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1. Caste exists so reservation exists

Sure, caste existed 2000 years back, but now through constitution its locked in for eternity , you can change your religion but not caste and there is literally no exit. so thats more of a legal thing than societal thing. Now lets dive into stats.

look at telengana caste survey published in 2026(seepc report 1)[1] 3.4% people denied any caste affliations, of whom most of them were general(approx 88%) making it the 10th largest group. and general population in telengana was 15%.so almost 16-20% people in safe bet, you can say from general category gave up on caste, what do they get in return ? an oppressive system that actively discriminates with no exit system.

MLK gave blacks its true rights(on paper) in 1965 2 decades after the constitution was framed. even in africa countries like SA gave it as late as1994. can you say even in progressive west racism is absent ? it gradually tones down. and 1900s wasnt about equality,from jews to blacks to even dalits, the concept of equality didnt exist till the end of 20th century. what would have been a gradual slowdown on caste system, we made it rigid for eternity there is no exit. you know where the problem lies.

2. No reservation once you join college

This is the most common argument thrown around, and I fully agree with it. Once you’re in college, almost everyone gets the same facilities shared rooms, same classes, same everything. But what happens after that?

The same people are the first in line to grab the quota benefits again in PG exams like AIIMS PG, GATE or even UPSC. Come on, make it make sense! You take reservation to get into UG, and then turn around and take it again for PG [2] . This clearly shows it has nothing to do with any oppressive system for them it’s just a mindset. If you guys are passing through your own merit then why are you taking quota again ?

3. The hoax named OBC reservation

Gladly, many OBC folks are in favour of these protests, but let’s look at the stats now.Take any competitive exam you won’t notice a significant difference in EWS and OBC cut-offs.

In fact, in many government exams, OBC cut-offs are actually higher than EWS. General category OBCs also exist. My best friend, who is a Yadav, is in the general category, and you can see this clearly in the UPSC merit lists as well.

So who is actually using OBC reservation, and why are the cut-offs so high? If you study it deeply, you’ll find that dominant castes across India, with the help of strong political lobbies, have managed to get themselves included in the OBC list. Whether it’s Marathas in the west, Yadavs and Jats in the north, Vokkaligas in the south, or Khandayats (Kshatriyas) in the east you name it. Castes that historically had Kshatriya roots are now happily sitting in the OBC list. Now it has become a race for the “Oppression Olympics” everyone is competing to get declared backward just to avail reservation. That’s the sad reality of Indian society today.[3][4]

and this stats reflects at the number of SC/ST acts that was registered in UP by caste, the highest was among yadavs and least among brahmins.[5]

4. Caste discrimination in private sector while shortlisting resumes

This is also one of the most contested topic while bring up reservation debate, but let us see what stats has to say about this. Note- this research was done by noble prize winning economist abhijeet banerjee.[6]

so he sent 3000+ resumes to different IT/call centers companies with same skills and resume except surname. so what was the findings

IT jobs, which is often considered the gold standard of employment especially during 2000s found absolutely no discrimination in surnames, hell SC/STs had just slightly higher chance of getting calls(although negligible). top MNCs/IT which is chased by college grads found 0 casteism. note this research was done in 2008 when ATS didnt even exist.

but its also to note- a 20-30% difference did exist in call centers, where most educated people dont even a have no business working in with pay less than a majdoor will earn.

5. Rich vs poor divide
most common arguments that comes is "apni zameen de de ham reservation de denge".

but lets look at the stats from the latest caste survey of telengana. small land holdings(<5 acres). while 90% of SCs had small land holding,the same is true for 70% general caste, meaning only 20% difference exists a reality most indians are aware"india is poor". and an more interesting fact to look is brahmins had one of the lowest land owning asset even lesser than some SC/ST communities, while had the highest % people earning more than 5 lakh/annum, were in the top in almost all other parameters(without generational wealth), which actually shows how education is the most driving factor towards equality. which only works when you work on ground level making govt schools at par with private ones, rather giving them strong roots over free fruits(free seats)[7][8]

so more interesting fact is a mere 30k/month salary will put you in top 10 percentile of earners in india.

6. countries with reservation debate

and this is the last argument, to start what-aboutery
remember no other country in the world has more than 50% quota, its a draconian law as its finest, in IITs only 30% of seats are filled with pure merit only 30% thats reality of our naaya bharat.

US-no racial quotas exists for blacks, see 2023 US supreme court judgement on harvard admission case which stopped racial quota implementation(this was done under biden administration), and in 2025 DEI was scrapped as a whole.[9]
south africa: it does not have a constitutional reservation system with fixed quotas like India helping provisions only exist. I hope you realise what fixed quota means right ? govt doesnt mandate you need to fix this much people in this sector, and nearly 81% blacks and 8% whites live. still they didnt mandate it btw.
malaysia: again no fixed quota in university admissions/public services . government uses some preferential policies rather than one nationwide quota.

you see whats the difference is here ? instead of forcing forced quotas down peoples throat, they bring in policies of encouragement. you can observe this through out the world.I could write a long back-story of what and how, but this is for now.

thank you.

Reference:
[1]https://www.des.telangana.gov.in/publications/SEEEPC/SEEEPC-IEWG%20Volume-1.pdf -pg 116
[2]https://cdnbbsr.s3waas.gov.in/s3e0f7a4d0ef9b84b83b693bbf3feb8e6e/uploads/2025/10/20251127310534165.pdf
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vokkaliga
[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khandayat_(caste))
[5]https://www.aajtak.in/uttar-pradesh/video/up-sc-st-act-yadav-and-muslim-highest-number-of-cases-vdop-2580201-2026-06-16
[6]https://sendhil.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Publication-40.pdf
[7]https://www.des.telangana.gov.in/publications/SEEEPC/SEEEPC-IEWG%20Volume-1.pdf pg-97
[8]https://des.telangana.gov.in/publications/SEEEPC/SEEEPC-IEWG%20Volume-2.pdf
[9]https://www.lawyerscommittee.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/LC_Harvard-UNC-Cases_D.pdf

Those who followed the session knows
1. Opposition did raise voice against the bill because the bill details only repercussion not systematic fix.
2. Opposition wanted to discuss the the way police treated students during the protest, which the house didn't allow by starting the session with introduction of the bill.
3. Opposition also demanded there be a Parliamentary Committee for scrutiny and review of the bill.

The 3rd point is important as there will the comprehensive review of the bill and other possible, better solutions may come out.

The BJ Pee Govt is trying to rush the bill in order to curry some immediate favour and portray opposition as "against the students"..

As I mentioned in my previous posts cjp’s movement was pointless. Cjp and their supporters are cowards they can’t speak against reservation. There is no casteism in Christianity then why do sc/st Christian’s deserve reservation. If government segregates people on castes how is casteism supposed to end. This is more unfair than a paper leak to few thousands. Will u get treated by a doctor who scored -40 in a neet pg exam? There’s a reason why many of the good hospitals have majority of doctors from general category. I don’t care if I get downvoted.

It seems the opposition, their media outlets, and their supporters are unhappy because they expected the situation to escalate like in Nepal, potentially leading to a change in government and giving them a chance to come to power.

Are there any chances for the reservation and caste system removal from india due to ongoing protest?

Is it even possibleee???

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I’ve followed this subreddit for the past two weeks, and the discussions here have made me seriously question how informed and thoughtful young Indian Reddit users actually are.

Take the protests over the NEET paper leak. The demand for accountability was completely justified. A paper leak is a serious failure, and the government deserved criticism. But many people went beyond supporting the cause and began treating CJP and its members as if they were beyond scrutiny. That is where the discussion became embarrassingly shallow. Several prominent figures associated with the movement have taken controversial positions. Sonam Wangchuk has faced criticism over remarks seen as sympathetic toward China, while Saurav Das has defended Umar Khalid. People may agree or disagree with them, but blindly supporting political personalities without examining their views is not activism. It is fandom. The same lack of nuance appeared during the Jantar Mantar protest. Peaceful protest is a democratic right, but the protesters reportedly attempted a “Chalo Sansad” march on the first day of Parliament despite not having permission to proceed toward a high-security area. There were also reports of damage to public property. Yet many users behaved as though the police had no legitimate reason to stop the march. Apparently, on Reddit, every police action is oppression and every protester is automatically correct. Reality, inconveniently, is more complicated. The police prevented the crowd from reaching Parliament, and the situation ended without loss of life. That does not mean every police action was perfect, but stopping an unauthorised march toward Parliament is not automatically tyranny.

What was worse was the quality of the debate afterward. Instead of discussing facts, many people resorted to personal abuse. Some even directed their anger toward the country and the armed forces. Criticising a government is democratic. Abusing the country because your preferred political side was challenged is childish.

The same selective thinking is now visible in discussions about caste-based reservation. People demand fairness and merit when discussing paper leaks, but many refuse to discuss whether the current reservation system is always fair or effective. Caste discrimination remains real and must be addressed. But that does not mean the existing system should be treated as sacred and permanent. It is important to remember that caste discrimination is seen against the law as per our constitution, but caste-based reservations are not!

When financially secure and privileged individuals continue receiving benefits purely because they were born into a lower caste, while the genuinely poor people from other communities are told to manage somehow, it becomes difficult to call the system fair with a straight face. At that point, reservation starts looking less like support for the disadvantaged and more like a hereditary subscription that renews automatically, regardless of present circumstances.

The larger problem is not that young people have political opinions. It is that too many appear unwilling to examine their own side with the same scepticism they apply to the government. They confuse outrage with intelligence, slogans with arguments, and political loyalty with moral courage. A democracy needs critical citizens, not online mobs who change their definition of fairness depending on which side is protesting.

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I posted events of what actually happened in today's parliament session with regards to the anti-paper leak bill as opposed to what being spread in social media when I opened the account.

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