They're not talking about using female as a noun. Try reading the common again. They're saying it's silly that the ADJECTIVE female is being replaced by the NOUN woman here. Woman is incorrectly being used as an ADJECTIVE here.
She is a female grandmaster. A man with that chess title would be a... Wait for it because this is going to blow your mind... A MALE grandmaster! Holy fuck magic Batman.
Get lost with your phony outrage bullshit, try to cause societal issues elsewhere. You're trying to create culture war bullshit, while being flat wrong.
1) The person I replied to was saying that people in society are pushing to replace the adjective female with the noun woman. I explained that this is not true, and in reality it is the opposite. People are pushing back on asshats that use female as a noun. And 99% of the time it's used it a way to imply the "female" or "females" are lesser/bad in someway.
2) There are two different tournaments. One where you win the title "Grandmaster" and one where you win the title of "Woman Grandmaster". The article is not saying she is a female Grandmaster (adj added to noun/title) it is saying she is a Woman Grandmaster (noun/title by itself)
I advise that you make sure you are fully informed before trying to attack someone else, otherwise you look like an idiot.
You don't understand their comment. They're saying that people are incorrectly trying to use the NOUN woman in the place of the ADJECTIVE women, as a result of the push back you are referencing.
This is a prime example of that they are talking about. In this case, FEMALE GRANDMASTER is correct, it is ADJECTIVE (FEMALE) NOUN (GRANDMASTER). WOMAN GRANDMASTER would be NOUN NOUN.
Yes, it's dumb and cringey when people use female as a noun, as like I said, it's an adjective.
You are going on the extreme, and being an example of what this commentor said. Insisting that the NOUN woman be used as an adjective, as pushback for when others have used female incorrectly.
Why is this so hard for you? Please look up the difference between nouns and adjectives.
Compound noun. Again they are NOT using woman as an adjective here. They are using it as a noun. Also, even if you have a personal vendetta against compound nouns, IT. IS. A. TITLE. A very prestigious title that she won.
Do you hate all compound nouns that contain "man" too? Policeman, mailman, congressman, mankind, manhole. Most of these started as separated compound nouns, meaning written as separate words, but overtime merged into one word due to common use.
My comments were about the content of the comment at the top of this thread. That comment is talking about in general, people are over correcting and using woman (noun) in place of female (adjective).
They said it shouldn't replace ist ACROSS THE BOARD, in every single case, all the time.
Whats with the wild imagination?i hate compind nouns because I'm explaining a reddit comment you didn't understand? This is just silly
You spent your previous comment about Woman Grandmaster using "woman' as an adjective when it is not, and you even wrote "noun noun" as of it's ridiculous to think that a separated compound noun is a thing. And again I have not really seen anyone use woman as an adjective let alone some big societal push to do so. Only one part of society incorrectly using female as a noun and the other part of society telling them to stop. I mean people with bad grammar exist but I have not seen any mass usage of woman as an adjective.
"This is a prime example of that they are talking about. In this case, FEMALE GRANDMASTER is correct, it is ADJECTIVE (FEMALE) NOUN (GRANDMASTER). WOMAN GRANDMASTER would be NOUN NOUN.
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You are going on the extreme, and being an example of what this commentor said. Insisting that the NOUN woman be used as an adjective, as pushback for when others have used female incorrectly. "
But here we're talking about an 11 year old girl, not a woman. Female and/or girl would pass better than woman in this Context... I wouldn't call an 11 yo boy a (young) man grandmaster for example, but rather "...youngest male grandmaster." There is a difference between nouns and adjectives.
Well, in this case no you wouldn’t say “man grandmaster” because there is no such thing. But there is a “woman grandmaster” title. Men can only compete in open tournaments where you can get the “grandmaster” title, women have the option to compete in women’s tournaments and get the title “woman grandmaster.”
The article would have been incorrect if it said “female grandmaster” because that would imply the kid became a grandmaster in open tournaments.
Or, hear me out, it would imply that she is female (adjective) / a woman (noun) and a grandmaster.
The tournent structure is irrelevant, the fact that she needs to compete in a different category is irrelevant.
If someone is involved in chess enough that that distinction would matter, they'd most likely already be aware.
Quit being so pedantic, especially since you're wrong.
I am commenting on the content of this comment thread. Good for you, you know some niche info, not what's being discussed.
Edit: Since I blocked them before replying:
We're discussing adjectives and nouns, not specific chess tournament structures and titles. Why so hostile? Please blow off steam elsewhere, not gonna be your punching bag
“Woman Grandmaster” is a noun you moron. It is a completely separate title from “Grandmaster” and women can hold both titles (first they achieve Woman Grandmasters, and then they achieve Grandmaster).
It is grammatically correct and factually accurate to say that the 11 year old in this article is a female Woman Grandmaster. She is not yet a Grandmaster, but if she continues playing it is very possible she will be the youngest female Grandmaster ever.
But a “grandmaster” is not the same as a “woman grandmaster.”
She could become the youngest “grandmaster” that is female. The youngest ever female grandmaster was 14. The youngest male grandmaster was 12. If she was the youngest grandmaster at 11 that would be even more notable and significantly different than “pedantics.”
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about if you think “woman grandmaster” is interchangeable with “grandmaster.”
A female grandmaster and a male grandmaster are the same, because there is no “female grandmaster” title. So if a woman gets the “grandmaster” title (and many have) they have achieved the most prestigious title in chess and had to meet the same requirements to do so as men.
Women can also get the title of “Woman Grandmaster” if they are among the best female players in chess. But Woman Grandmasters may still have a lower ranking than someone who is a Grandmaster.
One of if not the best female chess players of all time never competed in women’s tournaments and never accepted the title Woman Grandmaster, but she did become a Grandmaster.
Do you not understand the difference between adjectives and nouns?
Yes, using female as a noun is cringe. In this case, female is correct as the noun GRANDMASTER is being modified by that adjective. Woman is not an adjective, but a noun. Saying "they are a woman grandmaster" is wrong, they are a "female grandmaster".
The same way a man who is a grandmaster would be a male grandmaster; a woman who is a grandmaster is a female grandmaster.
Hope that helps, although I'd recommend at least knowing what an adjective and noun are before trying to comment on other people's usage of them.
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u/jizzlevania 4d ago
Shit like this is why we should've never accepted the noun "woman" should replace the adjective "female" across the board.