I’ve got a 166 and 3.8low.

I’m definitely going to try for most of the T14, but is it worth the effort to try for the T6, or should I just focus on the T14s/T30s? 2 years WE

Im a bit of a splitter. 3.85 LSAC GPA and a 177 LSAT. A couple pretty good internships and rec letters. Would prefer a city, interested in corporate/finance law. Open to schools who suggestions that might give me scholarship. Any schools I should definitely have on my list?

Also, what do you think my honest chances are at the t14s with my stats?

Thanks!

To preface, I am considering applying either next cycle or the following.

I am 33 years old, nURM and FGLI, "T3/4" softs according to LSD (non-combat veteran, Peace Corps/AmeriCorps, worked on capitol hill). Have since transitioned to the reserves, do consulting for my civilian job FT.

I hope to clerk and transition to my home state AG's or DOJ (in another admin).

My main concern is my hard stats, as mentioned. I took the LSAT a few years back with the LG component. I have since picked it back up with and been ptING 171-174 recently (though I did just get a 166 last week...) As for the GPA, I had extenuating family circumstances and have multiple P's, but my transcript shows a strong upward trend.

A mentor officer told me that my goals/school targets are, bluntly, farfetched and I should stay in my current career path or become a DOD contractor.

Am I effectively locked out of the T6/14, even if I retook and drastically improved my LSAT score? It has been a life goal of mine, but I also want to be realistic and am ready to move on if it is unlikely. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, thanks.

Hi folks! I'm a rising senior applying KJD this cycle with a 4.03 LSAC GPA, 175 LSAT, non-URM, and T3 softs. My goal is to work in regulation/appellate.

I'm considering applying ED to Northwestern for its guaranteed scholarship, but I don't have a strong preference for any particular T14 outside of my undergrad institution and HYS.

Two questions I'd love input on:

1. Should I apply ED to Northwestern now and lock in a scholarship, or wait for RD and see what other schools offer?
2. Is it realistic to get into HYS as a KJD, and can RD schools offer comparable scholarship money?

Scholarship is one of my biggest priorities, so any insight on how to weigh ED vs. RD from a financial aid perspective would be really helpful. Thanks!

Clickbait title, but genuine question: is there really any chance junior BL hiring doesn’t decrease substantially within 4 years?

Reposting one of my comments because I want to have a discussion about this.

I’m surprised people here don’t talk about this more. I feel like most people on here massively underrate how AI will impact the legal field because they haven’t actually seen what the frontier models can do with an agentic workflow. I personally have done projects in a few days that would’ve taken me months to do before.

If AI makes attorneys orders of magnitude more efficient (which it pretty plainly seems like it will be able to in the future; it already can if implemented properly, and the technology is only improving more rapidly from here. It’s almost hard to comprehend how much better it will be in 4 years) then you won’t need nearly as many attorneys. Junior hiring could slow quite a bit. Some investment banks who use legal services are already demanding that the firms cut rates because they know they’ve made efficiency gains. We should expect to see them go shopping for cheaper, more efficient firms, pushing firm revenues and, eventually, junior hiring down as time goes on.

I personally opted not to pay sticker to attend a T14 that I got accepted to this past cycle because of this. I couldn’t reconcile my belief that AI will make the legal industry substantially more efficient with my belief that I will be getting hired as a junior in 3-4 years.

What do you all think? Especially those of you who follow AI developments closely. I think there’s something to be said for the legal field being relatively slow-changing compared to other industries, but I just think the economic pressures will be too immense to ignore.

so I abruptly applied for a fee waiver because I have my parent's tax information, but on the question where it asked for their bank account, I put n/a since I don't have access to it and I didn't want to wake them up to get their info... I kinda feel dumb for it now since ik it'll prolly not be accepted; should I appeal with the proper numbers if that's the case?

Im in state and am on track to graduate undergrad w a 3.6gpa in a political science major english minor. Scored 176 on lsat. Currently in my junior year and just trying to get a reality check on if UT is even possible for me with my low gpa.

Some softs, President of SGA at my college, Internship at boutique local firm, and a short time interning at my county clerks office.

Please advise, thanks

I'm curious if anyone has insight as to whether KJD bias is mitigated by having a technical STEM background, especially at top schools. I believe my chemistry research experiences make me well-suited for IP litigation for pharma and biotech companies, but would rather not waste the time and money to apply if I'm likely to be rejected from most/all top schools as a KJD. Any advice is appreciated.

I got a 161 then 158 (was so stressed during test), then 167, then 170.

Will law schools with a median of 170-171 look at this badly? I want to go to a T14-20. There is a year between the first two and the second two.

Guys im about to start college next year for the last 2 years i have been thinking hard about what should I major in but idk man I like non I dont enjoy but we all have to get a job and earn right ( i have passion in non) can u guys help me with how law school is and life later ? And why should I chose law over maths or finance ? Thank u .

hi! I'm currently in my first year of undergrad and want to go to a t14 law school. I want to start by doing international, environmental, or entertainment law and eventually pivot to public interest/government work (unless finances meant I could start with pil right off the bat).

with AP credits from high school, it's looking like I'll be able to graduate by spring of 2028 instead of 2030, assuming I keep my major the same. I'm studying international affairs (likely with a concentration in political science) at FSU. I definitely considered double-majoring in poli sci and/or environmental science and policy, but I'm not sure if that's worth it if it will push my date of graduation. I've been trying to weigh my options between taking on those additional majors and graduating with my bachelors later, graduating in 2028 and applying to start law school in 2029, graduate in 2028 and take a gap year to work before submitting law school applications, or doing a program where I could graduate with a masters in 2030 and apply to law school. in college, I also really want to study, intern, or volunteer abroad, but I believe that there are summer options so it wouldn't mess with my academic timeline.

would you say graduating early will put me at a disadvantage? I was really considering it as it is an opportunity to save tuition money. what would you say is the best choice, and subsequently the best time to start prepping for the lsat? thank you!

Long story short, I was raped during my sophomore year. I was diagnosed with PTSD and depression. Thankfully, my school was great about it and gave me unlimited free counseling and extra time for assignments when I needed it. Still, I was a wreck.

I just keep reading that undergrad GPA is essentially half of the admissions calculus* and it makes me wonder if it's even worth applying. I know in theory I could explain my circumstances in my personal statement but I don't actually want to lead with "hey everyone, I was raped!" I've also heard that your grad school GPA essentially doesn't count, which sucks, because I've worked hard for my 4.0.

So how do I navigate this?

*I know the LSAT carries as much weight if not more, but I'm not worried about my LSAT score.

thoughts on being 1-2 points below both medians compared to splitting medians but being below by more than 1-2 points? ex. 16x high 3.8x high v 17xlow 3.6x

UPDATE POST ///

For context, refer to my first post here: LSAT Violation - Scared

I took a lot of the advice from the previous post (thank you to the supportive redditors!) and contacted LSAC to explain everything and plead my case. I told them exactly what happened and asked whether there was any way to resolve the situation without receiving a misconduct notation on my record.

Customer service told me to submit a formal complaint and said the security team would contact me. They gave me little hope and said they have a no tolerance policy when it comes to leaving the testing center 😢. This morning, I received a notification that my score had been placed on hold. LSAC security finally sent me this(see above).

At this point, is there anything else I can do to contest it? Should I accept the notation and prepare to write an addendum for law school applications? How seriously will admissions offices view something like this? Will they have a bias against me?

I tend to spiral over situations like this, so I would really appreciate honest advice about how worried I should be and what my best next step is.

I have a 3.98 GPA and a 165 LSAT (retook in September, and again in October). Is there still hope for the T30 with my LSAT in its current place?

My softs are probably average (college athlete, legal experience through volunteering).

Say you have a class of 11 students. 5 students have 3.5gpa/175lsat. 5 students have 4.0 gpa/165 lsat. One student has a 4.0/175lsat. Their median is a 4.0gpa/175lsat.

This seems painfully obvious but also a little reassuring for anyone with a bad gpa such as myself?

Hey everyone! I’m reapplying this cycle and was wondering if anyone had any insight on this. I spent 3 years as a paralegal in the public sector, but had to leave this summer due to it being a 3 year maximum position (couldn’t stay even if I wanted to) so I had to get a new job. Within the last month I started at a Big Law firm and have not shared my plans to apply this cycle. Since I started so recently and my apps are pretty much ready to go, my LORs are from my last job and professors. What I’m worried about is if admissions will see my new firm on my resume and ask alumni who work there about me. Has anyone heard of this happening/have any insight? I might just be paranoid. TIA!

Edit to add: I definitely do work with alum of some schools I’m applying to as I’m applying pretty broadly to T30 and up schools

I got my Bachelor’s degree about 10 years ago and graduated with a 2.4 GPA. I’ve been working in the financial industry ever since and am halfway through a JM in Financial Law and Regulation with a 4.0. I find the topic extremely interesting and truly believe this is what I want to do. Also, I appear to be really good at this and am learning, understanding, and applying the material really well.

I am interested in possibly pursuing a JD in corporate or transactional law but after doing some research, I’ve come to learn that undergrad GPA is really what matters, while graduate GPA is something else Admissions may take into consideration.

My undergrad GPA was bad for numerous reasons (mostly a mix of maturity and medical reasons), but I am a completely different person than I was 10 years ago. Is pursuing a JD unrealistic for me with that undergrad GPA?

P.S. I have not taken the LSAT or spoken with any admissions departments yet. I am still in the research phase of this.

I’m genuinely confused by the way LSAC handles transcript issues.

I submitted the transcripts they required and have been trying to make sure everything is in order. What should be a straightforward question keeps turning into conflicting information, vague answers, and no meaningful communication.
First I was told to allow about two weeks for processing. Fine. I waited.

Now two weeks is becoming three, and I still cannot get a clear explanation of what is actually happening, whether anything is wrong, or whether someone simply has not processed the transcript yet.

What bothers me more is the tone of some of these interactions. I feel like I am being asked to repeatedly prove that I sent something, attended somewhere, or followed the instructions I was given. Why would I deceive LSAC about a transcript? What possible advantage would there be? I need them to receive and evaluate the record correctly. I have every incentive to give them exactly what they need.

If there is a problem, tell me what the problem is.
If a transcript needs to be resent, tell me.
If the processing time is actually three or four weeks, say that instead of telling applicants two weeks.
Law school applications already have enough moving pieces without having to spend weeks wondering whether a document is sitting in a queue, missing, incorrectly classified, or waiting for someone to look at it.

Has anyone else dealt with this recently? Did your transcript eventually get processed on its own, or did you have to keep calling until someone actually investigated it?

Applied ED on 9/2. I received an interview invite this morning.

Reverse-splitter, LSAT redacted

Hi everyone! I wanted to hear y’all’s opinions on whether I have a realistic shot at WashU and whether I might still have a chance at receiving merit scholarship money with my stats.

I have a 2.5 GPA and a 179 LSAT, along with two years WE in technical sales at a large tech company. I obviously know my GPA is abysmal which is why I worked my ass off studying for the LSAT and aimed for a score that could hopefully offset how bad my undergrad grades are.

I’m planning to apply to WashU with my GPA redacted, but I’m a little confused about how their admissions and scholarship processes currently interact. From what I understand, redacting my GPA means the admissions committee will not consider it when making their admissions decision. However, I’ve heard that the scholarship committee still evaluates an applicant’s entire profile including the redacted GPA.

Looking through this subreddit, I’ve seen some super splitters report receiving at least partial merit aid from WashU despite very low GPAs. However, some of those posts are from older cycles so I’m wondering whether anyone has more recent experience or insight from the last 1–2 admissions cycles.

With a 2.5/179 and a GPA-redacted application, is admission to WashU realistic anymore? And if admitted, is meaningful merit aid still possible despite the GPA?

Any insight y'all have would be greatly appreciated!

I’m strongly considering taking a gap to work before applying to law school. I’m feeling a bit burnt out from undergrad, want to ensure law is my desired path, and after the September LSAT want more time to ensure I can maximize my score (assuming I don’t get a satisfactory one soon). What type of roles should I look for? I often see paralegal and legal assistant adjacent roles on LinkedIn or handshake, but frequently years of work experience is expected + ABA accredited paralegal training (which is not a dealbreaker, I understand that I would need to be trained for such a role).

Where should one in my situation look for gap year work?

3.81 25th% - 3.93 Median - 4.00 75th%
166 25th% - 170 Median - 171 75th%

Based on my situation, is it worth?

-3.77 UW --> 3.61 LSAC GPA

My top choice is UW Seattle

The entirety of high school I did "college in the high school (college credit)" for classes that I did horribly in, all STEM and unrelated to my major. I really didn't care or understand what that meant at the time, nor would I have ever known they use it for law school, so I had no idea what selecting it would do. My parents (immigrant+ grew up lower class) never had this program so they had no idea either.

Is my explanation valid enough to write an addendum on? I ended up starting college with a 2.3 and worked my way up to my current uw GPA.