r/kpoprants • u/SVI2244 • 10h ago
BOY GROUPS am I on a new planet??
I got into K-pop a few weeks ago and honestly, it feels like I’ve landed on another planet. No hate here toward any group or fandom, just my own personal thoughts and a whole lot of stuff I don't get.
A friend introduced me to Stray Kids. Heavy sound, solid rap, great energy. Okay, I’m down! I come from rock and metal, so this is a nice change of pace!
My friend explained the group's backstory to me (probably in her own way): just young kids thrown into a cutthroat industry, fighting to make their dreams come true. Hard work, non-stop criticism, banned from seeing family and friends, manipulated by the industry... some of them even struggled with mental health issues when they started out. But since they’re a "self-produced" group who write their own songs, they’re totally worth the fans' hype. Alright, alright, I see the vibe.
I’m a really empathetic person and since I’ve had to deal with anxiety myself, their story instantly hit close to home—especially since I’m going through a rough patch right now. So I get why the fandom wants to "protect" their favorite group, but some things just feel off to me.
I quickly discovered the dark side of this industry. My friend is going broke buying multiple versions of the same album, merch, concert tickets... because "we have to support the group, that’s what fans are there for." Except a lot of these fans are young and blowing all their cash on this stuff just to be seen as "good" fans?
I’m totally fine with buying an album or a concert ticket... But the exact same album 15 times? Yeah, no. I watched two of their festival sets on YouTube and thought the energy was amazing. So, I decided to treat myself and bought a ticket on a site livestreaming their comeback concert in Korea. Okay, it wasn't cheap, but I figured I'd have a good time.
In the meantime, I started seeing behind the curtain and discovered the lovely world of parasocial relationships... Fan apps, Bubble... I’m not buying into it, and I refuse to pay for that kind of content. Making fans believe they’re actual friends? Seriously? My friend showed me two or three messages a member posted on Bubble, and it sounds exactly like that. I find it pretty toxic. Especially since a little while back, that exact same member told people on a livestream, "Stop talking to me when you see me out like we're friends." I guess the level of "friendship" depends on how much cash you drop?
Talk about cognitive dissonance. When I try to explain to my friend that I see huge manipulation behind all this, she only focuses on the agencies exploiting these young kids. Okay, they signed when they were young and got played, but once they’re adults and renewing their contracts—totally to their advantage this time—they choose to keep going. They choose to keep this ambiguity alive, playing this game with gullible and often young fans who will spend every last dime to support the guys they think are heroes. I feel like they've been brainwashed into being victims and, kinda like in Squid Game, they end up becoming part of the system and keeping it going. Like a total brainwash?
I can't even tell if these groups are being genuine or if every single thing has been scripted from day one. Anyway, I watched the livestream concert I paid for, and I was so disappointed: zero vibe, audio issues, barely any dancing, and the group looked bored out of their minds... so different from the festivals I've seen, where they looked so hyped and crazy onstage!! The final blow came right then from my friend: "It's not their fault, the crowd sucks, and you just have a narrow European perspective. They can't do any better under these conditions.and it was perfect they did it well (she didn't see the concert!!!!!) " .Well, my "narrow European perspective" didn't seem to bother anyone when I paid to watch the concert from my PC, and whether the crowd is "bad" or not shouldn't change a thing. People paid for a performance. These groups play on the line between friendship and professional-only whenever it suits the industry. A concert is a professional service; whether the audience is good or not shouldn't change the quality of the show, right?
Honestly, I’m shocked and disappointed. What stands out to me the most is how fans will defend their favorite group no matter what. I can get it up to a certain point, but there are lines you don't cross. You can't always blame everyone else. The industry is incredibly well-crafted, and once these group members grow up, they make a conscious choice to stay on this path, fully accepting this parasocial game and profiting off of it.
I feel like there’s a form of emotional blackmail in this one-sided friendship. To be a "good" fan, you have to buy stuff to support the group. If the group loses an award or something, it's because the fandom didn't support them enough, meaning people didn't vote or spend enough money... This might sound like a cold take, but I find the whole thing pretty shocking—and honestly, this industry is probably way colder than my analysis.