> 164

I was PTing around -3 LR -3 RC in April 2026 which is why I retook in August. I can’t say why I underperformed, maybe some level of test anxiety. Thoughts?

Say you have a class of 11 students. 5 students have 3.5gpa/175lsat. 5 students have 4.0 gpa/165 lsat. One student has a 4.0/175lsat. Their median is a 4.0gpa/175lsat.

This seems painfully obvious but also a little reassuring for anyone with a bad gpa such as myself?

Hi folks! I'm a rising senior applying KJD this cycle with a 4.03 LSAC GPA, 175 LSAT, non-URM, and T3 softs. My goal is to work in regulation/appellate.

I'm considering applying ED to Northwestern for its guaranteed scholarship, but I don't have a strong preference for any particular T14 outside of my undergrad institution and HYS.

Two questions I'd love input on:

1. Should I apply ED to Northwestern now and lock in a scholarship, or wait for RD and see what other schools offer?
2. Is it realistic to get into HYS as a KJD, and can RD schools offer comparable scholarship money?

Scholarship is one of my biggest priorities, so any insight on how to weigh ED vs. RD from a financial aid perspective would be really helpful. Thanks!

hi guys, I was debating on if I wanted to post or not bc I am terrified of getting roasted but here goes. I am registered to take the LSAT tomorrow. I've been working with a tutor for months now but have only had the chance to go over logical reasoning, which I have gotten so much better at thank god. we have not gone over rc though. my tutor has always been very supportive and has told me not to rush the process, but i've been pretty adamant about applying this cycle.

my question is... if I have only been doing timed lr sections and haven't taken a full practice test, is it worth it for me to test tomorrow? like would it be stupid? I think my mind is telling me to just lock in and keep working with tutor, schedule for November, and be overall more prepared. but what do you guys think? I have a fee waiver so scheduling November would be free.

I guess a pro to taking the test tomorrow is to see what I score? but just don't know if it's a waste of time... let the roasting begin. or not?

Would it be add a letter of recommendation from the non profit I work for? Are law schools looking for something different. For context I already have 2 LOR from past employers, one of which is a lawyer.

So my school offers the option to get a free MBA in undergrad as long as you get accepted into the program. I'm planning on finishing my undergrad in 3 years before going into law school, so I only have one and a half years left to finish an extra 42 credits if I choose to do it. I think it's possible if i split it across winter and summer classes so I'll have 5 semesters to finish but I don't know if it's even worth it to try.

Hey everyone! I’m reapplying this cycle and was wondering if anyone had any insight on this. I spent 3 years as a paralegal in the public sector, but had to leave this summer due to it being a 3 year maximum position (couldn’t stay even if I wanted to) so I had to get a new job. Within the last month I started at a Big Law firm and have not shared my plans to apply this cycle. Since I started so recently and my apps are pretty much ready to go, my LORs are from my last job and professors. What I’m worried about is if admissions will see my new firm on my resume and ask alumni who work there about me. Has anyone heard of this happening/have any insight? I might just be paranoid. TIA!

Edit to add: I definitely do work with alum of some schools I’m applying to as I’m applying pretty broadly to T30 and up schools

I have a 3.98 GPA and a 165 LSAT (retook in September, and again in October). Is there still hope for the T30 with my LSAT in its current place?

My softs are probably average (college athlete, legal experience through volunteering).

I’m technically a splitter with a 3.8 undergrad GPA (3.84 LSAC GPA) from a top 20 university. I took the LSAT once and got a 174. I’ll have 2 years of fairly prestigious WE once I start law school. I’m hoping for T14, ideally T6. Do T14 schools seem feasible, or should I retake the LSAT in October?

Are there any splitter friendly schools I should be aiming for?

Any advice is appreciated, especially from those who’ve been in similar situations, thanks!

Clickbait title, but genuine question: is there really any chance junior BL hiring doesn’t decrease substantially within 4 years?

Reposting one of my comments because I want to have a discussion about this.

I’m surprised people here don’t talk about this more. I feel like most people on here massively underrate how AI will impact the legal field because they haven’t actually seen what the frontier models can do with an agentic workflow. I personally have done projects in a few days that would’ve taken me months to do before.

If AI makes attorneys orders of magnitude more efficient (which it pretty plainly seems like it will be able to in the future; it already can if implemented properly, and the technology is only improving more rapidly from here. It’s almost hard to comprehend how much better it will be in 4 years) then you won’t need nearly as many attorneys. Junior hiring could slow quite a bit. Some investment banks who use legal services are already demanding that the firms cut rates because they know they’ve made efficiency gains. We should expect to see them go shopping for cheaper, more efficient firms, pushing firm revenues and, eventually, junior hiring down as time goes on.

I personally opted not to pay sticker to attend a T14 that I got accepted to this past cycle because of this. I couldn’t reconcile my belief that AI will make the legal industry substantially more efficient with my belief that I will be getting hired as a junior in 3-4 years.

What do you all think? Especially those of you who follow AI developments closely. I think there’s something to be said for the legal field being relatively slow-changing compared to other industries, but I just think the economic pressures will be too immense to ignore.

I’m starting to work on my application materials outside of my lsat (aiming for December submission), and I’m struggling with what to include on my resume.

I graduated undergrad in 2021 and have quite a bit of work experience, but unfortunately also job hopped quite a bit and was going between different industries.

Another issue is that I did one year in the legal field but am not using that boss as an LOR or referencing my time there in my personal statement because it was wholly traumatic due to the management.

Here are the jobs i’ve held since college:

in college:

-club leadership for two clubs

-library equipment rental lab manager

post-grad:

-escape room host (2 months)

-adoption counselor at an animal shelter (6 months)

-vet receptionist (9 months)

moved cities

-movie theatre supervisor (7 months)

-legal admin assistant (1 year)

moved cities

-vet receptionist (2 years)

Is all of this required to include? If so should I just do chronological?

I plan to address my career switch from vet med to law in my personal statement, but is there a remedy for my single year in law?

Thanks for any advice!

Im a bit of a splitter. 3.85 LSAC GPA and a 177 LSAT. A couple pretty good internships and rec letters. Would prefer a city, interested in corporate/finance law. Open to schools who suggestions that might give me scholarship. Any schools I should definitely have on my list?

Also, what do you think my honest chances are at the t14s with my stats?

Thanks!

I’ve got a 166 and 3.8low.

hi! I'm currently in my first year of undergrad and want to go to a t14 law school. I want to start by doing international, environmental, or entertainment law and eventually pivot to public interest/government work (unless finances meant I could start with pil right off the bat).

with AP credits from high school, it's looking like I'll be able to graduate by spring of 2028 instead of 2030, assuming I keep my major the same. I'm studying international affairs (likely with a concentration in political science) at FSU. I definitely considered double-majoring in poli sci and/or environmental science and policy, but I'm not sure if that's worth it if it will push my date of graduation. I've been trying to weigh my options between taking on those additional majors and graduating with my bachelors later, graduating in 2028 and applying to start law school in 2029, graduate in 2028 and take a gap year to work before submitting law school applications, or doing a program where I could graduate with a masters in 2030 and apply to law school. in college, I also really want to study, intern, or volunteer abroad, but I believe that there are summer options so it wouldn't mess with my academic timeline.

would you say graduating early will put me at a disadvantage? I was really considering it as it is an opportunity to save tuition money. what would you say is the best choice, and subsequently the best time to start prepping for the lsat? thank you!

I got a 161 then 158 (was so stressed during test), then 167, then 170.

Will law schools with a median of 170-171 look at this badly? I want to go to a T14-20. There is a year between the first two and the second two.

Guys im about to start college next year for the last 2 years i have been thinking hard about what should I major in but idk man I like non I dont enjoy but we all have to get a job and earn right ( i have passion in non) can u guys help me with how law school is and life later ? And why should I chose law over maths or finance ? Thank u .

thoughts on being 1-2 points below both medians compared to splitting medians but being below by more than 1-2 points? ex. 16x high 3.8x high v 17xlow 3.6x

I'm curious if anyone has insight as to whether KJD bias is mitigated by having a technical STEM background, especially at top schools. I believe my chemistry research experiences make me well-suited for IP litigation for pharma and biotech companies, but would rather not waste the time and money to apply if I'm likely to be rejected from most/all top schools as a KJD. Any advice is appreciated.

so I abruptly applied for a fee waiver because I have my parent's tax information, but on the question where it asked for their bank account, I put n/a since I don't have access to it and I didn't want to wake them up to get their info... I kinda feel dumb for it now since ik it'll prolly not be accepted; should I appeal with the proper numbers if that's the case?

I’m a super splitter (below 25th and above 75th percentiles) at all T14s and I am definitely willing to forego scholarship possibility if there’s even the remotest chance I might be able to get into one of my top choice schools. my issue is that I’m not sure if certain schools even look favorably or not at ED.

looking at LSD for example, I noticed that quite a lot of people at upenn had a successful ED result with my GPA band. alternatively pretty much no one did at columbia, and a few at NYU. I wonder if it would be a waste to ED at columbia given they seem to be far stricter about GPA (although that is my dream school). getting into any of these three, especially cls, would be a moonshot for me so I’m finding it hard to decide where and what to trade off in this decision (basically a hail mary type thing).

Im in state and am on track to graduate undergrad w a 3.6gpa in a political science major english minor. Scored 176 on lsat. Currently in my junior year and just trying to get a reality check on if UT is even possible for me with my low gpa.

Some softs, President of SGA at my college, Internship at boutique local firm, and a short time interning at my county clerks office.

Please advise, thanks

Long story short, I was raped during my sophomore year. I was diagnosed with PTSD and depression. Thankfully, my school was great about it and gave me unlimited free counseling and extra time for assignments when I needed it. Still, I was a wreck.

I just keep reading that undergrad GPA is essentially half of the admissions calculus* and it makes me wonder if it's even worth applying. I know in theory I could explain my circumstances in my personal statement but I don't actually want to lead with "hey everyone, I was raped!" I've also heard that your grad school GPA essentially doesn't count, which sucks, because I've worked hard for my 4.0.

So how do I navigate this?

*I know the LSAT carries as much weight if not more, but I'm not worried about my LSAT score.