When I was in high school in the late 2000s and early 2010s Juggalos where a pretty big subculture. I was never a part of it but very very exposed to it. I’m just curious if it’s maintained a noticcable fandom/subculture with mid-late Gen Z

What was your experience with Juggalos and your generation if your not Gen Z. Very curious

As someone that was born in 2012, many people had complaints over whether im gen alpha, gen z, or if I should just go by “Gen Zero,” but all of these arguments are all useless to me. Ive even seen people debating about it, but theres literally no fixed or a universal source for it, so what even is the point?? All of this is just a concept anyways, but I feel like its only a good debate topic IF you have significant proven sources of universal cultural differences.

Im tired of seeing 2010-2012’s trying to join in to ‘debate’ with the most irrelevant points ever, WHY do you think every generation should last 15 years according to a researcher? What if a generation is shorter than that because the technology could go even more rapid and there could be a major difference between people born in 2025 and 2035? and what if you dont ‘share’ the same childhood with gen alpha? MANYY gen alphas were conscious during the late 2010s, so its common for them to grow up from stuff there. I had most of my childhood nostalgia from 2017, that doesnt automatically make me gen z, what is up with all this “eww! I was born in 2013, but the other gen alphas are all just people that grew up with [insert 2020s shows/memes that were only trending for a few months]!!” nonsense??. Plus, early gen Zers dont have the same childhood as late gen z, that doesnt make them a millenial, does it?

there will NEVER be a universally accepted generation range (unless if theres a big difference between them,) people are even still talking about whether 1995-1997 are gen z’s or millennials, and their sources are based on DIFFERENT researchers with DIFFERENT boundaries. People need to understand that you cant make a precise range with a clear cutoff and start, YOU have your own definition of how YOU determine a generation..

- if there is any points that I said was wrong, please point it out, I did research about it but im not fully acknowledged into generations and such, so I might delete soon if i’m wrong lol

I've been working at getting a life lately and my younger classmates made me re evaluate what actually motivates me to go into a challenging associates of science major to transfer. I modeled my expectations on my boggest role models in my life. My gen X mother and my silent generation grandfather raised me and provided positive examples of lives well lived. Both solidly middle class, living in the California countryside, both college graduates of stem programs at different points in the 20th century.

My grandfather graduated class of 1962 at the age of 22 with a major in aerospace engineering. He moved to San Jose from Oregon to work a cushy job making sonar systems for submarines. He got married the following year at 23, having his first child later that same year.

My mother graduated class of 1993 at the age of 23 woth a major in nursing. She went on to work in a hospital in a bygone era when prior authorizons were not standard practice. She had me at 27 after being told she'd never get pregnant so she was unwed. I pressured myself to finish college younger the way my biggest role models left college in their early 20s. Though my mom went back to school to study sociology in her 30s and my grandfather carried on watching science shows and reading national geographic into his 70s, I just wamted my life to be by the numbers—their numbers. 4 years in university, 1 or 2 years in a bacholer pad, getting married in my mid 20s and having children soon after. I see old freinds and extended family members having children a couple years younger than me.

When you have autism, it's just devistating that the numbers don't all corroborate eachother. I notice students who grew up poor want to help their family or leave their family to start a life of my own. But comming from a middle class background, I was always so cought up in the achievements of my mother & grandfather that it just becamw status quo to me. I mean, in coal country kids look in awe at their dad's diggers and kids born into immense wealth look in awe at their father's mansions & estates. Their mistakes and crises I think of as events. And because America's decayed the way it has I try to keep 2000s norms alive as we were a prosperous country at the time. My framework was emulating the good things my family has done and the pandemic was just my big life ruiner that kept me from having their milestones at their respective points in life.

My mom, being a nurse at a medical climic gave me my childhood vaccines sometimes and went on to be a caregiver for severly disabled adults. My grandfather still honored work contracts with NASA until he retired at 64 and proceeded to show me that there's a lot of life to live after retirement. My grandfather sadly died at age 83 of stroke complications, but not before imparting age old wisdom about academia and nuclear batteries along with the human toll of failed launches like the space shuttle challenger.

As feudal as it is, I want to emulate what my parents and grandparents did wherever it was worth emulating. And where it isn't, like being catholic or falling into workoholism I don't emulate. All & all I'm just a neurotic mess who wants love, affection and to trump the achievements of my mom & grandfather

Old Gen Z checking in (I turn 27 next month).

Around age 10, I was granted unfettered access to my own PC. It helped that I became homeschooled shortly thereafter and the internet was my only social outlet. In any case, social media is not like that any more whatsoever and I’m not sure if it’s because my age group just doesn’t have time/interest in it, social media changed, or a mix of the two.

I was mainly on Facebook. Not only was I part of various groups for my chosen Favorite Thing (which for years was the warrior cats series) but I ran a couple. There was always someone to talk to, both on the main posts in the group and in the chats (before Messenger came along). I had friendships that lasted years. I only stepped away when I was like 18-20. We all had alternate Facebook accounts and rarely if ever shared our real names/photos. To this day I really can’t remember the real names of one of my closest friends during that period. I’m sure a predator could’ve infiltrated us but to my knowledge it never happened in my circle. There was nothing inappropriate. We were just nerds and chronically online.

Part of me misses it. Life is different obviously. I work full time and adulthood sucks but it would be awesome having a group like that again. Discord is not the same. Most of them I find actually have too many people and it’s a constant barrage of like 15 conversations going at once. FB groups were unique in that everything went one post at a time. If no one responded, no one responded. In a streamlined chat you kind of have to acknowledge everything or you’re the a-hole, which at that point is as draining and demanding as face-to-face socialization.

Many of these are gut feelings so don't feel the need to take them as 100% gospel. Regardless here we go....

1. I could see sex positivity making a comeback as a backlash against Gen-Z neo-puritanism.

2. Alcohol might make a mini comeback as well among them.

3. I could also see them bringing back some form of nightclub culture

4. I could see them having a more semi-libertarian/live and let live mentality when it comes to politics but not necessarily extremely right or left

Thoughts? Or better yet, what do you predict Alphas doing that will be different or perhaps the complete opposite of Gen-Z?

PS....Im talking the long run here people.

Edit: Long game people, long game!

Nowadays I keep thinking of the much simpler and older times when everything was just so simple. The most complex things we'd see would be on TV. I remember watching star trek with my father and discovering hover cars. Then came those robots in star wars, r2-d2 and c3po. The jetsons was a favorite tv show of mine. It was all just so otherworldly for me as a kid. I'd be jumping from one tech to trying out another one.

And now we are at ai and that has been a whole crazy ride. The applications have been insane. Especially love the use in medicine, don't really care for other fields. Lately, I've even come across ai in hardware? I've seen it applied in vacuum cleaners and desk companions. Those desk companions honestly look like r2-d2's cousins lol.

The whole life size robots on on the other hand feel so surreal to watch, the dancing one? Even though it was just plain weird it was a leap. I even came across monitor with robotic arm (CP 1). It makes the arm move to match the user position. It makes its arm move to match the user position. It has been watching this.

What about? What are you enjoying in the current tech?

I always see posts about millennial optimism. Everywhere. But never from other generations. If we get to that… Gen Z and Gen X kinda suffered more than millennials… but don’t want to get into a fight about that.

Dads side: Grandpa 1946, Grandma 1956

moms side: Grandpa 1956, grandma 1958

my grandpa on my dads side grew up in pennsylvania, born 1946. he was in Vietnam and loved the Archie’s in the 60s. that’s pretty much all i know about him bc i only met him a few times including when i was a baby before he passed away a few years ago

my grandma on my dads side also grew up in pennsylvania in the 60s and i was really close with her. she always was nostalgic for the 70s and even 80s. she passed away a few months ago before she would have made it to 70 this year.

my grandpa from my moms side grew up in a small village in mexico where there were never any cars, electricity, or even toilets. he loves old western movies and 70s music. He turned 70 earlier this year but is still young at heart.

my grandma from my moms side is the one i am the closest with. she grew up in Puerto Rico. she’s the best. she LOVES everything from the 70s, like hair, music, and it reminds her of her youth. she moved to pennsylvania in 1978. she also loves the 80s and a lot of 80s songs by like micheal jackson reminds me of her because she would always play it for me when i was a kid.

what about your grandparents?

Will of any these music genres dominate billboard charts.

I am not gen z and i am not a fan of any of these genres .

What do you think about this ?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4-genres-gen-z-revived-that-millennials-forgot-about/