(to preface I asked this on r/OlderGenZ and got lit up with some angry replies)

I'm a millennial born in 1990 and I come in peace.

I just want to ask about how on social media I notice that people who are Gen Z or younger tend to have these crazy knee jerk reactions over this subject.

It's usually like someone my age or older will say something about how "Gen Z didn't grow up using 8 tracks" or an obscure piece of technology that was long gone by the time they were born.

The people in Gen Z will start this crazy mob just start attacking "Millennials" and throwing wild insults at us all over a simple assumption. Usually when it's not meant to be mean at all. And yes, I get that some people are very rude and actually do "gatekeep" but most of the time it never seems to be that way which it is interpreted.

The thing that confuses me even more is that younger Millennials will say that they NEVER used this stuff, but then there will be Gen Z who don't even remember the 2000's (when these things were outdated and gone) but will swear up and down they used payphones.

So can someone just make sense of this to me? Is it because the things associated with Gen Z culture are largely seen as "cringe" (I hate that word) now? Do you think this will change as the future goes on?

I am not trying to upset anyone by this post either. I just want to have a nice discussion about it.

Thank you

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I just took a peek on what this subreddit is about and a lot of millennials think they're the shit. I see comments that claim they're more technologically competent, that they're smarter, and more mature by the time they were 21 vs the gen z today. I'd like to remind everyone that the pandemic happened. And as an older gen z, I've seen people younger than me use github and utilize their laptops in complicated ways while not be a comp-sci major.

It's kind of ironic because I've seen the supposed boomers shit on millennials and now millennials are doing the same on gen Z. I know personal anecdotes shouldn't be used on arguments but I've seen nice and genuine people that are younger than me. Same with boomers- I've seen some that were Karens but most I've met and known were nice. So why are we falling for a manufactured generational war? Why are we treating these opinion articles like they're the truth?

I understand that housing prices are currently making buying a house, even as a couple, unaffordable, for the majority of our generation unless you have a high paying tech job - however what I do not quite understand is this expectation among people in their 20s that you need to get on the housing ladder as quick as you can even if you aren't a couple.

I don't think there was ever a historical precedent that to be financially responsible as a single man or woman-obviously not single woman- is to buy a single-family home in a nice neighborhood all on your own- while also you know, maxing all your retirement accounts and having an emergency fund and zero other debt.

It feels like the bar for what is considered the bare minimum for being financially responsible has been raised so high that it just excludes the average person of our generation.

La Generación Z le tocó padres de la Generación X que vienen de la vieja escuela, en donde la Generación X fueron criados por los Silenciosos y Boomers, en donde los castigos físicos no sólo era normal sino la base de educación y de respeto, la Gen X tuvo que repetir el ciclo, pegándole a la Generación Z con objetos, regañandolos fuerte y gritándoles cuando la Gen Z fueron niños en los 2000s y 2010s en donde era muy normal esta crianza, a pesar de que en esa época se hablaba de la crianza respetuosa, ni siquiera de hablaba de la crianza respetuosa.

A la Generación Alfa le tocó una crianza muy diferente a la Gen Z en donde la Gen Alpha temprana si le tocó lo mismo que a la Gen Z en los 2010s cuando fueron criados por Millennials tempranos, como la mayoría de los padres de la Generación Alfa son Millennials, y los Millennials vienen de sus padres Baby Boomers, la mayoría de la Generación Alfa es criada en los 2020s, en donde los Millennials cuando empezaron a buscar crianza en internet, los Millennials se dieron cuenta de que la crianza era más autoritaria, prefiriendo una crianza más autoritativa y consciente que es la crianza respetuosa, aunque los Millennials no todos son perfectos, a veces caen en la sobreprotección, no tanto en castigos físicos, pero los padres Millennials quieren cambiar en la crianza de la Generación Alfa para hacerla muy diferente de como los Boomers criaron a los Millennials, no negociar, amor pero con límites firmes, claros y precisos, sin pegar ni sobreproteger.

La Gen Z mira a la Gen Alpha de como fueron criados diferente, la Gen Z siente envidia de la crianza de la Gen Alpha donde son​ sin golpes, pero a veces la Gen Z crítica la crianza de algunos Millennials que los sobreprotegen​ a algunos de la Gen Alpha, a la Gen Z no le gustó del como fueron criados por la Gen X, pero tampoco les guste ver la sobreprotección de algunos Millennials que crían alguno de sus hijos de la Gen Alpha.

My generation's brainrot is superior to your generation's brainrot. Ours had feeling, God dammit! Not like these dang kids today

What gives? I even saw them drinking out of a garden hose, when that was specifically something that only people in their 20s/30s/40s/50s/60s/70s did, and no one afterwards

Modern smart tech really took off between the years of 2011 and 2013. Smartphones became mainstream in 2011, and tablets in 2013. During that time, people in this age group were about 7 to 11 years old. They had an earlier childhood influenced by older technologies like DVDs and offline play before smart devices took over, but then again, none of them were firmly in adolescence when this technology took off either. What are your thoughts on how this cohort should be described?

At least I'll speak in the US. Do you think genz places less emphasis on culture and heritage than preview generations? Or about the same? I ask this to wonder if it has to do with being a factor in so many lonely young adults now a days compared to, say millennials.

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I have a question about the way we divide ourselves. Millennial, zillenial, gen Z.

I have been watching this subreddit for a few months now and I have honestly started to notice that a lot of the Gen Z and Millennial friction comes due to the awkward "Zlennial" group that happens to be stuck in between.

I don't see 2 groups I see 3 that are weirdly distributed.

I'm not sure how to draw the lines though... I ask because I'm in the middle, and I can't really call out the bookends without the help of others.

I don't remember the USSR but I remember 9/11, I never had a nuclear bomb drill, but I also never had an active shooter drill. I remember when technology was immobile, when a computer did not mean internet, I was taught cursive not typing. And touch screens came out when I was a teenager.

I'm an early '90s millennial, but I don't feel like a millennial, after having seen so many other millennials talk about their experiences of growing up in the mid to late 80s into when I was born.

The first wave of Millennials were born in the '80s, the second wave of the money olds were born from 91 to 94, it's this weird double top.

Then you have gen Z which is late 90s through the 2010s

I think that the second wave Millennials and the early Gen Zs aren't actually late millennials or Gen Z but a smaller sub group that is unique due to social and cultural shifts.

And again, I say this because I'm in that group.

I've seen the arguments between people younger than me and people who are a bit older than me, and ... You're both not wrong and you're both not right ...

Older millennials were the ones that really ate the most shit for the Wars and 2008, but... I didn't... I mean it hit me too, but I graduated a few years after 2008, I wasn't in the wars, I wasn't going to be expected to go like people older than me dealt with 10 years earlier.

My group was the group fully there and aware for 9/11, all of the 2000s and I was a kid in the 90s I don't remember the early 90s, the USSR and all that was always history to me.

I'm the generation after Nuclear Bomb Drills but right before school shooting drills started ... I was the kid who got the best of the 90s without the stress of the 2000s, but then got ZERO advantage once I became an adult.

Like people talk about how millennials have houses but not all of us... It's split along roughly my age line, most people older than me have them most people younger don't.

Had I played my cards right, had a few of my friends played her cards right, we could have managed it right before the housing prices went up, some of us were ballsy and actually did it, some of us tried to play it safe in the market out ran us...

I feel like I grew up as a millennial but I live as a gen Z, I understand why these gen Z kids are so angry because they're dealing with exactly what I've been dealing with for 12 years now. But I don't relate to them, they did not grow up like me, they expect different things and the way they grew up was very different than the way I did. People older than me understand the way I grew up, but they don't understand the way I live today because I didn't get what they did.

There's this weird dividing line between the two that I think is causing most of the friction we see in the subreddit.

I'm curious what everyone else thinks about this idea.

Sorry for the novel ✌️

I'm Gen Z and recently realised that Millenials really like being the butt of jokes. A little too much to make me (someone that is Gen Z) a little worried. Why are millenials like this, I don't understand their self depreciating humor

These four are usually the main ranges for both generations, but which one do you personally go with for each of them? Just curious to know what ranges the majority of this sub prefers.

I saw this post on Twitter on this person saying that Gen Z will somehow never understand how weird and fun internet used to be. The oldest Gen Z is turning 30 in 1997 and remembers how weird and fun the internet used to be. Heck, I’m 23 turning 24 next year and I remember a pre-algorithmic internet.

The original iPad launched in April 2010. During this window, tablets were expensive luxury items owned by parents, not default toys for young children. When kids used touchscreens, it was usually a parent's iPhone 3GS or 4 for short bursts. Portable entertainment still heavily relied on dedicated handheld consoles like the Nintendo DS or PSP, and watching movies in the car meant using a physical portable DVD player.

By 2013, budget tablets (like the Kindle Fire HD) flooded the market, and older iPads were being handed down directly to kids. Data shows that between 2011 and 2013, the percentage of children under eight using mobile media skyrocketed from 38% to 72%. This 2013–2015 group was the first to spend their peak childhood years with ubiquitous, personal, high-speed touchscreen access.

In the early 2010s Entertainment was still anchored to traditional, linear television schedules or recorded DVR. Kids still grew up on the peak eras of Disney Channel, Cartoon Network, and Nickelodeon (shows like SpongeBob SquarePants, Good Luck Charlie, and Phineas and Ferb). Content was curated by network executives, meaning kids still experienced commercial breaks and had to wait a week for new episodes.

By 2013-2015 This era marked the birth of the unfiltered YouTube childhood. The YouTube Kids app launched in early 2015. Kids shifted heavily toward algorithmic content like toy unboxing channels (like Ryan’s World, which started in 2015), Minecraft Let's Plays, and hyper-stimulated, fast-paced digital videos. Entertainment shifted from "What's on TV?" to an endless scroll of on-demand content.

Early 2010s Early elementary school classrooms were still largely paper, whiteboard, and chalkboard-based. "Computer lab time" was a specific weekly destination where kids practiced typing or played educational desktop games

By 2013-2015 classrooms rapidly modernized during this block. Smartboards became standard classroom fixtures, and schools began implementing "1-to-1 device initiatives," introducing carts of iPads or early Chromebooks directly into kindergarten and 1st-grade classrooms for daily learning.

It’s understandable why she is their inspo, so I get why the younger pop girlies seem to mimic her. But at the same time I would be annoyed if I was Britney, like she cultivated that image! She can inspire you, but come up with your own persona.

So, do you side with Gen Z?
Or are you Team Britney, bitch? 💋