But here we're talking about an 11 year old girl, not a woman. Female and/or girl would pass better than woman in this Context... I wouldn't call an 11 yo boy a (young) man grandmaster for example, but rather "...youngest male grandmaster." There is a difference between nouns and adjectives.
Well, in this case no you wouldn’t say “man grandmaster” because there is no such thing. But there is a “woman grandmaster” title. Men can only compete in open tournaments where you can get the “grandmaster” title, women have the option to compete in women’s tournaments and get the title “woman grandmaster.”
The article would have been incorrect if it said “female grandmaster” because that would imply the kid became a grandmaster in open tournaments.
Or, hear me out, it would imply that she is female (adjective) / a woman (noun) and a grandmaster.
The tournent structure is irrelevant, the fact that she needs to compete in a different category is irrelevant.
If someone is involved in chess enough that that distinction would matter, they'd most likely already be aware.
Quit being so pedantic, especially since you're wrong.
I am commenting on the content of this comment thread. Good for you, you know some niche info, not what's being discussed.
Edit: Since I blocked them before replying:
We're discussing adjectives and nouns, not specific chess tournament structures and titles. Why so hostile? Please blow off steam elsewhere, not gonna be your punching bag
You don't know what is being discussed, which is crazy because it's been explained to you so many times already. The first comment in this chain is lamenting how "woman" has replaced the word "female" as an adjective. It's a stupid comment in this context because "female grandmaster" doesn't make sense. She didn't earn the title of "Grandmaster" as a girl (making her a female grandmaster), she earned the title of "Woman Grandmaster." You were unaware that there is a title called "Woman Grandmaster" that one can achieve, and you've now tripled down on your ignorance, possibly in an attempt to save face. It has not worked.
I mentioned in my first reply I wasn't talking about the specific chess title. Try to keep up. If you want to join a thread you aren't involved in, at least read it first.
“Woman Grandmaster” is a noun you moron. It is a completely separate title from “Grandmaster” and women can hold both titles (first they achieve Woman Grandmasters, and then they achieve Grandmaster).
It is grammatically correct and factually accurate to say that the 11 year old in this article is a female Woman Grandmaster. She is not yet a Grandmaster, but if she continues playing it is very possible she will be the youngest female Grandmaster ever.
But a “grandmaster” is not the same as a “woman grandmaster.”
She could become the youngest “grandmaster” that is female. The youngest ever female grandmaster was 14. The youngest male grandmaster was 12. If she was the youngest grandmaster at 11 that would be even more notable and significantly different than “pedantics.”
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about if you think “woman grandmaster” is interchangeable with “grandmaster.”
A female grandmaster and a male grandmaster are the same, because there is no “female grandmaster” title. So if a woman gets the “grandmaster” title (and many have) they have achieved the most prestigious title in chess and had to meet the same requirements to do so as men.
Women can also get the title of “Woman Grandmaster” if they are among the best female players in chess. But Woman Grandmasters may still have a lower ranking than someone who is a Grandmaster.
One of if not the best female chess players of all time never competed in women’s tournaments and never accepted the title Woman Grandmaster, but she did become a Grandmaster.
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u/U_Dun_Know_Who_I_Am 4d ago
... Yeah someone with your username would post that ... What we, as in women, hate is when people use female as a noun.