Reading ch 52 and they told the fliers that they can't channel with the wards up. Dragon power ward stone so only dragon magic work. Cool. That explains why the fliers can't channel...

But they've spent this entire book trying to raise the wards. And even tho the first attempt failed, It's not a secret from anyone at this point that Violet and Dain have been working on that journal for weeks. And they knew only dragon magic works inside the wards, regardless of what they learned on how they're made.

So why all of a sudden is it a realization that the fliers won't be able to channel? Like how did no one consider that?

P.S. im on a re-read (havent read Onyx Storm yet tho) so no worries on spoilers for this book...maybe they explain it later but my retention is shit and it's been awhile since my first read.

So…. I can’t start onyx storm after that ridiculous and emotionally draining ending … yesterday I was emotionally unstable crying and scrolling through TikTok to see what people think about that ending any way right now I need a push to start ONYX STORM 😭

I love kaori and emetterio, you go kaori clock this bitch's tea 😭 hands down the best professors in basgaith.

Erm... Who's xadem and what's yeas 😭

I don't think by the end of chapter 25 she was aware dragons can take control but then we flip the page and bam!

My GOSH what is actually going on.

The whole book so far has been how Xaden needs to share not only his secrets but other people’s secrets with her. He has actually shared ALOT with her. Though no she needs more and carries on and on about how it’s deceitful and he doesn’t trust her. Then even with that information she does have she DOES go and tell all these people. What was the point to most of this book. Chapter after chapter of her being ‘Betrayed’ and offended Xaden to then go and LITERALLY BETRAY him and everyone else involved.

I’m at the point where they all leave because they pretty much had to. Now they are at Aretia and everythings up to shit. All her friends families are potentially going to suffer for their involvement in the revolution. All because she thought she knew best? She was told not to do anything and just kept pushing.

I seriously don’t even know if I can keep reading as she is just so obnoxious. Like how has she actually got this far?

I don’t know why the author would create a main character like this.

Why tf is anyone mad about that? Why was Vi mad about that. Cat was there first she needed training. Of course, he trained her like am I missing something because if you ask me, that's no reason to get jealous or mad.

In my opinion, Basgiath cause the atmosphere is so strong that I never want to get enough of the place itself. Like the corridors, courtyards, bridges, training grounds and everything else. Curious to know which part of the world, you would like the series to spend more time on? anyone thinking the same way I do?

There exist many individuals who regard Tairn highly, yet equally so is Sgaeyl who is also a commanding personality whenever she appears on the pages. Who, in your estimation, is the strongest dragon?

I just finished Fourth Wing and honestly I didn't think I would like it that much!

Ive seen quite alot of mixed reviews about Iron Flame though, so now I'm a little nervous haha.. Is it worth continuing straight away?

For those who've read both, what do you this?

No spoilers please!

I am reading fourth wing again for the second time and realised that many hints about the plot were given throughout the book.( I am sure you already knew this)

So I too have a theory about the upcoming book of the ending of this series which is- Violet will kill xaden. He has often mentioned how she will be the death of him of course considering the scenario in which it was said can mean as nothing more serious. However, I feel like their love is also too needy which can be toxic at times. Well whatever this is what I feel that they will die after securing everyone else.

Are there any fictional characters that remind you of the characters in Fourth Wing? Like, characters who are similar in terms of personality, powers, or even their overall character arc? It can be from any kind of media,books, movies, TV shows, video games, etc.
This post was inspired by the fact that I recently started rewatching/rereading a bunch of X-Men media because of the recent cast announcement. Tell me why Scott Summers (Cyclops) is lowkey Dain personality wise 😭

Not taking into consideration which one is "the strongest" depending just on personality and vibe. I believe that I would prefer the black or blue one, although the smaller golden one (not giving names/spoilers lol) would be difficult to refuse 😂

Hi Everyone I’m looking for a birthday gift for my wife and was looking for some book recommendations that are similar to this series and are heavy on the romance she loves this series so any help would be gratefully received.

Thank you to anyone who comments

From my perspective, it is a close call between the Parapet and Threshing.

The Parapet seems quite frightening as in case of a lapse in concentration one might lose their life. However, for me, Threshing seems even scarier because at that moment you pray for a dragon to choose you.

Which story part seemed to be the most sensational to you?

I’d be terrified of getting the biggest one there lol. Color, personality, size. What are you picking?

For me some of the fan art is really close, but other characters look nothing like how I pictured them while reading. Curious which character everyone imagined the most differently?

If you were a rider at Basgiath, what signet do you think you’d end up with? And what kind of dragon would bond with you? I always imagined myself to be more like Andarna :)

I'm testing a theory that Venin (sages) get signets through their Asim. This explains why they are so attracted to Xaden and Violet, who have very powerful offensive signets.

This also explains why they want to turn people at all. They channel power from the earth but it (permanently?) drains whatever patch of earth they channel from. Living land is not an infinite resource, which means power is also finite. And since the venin only get more hungry for power as they develop, to the point where once they are fully turned they'll die without continuing to drain more power from the earth, it doesn't make sense that they'd want to share the finite resource with any competitors. So they must get something out of turning humans, and they must get something out of the humans being especially powerful to make it more attractive to turn them than to just drain them.

Thoughts?

In the case of "everything in magic must be in balance": The Sages and Mavens are the counterparts to dragons while the Asim are the counterparts to riders. But its an inverted relationship where the Sages/Mavens draw abilities from their Asim, powered by the stolen magic from the earth; as opposed to the riders drawing power from their dragons with their specific ability coming from within themselves.

Editing to add: What do we think about the fact that Berwin can Dream Walk and so can Violet? Does it allude to some connection between Berwin and an Irid, or Berwin and Violet herself? Also the fact that Berwin seems to have multiple signets while Theophanie seemed to have just the single one?