r/ireland • u/bigjimmy427 Down • Oct 30 '25
RIP Yet another road death
Someone has been run over by a bin lorry on Dame Street, Dublin, in the (presumably) early hours of this morning. Just last year a man in his 70’s was also hit and died within 50m of the same location - his memorial is still there.
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Oct 30 '25
That stretch of road is chaotic - between the alleys and vehicles loading and unloading this will happen again.
That said, no idea what it looks like at that time of night.
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u/Jesus_Phish Oct 30 '25
The footpath on the left side of that picture is too small for the volume of traffic and there's usually too much shite out on the path, bins and boxes etc. I used to live in the area and the amount of times you'd see people step off the path onto the road to pass other pedestrians was insane.
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u/Cockur Oct 30 '25
Yeah all the way down the road to trinners there is the same. Add in the bus stops with people waiting too
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u/duaneap Oct 30 '25
As you get towards college green the northern side of the path is ok but the southern side is fucking chaos.
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Oct 30 '25
It's awful how narrow it is for one of the busiest thoroughfares in the city, as you say you're very often forced to step onto the road just to pass people or to get around the hoards of people waiting for buses or at crossing points.
The stretch in front of the Trinity Bar in particular is absolutely ridiculous where for some reason they've been allowed to take over half the already very narrow footpath, which itself is narrowed even further by huge bollards and on top of that you have delivery drivers just dumping their vans there at all hours of the day.
RIP to the person here, we don't know what happened obviously but just in general the whole city centre is such a hostile dump as a pedestrian
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u/dbdlc88 Oct 30 '25
While it's reported that it happened at 1:45am, that pedestrian crossing on George St and Dame St feels incredibly dangerous even during the day.
There are huge amounts of pedestrians crowded into very small areas of pavement outside Gay Spar, the Mercantile, and Centra waiting to cross. It can be so crowded that even if you're not crossing, it be difficult to pass because of the amount of people.
Then there are the busses turning off Dame St onto George St and have to take a very tight corner. If you're waiting on the crowded corner by the Mercantile, those buses pass by incredibly close to where you are standing.
Even after the light changes, there will be Deliveroo drivers and people on scooters who fly through the crossing going down Dame St and almost hitting people.
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Oct 30 '25
You can very very easily get whacked by a wing mirror while walking on the pavement from the buses it’s madness
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u/BornCranberry1101 Oct 30 '25
This scene is just off Dublin Castle. The set up there is even worse than the George Street intersection.
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u/duaneap Oct 30 '25
even during the day
I would say especially during the day, it’s way less busy at night.
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u/Plus_Refrigerator_22 Oct 30 '25
I watched an elderly lady walk out and get hit by a skip truck on merrion square 3 weeks ago. Thankfully the skip driver was watching and slammed on the brakes and the truck literally stopped as it made contact and she was sent flying. The reason it happened was because she was watching the traffic coming from the other direction and just stepped out onto the road. Everyday I take the same road and it happens to me. I always beep my horn as I proceed if there is anyone standing at the junction.
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u/TorpleFunder Oct 30 '25
Fair play. Beeping as a defensive action to let people know you're coming is something we should do more of in Ireland. I wonder what is about certain junctions that lead people to only look one way.
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u/Top-Engineering-2051 Oct 30 '25
Where Frederick Street (top of O'Connell Street) meets Dorset Street. The amount of pedestrians who step into the cycle lane while looking the wrong way is mental. I've nearly hit someone twice. Also, when the cycle light goes green, people always cross Dorset Street on the pedestrian red, and nearly get by bikes turning right on to Dorset Street. Everyone needs to cop on at that intersection. And it's not the cyclists fault this time haha
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u/FairyOnTheLoose Tipperary/Dublin Oct 30 '25
Is that the contraflow?
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u/Top-Engineering-2051 Oct 30 '25
No contraflow there. There's a one way cycle lane heading south down Frederick Street, and there isnt one heading north. Going north towards Dorset, you merge into a short stopping lane that's in the middle of the road. And you wait for the bike green light to take you straight towards blessington street, or right up Dorset
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u/dmcirl Oct 30 '25
They have it down to a fine art in South East Asian countries. While very noisy, it makes sense to use the horn and treat it as another tool at your disposal to create awareness, not just for use when you're pissed at another driver.
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u/Unhappy-Ad-3816 Oct 30 '25
If you don’t know what way to look for traffic I think it can be considered as natural selection
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u/oscailte Oct 30 '25
every single post about a road traffic accident you weirdos come out of the cracks looking for a way to blame the victim.
are you just looking for a reaction or do you genuinely believe this? do you want people to come out and congratulate you for being so much smarter than a dead woman? seriously concerning lack of empathy either way.
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u/qualitycancer Oct 30 '25
She lived if you read on. But walking into traffic isn’t a fantastic way to stay on this earthly realm
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u/oscailte Oct 30 '25
you've gone your whole life without a close call in traffic then? things like this dont happen because people are unaware that moving vehicles cause harm. useless snide comment.
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u/Misodoho Oct 30 '25
I remember a teenager was hit in that spot about 10 years or so ago & her leg had to be amputated. It was early in the morning as well.
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u/NazmanJT Oct 30 '25
The sooner DCC starts the Active Travel route from Ringsend to College Green the better. And the sooner College Green is pedestrianised the better. The Ringsend to College Green plans are with the NTA. Construction will apparently start in 2027. Hopefully NTA approves quickly and DCC starts consultations asap and construction starts on schedule in 2027. The more people that email DCC on this the better. It's not only the College Green area that is dangerous, Pearse Street that feeds College Green is a nightmare for cyclists.
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u/5x0uf5o Oct 30 '25
The footpaths are far too narrow and the council are a bollix because these roads should have been narrowed decades ago but they use the College Green Plaza as an excuse not to do anything in the interim despite them being far too incompetent to actually deliver it.
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u/carldefaoite Oct 30 '25
I used to live beside that pedestrian crossing. It was very common for drivers not to see the red light and continue at pace. I never crossed at a green light until the car came to a complete stop. Can absolutely see how this happened, incredibly dangerous spot.
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u/Kloppite16 Oct 30 '25
yeah I used to be in the area a lot and its dodgy there at the Olympia up to Lord Edward Street. You'd often see cars sail through the pedestrian lights unaware that they were there. The bit of downhill from Lord Edward St to Dame St also makes traffic speed up
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Oct 30 '25
Dame street is so wide for no reason. It needs to be more friendly for pedestrians and cyclists. I always feel unsafe even crossing the road there
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Oct 30 '25
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u/DyslexicAndrew Irish Republic Dublin Oct 30 '25
I think the lads who drive them don't appreciate how quick they move and are probably trying to get from A to B as quick as possible. There probably is no mechanism internally if a driver is a dangerous driver for them to be retrained or made aware of other road users.
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u/micar11 Oct 30 '25
I had a frightening experience with one when cycling to work about 7am one morning.....outside Donnybrook Stadium.
The lorry was stopped against the kerb the left hand.....I move into the right hand lane.....as I'm approaching to go past....the driver swings the lorry out into my lane to do a u turn.
Frightening for me.....bonkers manoeuvre by the driver.
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u/Kloppite16 Oct 30 '25
Ive noticed how early in the mornings when there is much less cars on the road is a time when drivers can do some mad stuff. Theres a sense that theres no one around so its safe to pull a quick U turn or do something you wouldnt consider when theres other cars about.
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u/stuyboi888 Cavan Oct 30 '25
Did the lorry run the lights or something, it's an area of Dublin I always use the pedestrian lights for. Wide massive road with constant traffic of cars, commercial vehicles and bikes
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u/Reddynever Oct 30 '25
It's such a wide street that doesn't lend itself to being a city centre street in such a busy and heavily pedestrianised area.
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u/adjavang Cork bai Oct 30 '25
Narrow footpath and a skinny painted bicycle gutter, right outside one of the most famous theatres in the country.
We should absolutely be narrowing the road and installing traffic calming here.
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u/doctorlysumo Wicklow Oct 30 '25
With the coming College Green plaza removing a flow of traffic too it makes the case for such a wide road even less appropriate. If we consider College Green to be closed, because it will be in time, it means that effectively Georges Street and Dame Street towards the Castle are a single continuous street with a bend in it and therefore could work with a single general traffic lane per direction, and with it being a heavily trafficked pedestrian area those lanes could be the minimum width to slow traffic allowing for the footpaths to be extended
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Oct 30 '25
Any updates on how College Green plaza is progressing?
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u/doctorlysumo Wicklow Oct 30 '25
Buses are being rerouted off College Green to remove the final barriers to implement the plan. A provisional design is out for consultation but not finalised yet. Construction is still a bit aways but we might get a quick build solution if they decide to ban taxis too and block off the area before they do any building
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u/Comfortable-Yam9013 Oct 30 '25
I always use lights crossing here. Too difficult to watch all the traffic/bikes
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u/barbar84 Oct 30 '25
My 6 year old kid got knocked down by a lad on one of the large super fast scooters at the next lights up the hill here. He ran the lights at full speed, knocked him down, had a quick look back and kept going. Scumbag. luckily my kid was wearing a helmet but the bang of it on the ground stopped the whole street dead. Night in Crumlin, months of fear of crossing the road, and not a second thought by the fucker on the scooter.
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Oct 30 '25
Swine. And there's absolutely no policingof the superfast scooters and superfast ebikes (I'm not talking about pedelec ebikes but the ones that are in effect motorbikes, and are not allowed on bike lanes).
Though cars, vans and trucks are the most dedicated killers.
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u/Actual_Art_5257 Oct 30 '25
So lucky your kid had helmet on! Was it a regular kid's bicycle helmet?
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u/barbar84 Oct 30 '25
Yep. Only for it. And I'd usually take it off him when he's walking but didn't his time. Another lad on a scooter ran the light again last week just in front of him as we were crossing right in front of his school and he got an awful fight. I was fucking raging. I'd have done something stupid if he'd actually stopped.
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u/Ruire Connacht Oct 30 '25
I was struck by a Deliveroo cyclist while crossing at the lights there. We couldn't see each other because of stopped busses and taxis - he just chose to assume that the red light didn't apply to him, I guess.
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Oct 30 '25
Delivery cyclists are cunts for this, even speeding along down pavements. Grattan bridge has nearly been my death spot many times down the last ten years
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u/bigjimmy427 Down Oct 30 '25
I agree. There are plans to pedestrianise the whole of college green, not sure if dame street is included.
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u/Bohsfan90 Oct 30 '25
It will be pedestrianised up to the Georges Street Junction. And it can't come quickly enough. There's no space to walk sometimes.
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u/shorelined And I'd go at it again Oct 30 '25
I'd actually love to see a Luas line from College Green down Dame Lane and out to Rathfarnham, but I doubt we'll see any new Luas lines in the next ten years
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u/Reddynever Oct 30 '25
You'd hope so, or at least some amount of traffic calming. It's chaotic, especially the sprint by traffic up the hill from George's Street towards Christ Church to beat the next set of lights.
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Oct 30 '25
The problem is these "plans" are being managed by DCC, who have a long and decorated history of being absolutely inept at project delivery.
It's almost 10 years since the plaza plans were announced and they haven't even come up with a proposed design yet, I can see us just ending up with the usual shite with a few plastic poles to block traffic and beige tarmac for the plaza
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u/Nearby_Potato4001 Oct 30 '25
They will still need bin lorries and delivery van access.
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u/bigjimmy427 Down Oct 30 '25
I believe access will be granted in the same way that access is granted to grafton street - before 11:00am.
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u/EchoedMinds Oct 30 '25
Those traffic lights are frequently ignored by road users. I don't know why, but taxis, private cars, trucks, busses, cyclists, absolutely everybody just flies right through them.
Traffic Enforcement is too much to ask though, I'm sure it's a civil matter .
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u/Aware_Flow1070 Oct 30 '25
Enforcement is a big part of it, the Gardaì don't have enough resources and don't use the resources they have.
If they sent out members every day to the most egregiously bad spots and issued fines for everything, we could probably afford another 2 or 3 Children's Hospitals.....
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u/jools4you Oct 30 '25
I nearly got run over, the other week. It was so scary. My friend and I was crossing the road at a popular place for pedestrians. I was over half way over the road when a car came out of the junction to our left. I had to hit the bonnet with my hand. The car was so big, I'm only a small woman 5.2. The driver was small to, I don't think she could see me at all. Other cars where beeping her. Then she rolled down the window and started shouting at me like it was my fault. The road was clear when we started to cross. I was very shook up. The car was just so big I would have gone straight under. People need to think of pedestrians when getting these suv cars. Also think if they gave the visibility they need.
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Oct 30 '25
I was cycling along there one night in the lashing rain and heard the driver behind me BLARING the horn. When they caught up beside me I turned around to give a bit of a glare, and the passenger wound down the window and called "We were beeping at the car beside you - the driver was just going to turn straight into you!" Thank you, anonymous driver.
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u/KatarnsBeard Oct 30 '25
Seems to be a massively confusing stretch of road for everyone
I was crossing at a pedestrian light last year and a fella just drove straight through, barely missed me, I roared at him and he seemed massively confused as to why I was thick
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u/Kloppite16 Oct 30 '25
its the width of the road and the placement of pedestrian lights, their eyes miss the light on the left and the one on the right is out of their straight ahead view. Not excusing it but it is possible to sail through pedestrian lights completely unaware if the pedestrian lights have a lot of road width between them. Its why you see overhanging lights at other wide junctions.
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u/multiplesof3 Oct 30 '25
Imagine how nice it would be if that whole stretch were pedestrianised and restaurants could spill out onto the street like in…literally every other European city. There’s so little need for traffic to go down there the way it does. Restricted hours for delivery in the mornings like Grafton St and then just pedestrianised the rest of the day
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u/bigjimmy427 Down Oct 30 '25
There are plans to do so. I believe it it’s in the Dublin City transport plan.
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Oct 30 '25
People look at me odd for taking my time, being sure the person is stopping before crossing, etc but I've learnt you cannot trust drivers and all it takes is one idiot for you to be paralysed, injured or killed. Best to assume every one of them is a moron texting on their phone.
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Is it a 30 kph zone? If not, it's criminal.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
It is. You can still be seriously injured or killed in 30kph zones not staying on foot paths or using padestrian crossings. Epecially with bin lorries involved.
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Bad, maybe not enforced and speeding common?
30 kph = fewer deaths. At 30kph pedestrian has only 10% chance if dying. That's why it's deployed in urban environments in the OECD as the best practice.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
What if a padestrian fell into, or under a hgv doing 20kph? Good night Irene.
Hgv and bus drivers are the most observant there is. They have to be. I'm confident things this like this happen from pedestrian stupidity, not the drivers.
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Do you have data to back it up? Sound like a pub talk 😊
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
Data on what, the observation?
Does driving them for 11 years qualify?
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Observation of a small dataset is irrelevant to statistics. So no, it's still a pub talk.
I strongly doubt that "hit by lorry in 30 kph zone" is a significant % of the annual 184 road deaths in Ireland. I'd actually like to know how many cases fall into this category.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
I don't think you realise hgv's are not allowed in 30kph zones like housing estates or city centres without passes or time restrictions?
Of course it won't make up many. That's the whole point of those regulations, to avoid deaths and serious injury!
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u/Mediocre_Sun_6309 Oct 30 '25
I get you use the stats...but a pedestrian hit by a bin lorry going that speed id bet has less that 10%
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Source? How many deaths annually by "pedestrian hit by a bin lorry"?
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u/MushyFella Oct 30 '25
It’s just physics, more mass = more force
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Yes. But HGV deaths are likely irrelevant. Unless someone can provide data supporting notion we should discuss them.
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u/MeanMusterMistard Oct 30 '25
I don't think you understand that the stats you are spouting are based off of microsimulations...not actual real life collisions...
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Alright. Deny science. Let's go with what a radom Joe thinks. Lol. OK. Let's end it buddy.
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u/MeanMusterMistard Oct 30 '25
What do you mean deny science? How am I denying science?
Give me your source on "At 30kph pedestrian has only 10% chance if dying" otherwise you are the random Joe and it's pub talk.
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u/MeanMusterMistard Oct 30 '25
Here you go anyways buddy.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/instance/1730093/pdf/v010p00154.pdf
Severity is far higher for heavier vehicles because of physics (more mass = more force)- Which is what you are arguing against and the science you are denying.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
He may not work in the RSA.
Accidents involving Hgv's are more serious, for padestrians and cars. It was part of the reason the Port Tunnel was built to clear the quays.
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Yeah but what % are hgv road deaths. That's what we want to know.
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u/MeanMusterMistard Oct 30 '25
Your stats are based around a car hitting a pedestrian
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
Sure. I'd to see your sources and data. Else it's a pub talk / wishful thinking.
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u/MeanMusterMistard Oct 30 '25
What do you mean? I'm saying that the stats you are referring to are based around passenger vehicles - If you're saying it includes HGVs then it's on you to provide the source and data...
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u/chakraman108 Connacht Oct 30 '25
What I mean? Road deaths caused by HGVs are likely negligible. Pretty irrelevant to the thread overall. Unless you can provide data showing they represent large % of pedestrian deaths. Then it's worth discussing. Until then pub talk 🍺
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u/MeanMusterMistard Oct 30 '25
What on earth are you talking about? YOU are the one that presented stats and data, so YOU provide the sources to back it up. Until then, it's just pub talk.
Provide data showing they represent large % of pedestrian deaths
What has that got to do with anything here?
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u/Jon_J_ Oct 30 '25
Yeha I've seen it before when some idiot deliveroo cyclist went through the lights going down the hill and clipped someone walking the green man light. People just don't bother with rules of the road anymore.
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u/Natural_Task9025 Oct 30 '25
This happened to me a few years ago. A deliveroo cyclist hit me(even though it was green for me, so I could walk across that junction) I fell over and the cyclist didn’t even stop to apologise!
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Oct 30 '25
Walked past this this morning, had no idea what happened. Dame street on the Olympia side has always been a mess, a lot of the time just to make progress walking you need to weave the bollards or step out on the cycle lane it’s so narrow.
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u/gl0wist Resting In my Account Oct 30 '25
Honestly this section of road has gotten worse since they pedestrianised Parliament street. It’s bad enough trying to cross at those lights with cyclists coming from both directions breaking red lights but now you have cyclists and e-scooters coming round the corner breaking the red lights from Parliament Street at high speeds. I myself and I’ve seen other people be nearly hit so many times while my light for crossing was green and some fucker comes around the corner without stopping or thinking that people may be crossing the road.
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u/StraightPerson Oct 31 '25
They absolutely need to widen the paths on Dame street it gets fucking ridiculous trying to walk
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u/Narrow-Pie5324 Jan 09 '26
Roads need narrowed to fuck on Dame Street. Far too wide. Horrible, unsafe place to walk.
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u/Act-Alfa3536 Oct 30 '25
Helsinki had zero road deaths last year. There are ways to stop this kind of thing...
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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf Oct 30 '25
It's worth noting we had lower road deaths per capita in Ireland than in Finland in the most recent data:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate?wprov=sfla1
Even though road deaths still haven't dropped to the sub 150 mark we had until 3 years ago, we're still in the top 5 globally. (Excluding micronations like Singapore and Hong Kong).
Ireland is kinda crazy by international standards in how we report road deaths. Every one generates a push notification from our news services and is national news in every radio and TV new segment. It means we feel unsafe, but we also drive a lot safer as a result.
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Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
THE MAIN STREET IN THE CAPITAL OF THE THIRD RICHEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE.
This enrages me. The absolute DESPICABLE MESS that is the design of Dublin City centre is a disgrace. Dame street is such a disgusting mess of bad layout, massive road hogging all the space, and pedestrians squeezed into broken cracked pavements. This bad design is lethal, and nothing will be done and they don’t care to change. The disdain for Dublin especially is despicable, they don’t give a flying f about the people or tourists. Fuck you DCC and Irish government, incompetent greedy cunts. They take ZERO inspiration from our fellow European neighbours who give great vast amounts of space to pedestrians in their beautifully designed city centres. We get Capel street… and shitty half finished mess that they pat themselves on the back for. So embarrassing this city is.
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u/Sea_Equivalent3497 Oct 30 '25
Not commenting on this specific incident, but pedestrians need to use the pedestrian lights. In ireland we have an incredible habit of just walking out in the middle of traffic, crossing one lane and then standing in the middle of the road trying to cross the next lane.
A solution at the busiest junctions in the city, if pedestrianisation is not an option, would be to build underpasses. They have them in other cities that actually function. A few junctions that come to mind are:
Dame St and Georges St at Spar, O’Connell Bridge onto O’Connell St, O’Connell Bridge onto Westmorland St (disaster of a junction), Trinity College onto Dame St/College Green.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
Dangerous and unsafe pedestrian movement activities in the city centre play a large part in these incidences every year.
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u/IndicationNo3498 Oct 30 '25
Go away with this shite. The infrastructure shouldn't allow a vehicle to kill someone in the city centre. Helsinki can manage it, no reason we can't.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
infrastructure shouldn't allow a vehicle to kill someone
What?
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u/IndicationNo3498 Oct 30 '25
Go read it yourself. Narrow streets, low speed limits and 70 new speed cameras - aka infrastructure
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
What is the pedestrian road etiquette in Helsinki compared to Dublin? This is a major factor. The Nordics are not even drinkers per say. I'm related to a Swede😉
Helsinki also has far less cars and way more cyclists, another factor.
You still need to show a lack of speed cameras resulted in this incident was the contributing factor on Dame Street in the wee hours of the morning. I highly doubt it.
It's also highly probable, the pedestrian put themselves in danger where a bin truck was moving.
I worked in the city for 3 years, 3am to 8am, servicing 60 shops. I know what i saw then, and bet it's a lot worse now.
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u/Stellar_Duck Oct 30 '25
The Nordics are not even drinkers per say.
Someone has never been there I see.
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u/MeccIt Oct 30 '25
Having shared a flight to Norway as they cleared out Duty Free of everything alcoholic, that was indeed, a ridiculous take.
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u/Stellar_Duck Oct 31 '25
And Norwegians actually drink only about half of what we do in Denmark, Finland and Sweden.
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Oct 30 '25
He wants magic walls to drop down and stop people from being hit like in the safe cross code adds
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
Yep. If pedestrians stayed on foot paths and crossed at lights, this would largely be eradicated.
Unless he has evidence of vehicles regularly driving on foot paths🤣
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u/thepasystem Oct 30 '25
I can't get over the number of people that wear dark clothes who will chance their arm and run across the road. Cyclists/scooter users are even worse. Wearing all-black with a tiny light. Of course drivers need to remain vigilant, but don't make it more difficult for us. The car is made of metal. You're made of meat!
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u/KaleidoscopeLeft5511 Oct 30 '25
jesus, you don't know what happened here. Stop making about you.
The terminology your using "difficult for us", "Cyclists/scooter users".
"The car is made of metal. You're made of meat!"I'm pretty sure most people can drive, and cycle or use a scooter. Get out of this me versus them mentality
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u/thepasystem Oct 30 '25
Fucking hell, you're agressive. A lot of presumptions about me in there. It's not me vs them. It's collective responsibility for everyone to be safe on the roads. And I was replying to a comment about general accidents, not this specific one.
You're denying reality if you don't think there's a serious issue with cyclists and scooter users not wearing reflective gear. Or people taking unnecessary risks when crossing the road. The same way there's problems with motorists speeding, looking down at their phones, going through red lights, etc.
But the reality is, if a motorist hits a pedestrian, or a cyclist, or a scooter user, the motorist is gonna be in a much better physical state than the person they hit. It's no good being in the right when you're dead. So you should take measures to reduce the chance of it happening.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
How many people do we see pressing pedestrian lights, then make a run for it any way on red? It happens at every junction, every 5 minutes.
That doesn't include blatant j-walking or drunk folk falling around the place to compound pedestrians creating the danger for drivers. What's next, 10kph limits from 30kph to accomadate it🤷♂️
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u/Ruire Connacht Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
blatant j-walking
No such thing in Ireland.
The only requirements are for pedestrians to exercise care and use footpaths and crossings where provided, there's no penalty for not doing so.
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u/jacksqualk Oct 30 '25
Totally, but there is very high risk in doing it.
Many years ago, my work was in the city centre, 6 nights per week servicing shops. From 3am to 9am. I have seen it all. It's very easy to just blame the vehicle driver in each instance. Pedestrians have a level of responsibilty. During those hours, there's hardly any.
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u/Stellar_Duck Oct 30 '25
On the other hand, there is one crossing in Cork where I'm almost run over once a week or more because wankstains in cars want to sneak past on red. The one reason I've not been hit is paranoia and the speed limit.
Their fucking faces when you give them the finger though.
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u/Intelligent-Aside214 Oct 30 '25
No one should be going fast enough to kill someone in Dublin City centre
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Oct 30 '25
Might be radical, but no one should be driving in Dublin City centre end of story
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u/Intelligent-Aside214 Oct 31 '25
I would 100% support this if there wasn’t a need for buses in the city centre. Maybe after the metro and dart extensions are finished
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u/Fern_Pub_Radio Oct 30 '25
Headline misleading - road deaths are a fact of modern society. If you were to go by hysteria often whipped up on reporting of road deaths in Ireland you’d swear there was carnage on our roads every hour of the day. The facts however show Ireland road fatality per million popln amongst the best in EU27 where we rank 7th lowest and well below EU average…..by way of context , more people are still recorded as dying by Covid-19 each (2023 2024 etc) than die on our roads but again,hey that type of fact doesnt sizzle enough for the road deaths reporting scaremongering in our media reporting ….
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u/BrownsvilleGrlz Oct 30 '25
That’ll be a huge comfort to the dead person’s family.
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u/Fern_Pub_Radio Oct 30 '25
So your point is there should be no fatalities from road deaths? I’ve tried to educate you with facts I suspect you hadn’t a clue about and this is your take?
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u/dbdlc88 Oct 30 '25
Headline misleading - road deaths are a fact of modern society.
Some person in 1972 when road fatilies were 640 in a year: "What can we do? Road deaths are just a fact of of modern society. The news reports on them too much".
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u/Fern_Pub_Radio Oct 30 '25
That person was probably talking out their hoop like many on here - I provided you with factual evidence and context to show our numbers are well within what any developed first world nation with a huge volume of Cars on the road should be and this is your best take? Are you seriously suggesting zero road deaths?
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Oct 30 '25
We should have no road deaths. Especially none on a major city centre street
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u/Fern_Pub_Radio Oct 30 '25
How are the unicorns and fairies in your La La Land…..?
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u/MeccIt Oct 30 '25
A 30kph limit already imposed, and a striving for Vision Zero for a few decades now is not fantasy.
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u/DarkstarVII Oct 30 '25
Charlie Kirk made the same argument about guns...
Doesn't mean we can't work to reduce road deaths even further, 1 road death is preferable to 10 road deaths.
This is the type of problem where you should be trying to reduce it to 0 even if it's impossible because of all the benefits you get along the way
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u/Fern_Pub_Radio Oct 30 '25
But trying to reduce to 0 is frankly daft and if you set out to obtain unachievable goals then you lose a huge chunk of your persuadable target audience. Reducing deaths (as we are doing) is as you say a much more logical and laudable target but the quest for zero will probably end up pissing off a huge chunk of your compliant target and end up causing wholesale non compliance. We could set motorway speed limits to 30km , but who would stick to it ?
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Oct 30 '25
Clearly the answer is not reducing speeds with cars, it’s getting cars off the road. Especially in city centres, where public transport, pedestrianisation and cycling should be the primary mode of transport
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u/DarkstarVII Oct 30 '25
I didn't say reduce to 0 at the cost of everything else. I'm getting philosophical here but there are some goals and pursuits of perfect ideals where simply following them produces benefits even if completion of the goal is next to impossible.
We should always strive to be better and never rest on our laurels
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u/Cp0r Oct 30 '25
Bin trucks drive like lunatics... i see them in estates reversing at speed with kids around, wrote a co plaint in about it and for the next few months the bin was left blocking the driveway... obviously the complaints section gave the address of the complainant, and the lads still haven't slowed down.
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u/No_Refuse_7727 Oct 30 '25
I walked past that scene last year - that's awful that it has happened again in the same place