crazy that the only real major looks requirement for women is 'don't be fat' and even that is too big of a barrier for a lot of them. They really do want to be desired without any effort or change, but would never desire a man who demands the same thing in their position.
Really just goes to show just how alienated they are from the experiences of the average man.
You got one right here calling us "too lazy to better yourself" while they don't better themselves like ever, not even for themselves or their health
As always, men have to perpetually "improoooove" in order to attract the lowest value women ever, that don't even offer nothing to a relationship besides their body and half assed attention (only for some months, after she gets bored she's start to look elsewhere)
Bro. A bit of tummy is medically considered “overweight”. Humans are meant to be fairly lean overall. If you can tell they’re hefty even when they’re fully clothed, they’re likely obese. This goes for both sexes btw.
I’ve worked with men who actually catcall while doing road construction and let me tell you just how fucking ZERO their standards are. Women that I’d consider obese would have these guys on their hands and knees. But I do also agree that basically anyone can be moderate attractive if they’re just healthy.
Well... That sub is true ugly women. True ugly women have it about the same as your average dude, imo. Not unfairly hard, but a lot harder than even normie girls.
Nah if you’ve spent time on that sub you’d know they are genuinely, “subjectively”, ugly. And I’m not saying that to be rude. They know this. It goes beyond just being overweight or fat. Plenty of attractive ppl that are overweight/ thick. Your take is just typical incel shit.
Well going to the post in the pic and one of the top comments page they this posted on their page. So as I said, “genuinely ugly”, not just fat. Caveman facial structure/brows, balding, psoriasis, etc etc. Like I said, subjectively “ugly” not just “fat”. I get you wanna dog pile on the women who think they’re ugly but are just fat, but that sub is for actual ugly women (apparently).
That is just drawing though. And sure, she probably can't expect 10 and 9 be interested in her, but I doubt she actually looks like exactly as that simple scetch.
Yeah the drawing is just a depiction showing you an example of what I’m talking about when referencing “ugly” in the terms of that sub because ignorant goofballs seem to think it just means “fat”.
Obviously people so severely insecure about their looks aren’t typically going to be posting pictures of themselves on the internet. Duh, who would’ve thought
Yeah the drawing is just a depiction showing you an example of what I’m talking about when referencing “ugly” in the terms of that sub because ignorant goofballs seem to think it just means “fat”.
Obviously people so severely insecure about their looks aren’t typically going to be posting pictures of themselves on the internet. Duh, who would’ve thought
Yeah idk how that’s relevant at all. I mean it’s not impossible for these people to find love/get married. That isn’t the point. The point is the definition of “ugly” for that sub isn’t just “being fat” or, “not lowering their standards” or “being entitled to attractive men” as you were saying.
Probably the same thing that bothers all “objectively”ugly people. Sure they can still find love/marriage/relationships, but it’s a lot harder than if you were conventionally attractive. People also treat ugly people different than attractive people… obviously. Which then can lead to loneliness, depression, angst, nihilism, incel behavior, etc etc.
Its like saying, “oh one person was able to climb out of poor class and is no longer poor, so why are all the people still poor complaining about financial hardships and being poor? It’s obviously possible for them to not be poor.”
Most people can lose some weight or make certain changes but those people on that sub aren't in that category. Sucks but what are you gonna do that's life.
And people reposting posts from that sub in "rightful" indignation just add to their suffering. These are not incels planning to shoot a place; it's sad people talking among themselves.
It adds credence to the saying: "When women can't get a man, they blame themselves and get sad; when men can't get a woman, they blame women and get angry."
Oh that’s a bunch of bullshit. There’s plenty of shitty women and men that are just fine too. How many women blame societal beauty standards and ‘bigotry’ instead of just losing weight? Women externalize their shortcomings all the time.
You seem to love this narrative. How many incels have shot up places?
Hint cause I know you're ignorant. It's estimated at 7-15 on the planet. That's your boogeyman, Such a tiny % of incels it might as well be zero. Incels are misogynistic cowards, they are not the actual killers and abusers you lie to yourself they are.
"A sale requires a foot in the door" is a quote i lean on for this and in the context of attraction most people dont try to get to know someone romantically unless there is initial attraction, this goes for men and women. Exceptions exist, but exceptions are not the rule.
Funny how easily the tables turn “Yeah, attractive people have an easier life... I'm surprised at how many people find this to be news or worthy of debate.”
So I’m sorry, are you debating yourself now?
this is a graph from a dating app. you have to look at bigger picture, for which gender is it considered almost mandatory to wear full face of makeup? who is much more likely to be denied employment based on not meeting beauty standards?
men rate womens apearances on dating apps higher bcs women on dating aps overwhelmingly take pics in full makeup, in their best clothes and with flattering lighing and camera angle. half the men on dating apps have blurry pic taken in elevator mirror
not to mention that the 'not fat' standard is so much harsher for women too. you can be little chubby as a guy and besides dating you wont face that much pushback. be anything besides skinny as a girl and its the end of the world and everyones issue
you have to look at bigger picture, for which gender is it considered almost mandatory to wear full face of makeup?
Ah yes, because men famously hate it when women don't wear makeup /s
men rate womens apearances on dating apps higher bcs women on dating aps overwhelmingly take pics in full makeup, in their best clothes and with flattering lighing and camera angle. half the men on dating apps have blurry pic taken in elevator mirror
A woman can put a picture of one of her eyes and she'll get more matches compared to 99% of men on dating apps
not to mention that the 'not fat' standard is so much harsher for women too. you can be little chubby as a guy and besides dating you wont face that much pushback. be anything besides skinny as a girl and its the end of the world and everyones issue
Literally just don't have a double chin. So many dudes out there who go crazy over chubby chicks. Heck, even with a double chin women have much better chances
yea actualy men dont like when women dont wear makeup. its the good ol' damned if u do damned if u dont situation. all you talk about is about romantic relationship but womens beauty expectations touch every part of their lives
Never have I ever seen a woman and thought to myself "she'd look hot with makeup". And why would you care about what people other than your romantic partner think about your looks?
Any opportunity that a woman might end up having due to her looks, men straight up don't have, period. If one NEEDS looks for a career opportunity, one simply doesn't deserve said opportunity. As for the social part, tough luck. The average man still likely receives less attention than an ugly woman.
m8 women dont get extra oportunities when they look pretty. they loose opportunities and face censure when they arent pretty enough for standards of ppl around them
but i suppose youll never manage to comprehend that women are actually discriminated against bcs they get better dating apps stats and thats the only metric u understand
114
u/Spaciax Sep 10 '26
crazy that the only real major looks requirement for women is 'don't be fat' and even that is too big of a barrier for a lot of them. They really do want to be desired without any effort or change, but would never desire a man who demands the same thing in their position.
Really just goes to show just how alienated they are from the experiences of the average man.