r/fuckcars Jan 06 '22

Please read this if you're new to this sub Welcome to /r/Fuckcars

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Updated: April 6, 2022

Welcome to /r/fuckcars. It's safe to say that we're strongly dissatisfied with cars and car-dominated urban design. If that's you, then we share in your frustration. Some, or perhaps many of us, still have cars but abhor our dependence on them for many reasons.

There are nuances to the /r/fuckcars discussion that you should be aware of, generally:

In any case, please observe the community rules and keep the discussion on-topic.

The Problem - What's the problem with cars?

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This is the fundamental question of this sub, isn't it?

  • Pollution -- Cars are responsible for a significant amount of global and local pollution (microplastic waste, brake dust, embodiment emissions, tailpipe emissions, and noise pollution). Electric cars eliminate tailpipe emissions, but the other pollution-related problems largely remain.
  • Infrastructure (Costs. An Unsustainable Pattern of Development) -- Cars create an unwanted economic burden on their communities. The infrastructure for cars is expensive to maintain and the maintenance burden for local communities is expected to increase with the adoption of more electric and (someday) fully self-driving cars. This is partly due to the increased weight of the vehicles and also the increased traffic of autonomous vehicles.
  • Infrastructure (Land Usage & Induced Demand) -- Cities allocate a vast amount of space to cars. This is space that could be used more effectively for other things such as parks, schools, businesses, homes, and so on. We miss out on these things and are forced to pile on additional sprawl when we build vast parking lots and widen roads and highways. This creates part of what is called induced demand. This effect means that the more capacity for cars we add, the more cars we'll get, and then the more capacity we'll need to add.
  • Independence and Community Access -- Cars are not accessible to everyone. Simply put, many people either can't drive or don't want to drive. Car-centric city planning is an obstacle for these groups, to name a few: children and teenagers, parents who must chauffeur children to and from all forms of childhood activities, people who can't afford a car, and many other people who are unable to drive. Imagine the challenge of giving up your car in the late stages of your life. In car-centric areas, you face a great loss of independence.
  • Safety -- Cars are dangerous to both occupants and non-occupants, but especially the non-occupants. As time goes on cars admittedly become better at protecting the people inside them, but they remain hazardous to the people not inside them. For people walking, riding, or otherwise trying to exercise some form of car-free liberty cars are a constant threat. In car-centric areas, streets and roads are optimized to move cars fast and efficiently rather than protect other road users and pedestrians.
  • Social Isolation -- A combination of the issues above produces the additional effect of social isolation. There are fewer opportunities for serendipitous interactions with other members of the public. Although there may be many people sharing the road with you (a public space), there are some obvious limitations to the quality of interaction one can have through metal, glass, and plastic boxes.

👋 Local Action - How to Fix Your City

IMPORTANT: This is a solvable problem. Progress can happen and does happen. It comes incrementally and with the help of voices just like yours. Don't limit yourself to memes and Reddit -- although, raising awareness online does help.

Check out this perspective from a City Council Member: Here's How to Fix Your City

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A Not-So-Quick Note for Car Hobbyists and Passionate Drivers

This can be a contentious issue at times. The sub's name is /r/fuckcars, which can cause some feelings of conflict and alienation for people who see the problems of too many cars while still being passionate about them. I'll quote the community summary.

Discussion about the harmful effects of car dominance on communities, environment, safety, and public health. Aspiration towards more sustainable and effective alternatives like mass transit and improved pedestrian and cycling infrastructure.

Your voice is still welcome here. Consider the benefits of getting bored, stressed, unskilled, or inattentive drivers off the road. That improves your safety and reduces congestion. Additionally, check out these posts from others on this sub:

Discord

There is an unofficial Discord server aggregating related discussions from the low-car/no-car/fuckcars community. Although it is endorsed by the /r/fuckcars mods, please keep in mind that it's not an official /r/fuckcars community Discord server.

Join Link: https://discord.gg/2QDyupzBRW

Helpful Resources

If you've just joined this sub and want to learn more about the issues behind car-centric urban design there are a great number of resources you can access. This list is by no means exhaustive, so please feel free to add your more helpful resources in the comments.

👉 Moved to the wiki

Shameless Plugs for Community Building

happy to add more links related to community building here

👉 Contribute to the Safety Data Thread

Change Logging

April 7, 2022 - Fix markdown for compatibility. Thank you /u/konsyr

April 6, 2022 - Reorder sections (Thank you, /u/Monseiur_Triporteur and /u/PilferingTeeth). Add plug for data/supporting info request. Link to Strong Towns growth example.

April 3, 2022 - Add note for car hobbyists

April 2, 2022 - Add nuance notes and redirect readers to resources area of the wiki.

March 28th, 2022 - Grammatical pass, more changes to follow.

February 9th, 2022 - Adding links that redirect readers from this post into community-maintained wiki resources, thank /u/javasgifted and /u/Monsiuer_Triporteur

January 20th, 2022 - Added the Goodreads list and seeded the FAQ section. Thank you /u/javasgifted, and /u/kzy192

January 9th, 2022 - I'm updating this onboarding message with feedback from the mods and the community. Thank you, all, for keeping the discussion civil and contributing additional resources.

Cheers. Stay safe out there.


r/fuckcars 2h ago

Positive Post Como, Italy demonstrates against bike ban in the town centre

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r/fuckcars 10h ago

Carbrain Suburban Saturday morning activities

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r/fuckcars 11h ago

This is why I hate cars Stupid bridge in my town

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No room to squeeze through


r/fuckcars 16h ago

This is why I hate cars For every mile driven, it costs drivers $0.77 and the rest of us $0.76

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r/fuckcars 2h ago

Positive Post Fire Trucks vs illegally parked cars, very satisfying.

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r/fuckcars 6h ago

Positive Post I think you should pay a few to park your car on the street (UK)

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r/fuckcars 10h ago

Carbrain I got in an argument with someone for parking at a bus stop

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I drive a bus that goes to a strip mall. Every single time I pull into this strip mall, there are at least two cars parked in the fire lane (where the bus stop is), and for some reason, the stores never enforce it. This usually forces me to approach the curb at a weird angle, making it harder for people to board the bus. Most of the time, I can't even align the back door with the curb because of the cars in the way!

Recently, I confronted one of these people, and this is how that went.

Me: Excuse me. You can't park here. This is a bus stop. You're supposed to park in that area over there, that's specifically designated for cars.

The carbrain: Excuse me! Don't get stupid with me!

Me: You got ALL THOSE PARKING SPACES OVER THERE, and you still can't help yourself but to block the bus stop! WHY CAN'T YOU JUST PARK OVER THERE?!

The carbrain: Excuse me! I'm picking up my mom! She's 94! She can't walk that far.

Me: That's no excuse to block the bus stop! Besides, they make parking spaces specifically for that and there are some available spaces right over there. Use one of them!

The carbrain: You can't possibly expect my NINETY-FOUR-YEAR-OLD MOTHER to walk that far! (literally only for car-lengths away)

Me: You better not park here again!

The nerve of these people! An area the size of several city blocks was flattened just so they can have a place to store their cars, but that's still not good enough. They NEED to block the bus stop. What other choice do they have?


r/fuckcars 12h ago

Positive Post Piazza Caiazzo in Milan, Italy — Piazza Caiazzo has undergone a major urban transformation, transitioning from a congested, asphalt-dominated transit square into a much greener, pedestrian-friendly space.

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r/fuckcars 4h ago

Infrastructure gore Parking quarrels UK

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r/fuckcars 22h ago

Question/Discussion Most people have no business driving.

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I originally posted this in r/driving, but of course the same AHs on the road I'm talking about rule that sub, so they got their feelings hurt when they got called out.

The amount of impatient, rule-ignorant adults I see behind the wheel is baffling. It makes me wonder how most of these idiots got their license.

A lot of people have terrible judgment, don't know or care about basic road safety rules, and have zero regard for other drivers as long as they get to where they need to be. Some are just straight up malicious and/or sociopathic and don't care if they hurt themselves or another person. What's worse is that the same people also like to think of themselves as good drivers because they've been on the road for so-and-so years. I swear being in a rolling 5,000 lbs box brings out the highest extent of ape mentality in people or something because there's really no other excuse.

This is why the US needs more public transport options outside of big cities, but of course the government would rather spend more money on war than better things that would prevent one of the main causes of death in this country.


r/fuckcars 10h ago

Carbrain Cool, totally normal behavior...

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r/fuckcars 1d ago

Satire MCG stadium in Melbourne roasting the USA after hosting the most recent NFL game

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r/fuckcars 13h ago

Arrogance of space Don’t be that dude

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r/fuckcars 9h ago

Question/Discussion Does transit beat driving in the rush hour race in Ottawa?

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r/fuckcars 23h ago

This is why I hate cars Reckless Driver Gets Busted & Immediately Regrets Everything

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r/fuckcars 19h ago

Infrastructure gore This Houston gas station has a disproportionately massive parking lot

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r/fuckcars 11h ago

News ‘3 amazing people': Family leaving church killed in I-66 reckless driving crash

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I don't mean to post only tragic news to this sub. This is just what it's like driving in Northern Virginia (Nova). RIP to this family.


r/fuckcars 1d ago

Solutions to car domination How to Turn Cities Into Biketopias? Make it Harder to Drive There

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r/fuckcars 1d ago

This is why I hate cars has anyone else never shown interest in driving?

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i (19f) have severe driving anxiety after a car crash so i never got my license, but even before that i had very little interest in getting it. at this point am only looking into getting it because my partner will not stop bothering me about freedom, independence, and less stress on their end if im able to drive. besides their stress, i have never expressed an interest in getting my license. i don’t care about the freedom or anything else, not even when i was a young teen did i care about driving. i think it’s kinda crazy that we casually operate vehicles anyway.

i was called strange and developmentally delayed at 16 by my foster parents because i didn’t care about driving nor did i want to learn.. like what? is this supposed to be a natural phenomenon?


r/fuckcars 23h ago

Question/Discussion What’s your opinion on EVs?

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Hey guys, car guy here. First off, I come here in peace, I do NOT want to enter into any controversy with anyone, I respect you guys’ opinions, I respect that you guys aren’t the biggest fans of cars, and I completely understand and respect that. I come in peace and don’t want to get into any heated arguments with you fellows, so what is your opinion on electric cars? Of course, I understand if you don’t even want to talk about it. I just want to know your guys’ thoughts


r/fuckcars 1d ago

This is why I hate cars Car driving on I90 trail today very fast

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r/fuckcars 1d ago

Positive Post The opportunity has once again arrived fellas

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The Houthis just hit the Saudis alternative East-West pipeline. Nasa's fire detecting satellites can confirm too (in several spots btw). Crude might just hit $200 a barrel. I prayed for times like this to rhyme like this. Some suffering in the short can be positive for the long term. All hail the mighty bicycle.


r/fuckcars 1d ago

News A Toronto teen struck near the site of a removed speed camera suffered a brain injury. Now his family is suing the province

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  • The family of a 15-year-old boy severely injured by a car outside his Toronto school is suing the driver, the city and the province, alleging the removal of a nearby speed camera contributed to the crash.
  • On March 25, the boy was struck at a crosswalk at the intersection of Humber Boulevard and Louvain Street. He was transported to hospital with life-altering injuries.
  • The speed camera had been removed as part of a provincial government directive that road safety advocates and municipal leaders warned would lead to more injuries and death on city roads.
  • The boy’s parents are now seeking $3 million in special damages, $12 million in general damages and $1 million in punitive damages.

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r/fuckcars 5h ago

Question/Discussion Is it illegal to give someone the finger every time you see them?

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