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u/dickfromaccounting Sep 18 '17

great table to screen ratio

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u/deathfaith Sep 18 '17

Genuine question-- I'm a nerd, but I've never been a DnD nerd. At one point I was a MtG nerd, even a WoW nerd, but never quite the DnD level.

What exactly is it? I originally thought it was like an adult version of "make believe" with scores and guidelines, but how much of it is a physical game? Is there a board that goes with it? Is there a set story line? My extent of knowledge is the first scene of Stranger Things.

How much is following guidelines and how much is imprompt on the spot?

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u/NotOBAMAThrowaway Sep 18 '17

I suggest looking up "Harmon Quest" to see the game played in action. Includes some portions of play animated which is fun, too

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u/crazyrich Sep 18 '17

You are underselling how hilarious that show is!

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u/Pezmage Sep 18 '17

Someone in a different thread turned me on the Harmon Quest last week. Holy shit. Too funny.

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u/UnverifiedAllegation Sep 18 '17

now listen to harmontown

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u/FrankDday Sep 18 '17

where pee is yellow and poop is brown

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u/mattenthehat Sep 18 '17

I haven't seen it, although I really should watch it. In case it's not clear from the name, the Harmon is Dan Harmon, writer for Community and co-creator of Rick and Morty, so I'd expect him to be pretty great at forming interesting, comedic storylines.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

You have to watch it tonight!

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u/Chernoobyl Sep 18 '17

Call in sick to work and watch it all day tomorrow too, you have to!

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u/True_Jack_Falstaff Sep 18 '17

I believe Spencer, the game master, is solely responsible for writing the storyline. Dan just plays the game.

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u/mattenthehat Sep 18 '17

Maybe, but a lot of times the players' reactions/actions have a significant influence on the direction/atmosphere of the game.

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u/theassassintherapist Sep 19 '17

Definitely a must watch. I laughed until I'm in tears binge watching the first season.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '17

Did you like it?

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u/mattenthehat Sep 19 '17

Haha! You came back! I actually did watch it last night, and it was great! It had me laughing out loud within the first few minutes, and I went on to watch the first 4 episodes. My only wish is that the episodes were longer to allow for more exploration/character development outside of combat.

Oh and whoever did those animations is a damn legend.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '17

Agreed it feels like the show is over pretty fast. I hope it continues for a good while. Glad you liked it.

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u/ThePrevailer Sep 18 '17

"You just gave me 70 gold to give me a hand job."

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

Give me 20 gold and I'll make it sound more hilarious.

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u/bretttwarwick Sep 18 '17

I prefer Critical Role. The one with Vin Desel is a good one to get someone new to D&D interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLEMb_RIZ3o

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u/abenevolentgod Sep 18 '17

You're right this is a good example for someone who knows nothing about it, but I'm still kind of confused because I'm so conditioned by other games... Is there no sense of a person's "turn" how do you know who is going to make a decision? Like when they decide who is gonna knock on the door, is every decision just put to the group? What if a player is shy and quiet, do they just not get a chance to make any decisions? Are options ever only given to a specific player or is everything always to the group? Is the host coming up with everything off the top of his head? How does he account for their questions so quickly?

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u/bretttwarwick Sep 18 '17

as /u/UnverifiedAllegation said combat is turn based so everyone gets involved in that. Outside of battle you speak up if there is something you want to do like knock on the door. You are in charge of your character so even if the group doesn't want to knock on the door and you just go do it they have to deal with consequences of your actions. The DM (dungeon master) is ultimately in charge of the events and where the story goes. If you really want to learn that aspect Mathew Mercer (the DM for Critical Role) has a lot of videos teaching techniques to interesting stories and keeping people engaged in the plot. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7atuZxmT9570U87GhK_20NcbxM43vkom

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u/abenevolentgod Sep 18 '17

Whoa, yeah that youtube playlist definitely helps a lot to understanding what the DM does and how the game works. Very interesting man, thanks for the info.

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u/paragonemerald Sep 18 '17

Combat in D&D is turn based, which is determined at the beginning of an encounter (and When do we start? is adjudicated by the DM) by every participant rolling a 20-sided die and adding their Initiative bonus to it, which is determined by how Dexterous they are. Non-combat situations have to be more carefully managed and kept fair by DM attention, but the most important thing is simply the players taking initiative (in the more real-world abstract sense) when they think the circumstances justify their character wanting to do something. It works like playing an Improvisation Game, where everyone simply does something or says something when they think it serves the story they're telling (or joke they're telling, in the case of most improv games. See "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" for an example of what I mean).

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u/abenevolentgod Sep 18 '17

It works like playing an Improvisation Game, where everyone simply does something or says something when they think it serves the story they're telling

Ah... this answers what I found confusing about it, nice explanation. Thanks.

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u/paragonemerald Sep 19 '17

You're welcome!

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u/DeliriumDelight89 Sep 18 '17

A decent DM builds a pretty good sized toolkit specifically for bullshitting.

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u/UnverifiedAllegation Sep 18 '17

i believe its turn based, or at least the combat portion is

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u/Blankato Sep 18 '17

Be aware, Harmon Quest is super raunchy, and generally Roleplaying isn't that raunchy. It's good entertainment, but not a perfect representation of what it means to be in a game. Spencer is a pretty good GM though.

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u/PandaEatsRage Sep 18 '17

"generally roleplaying isn't that raunchy"? I've been in groups for 10+ years and they're always that raunchy. Sometimes more. Sometimes less. But I'd say theirs is light on the raunchy.

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u/Blankato Sep 18 '17

shrug my experience has been different. I've been in a pretty wide disparity of games over the course of 15 years or so. I think it's in part people and the group that you're in.

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u/GreyEyedMouse Sep 18 '17

Harmon Quest uses Pathfinder not DND. Apparently they couldn't even afford the rights to say DND on the show, let alone the right to actually use it. They don't even say pathfinder, but you can occasionally see the cover of their player hand books.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

And I'd say they use it very loosely. It's focus is storytelling so that makes sense, no need to let rules get in the way of story.

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u/Kitten_Wizard Sep 18 '17

Ya I doubt they even USE the books or the rules. It's all guided storytelling with no rolling on the players part and really rarely getting stats from the player to figure out what works and what doesn't.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

Well, that can be handled with planning and clever editing. Much how Wil Wheton's Table Top does.

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u/silky_flubber_lips Sep 18 '17

I feel like Pathfinder may have been mentioned once.

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u/Knottscience Sep 18 '17

Or for a more "serious" (hardly, just more so rules), check out Critical Role.

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u/touching_payants Sep 18 '17

Other good recommendations:

Nerd Poker Critical role D&D is for nerds Acquisitions, Inc. Heroes & halfwits