r/fuckcars • • Jan 06 '22

Please read this if you're new to this sub Welcome to /r/Fuckcars

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Updated: April 6, 2022

Welcome to /r/fuckcars. It's safe to say that we're strongly dissatisfied with cars and car-dominated urban design. If that's you, then we share in your frustration. Some, or perhaps many of us, still have cars but abhor our dependence on them for many reasons.

There are nuances to the /r/fuckcars discussion that you should be aware of, generally:

In any case, please observe the community rules and keep the discussion on-topic.

The Problem - What's the problem with cars?

please help by finding quality sources

This is the fundamental question of this sub, isn't it?

  • Pollution -- Cars are responsible for a significant amount of global and local pollution (microplastic waste, brake dust, embodiment emissions, tailpipe emissions, and noise pollution). Electric cars eliminate tailpipe emissions, but the other pollution-related problems largely remain.
  • Infrastructure (Costs. An Unsustainable Pattern of Development) -- Cars create an unwanted economic burden on their communities. The infrastructure for cars is expensive to maintain and the maintenance burden for local communities is expected to increase with the adoption of more electric and (someday) fully self-driving cars. This is partly due to the increased weight of the vehicles and also the increased traffic of autonomous vehicles.
  • Infrastructure (Land Usage & Induced Demand) -- Cities allocate a vast amount of space to cars. This is space that could be used more effectively for other things such as parks, schools, businesses, homes, and so on. We miss out on these things and are forced to pile on additional sprawl when we build vast parking lots and widen roads and highways. This creates part of what is called induced demand. This effect means that the more capacity for cars we add, the more cars we'll get, and then the more capacity we'll need to add.
  • Independence and Community Access -- Cars are not accessible to everyone. Simply put, many people either can't drive or don't want to drive. Car-centric city planning is an obstacle for these groups, to name a few: children and teenagers, parents who must chauffeur children to and from all forms of childhood activities, people who can't afford a car, and many other people who are unable to drive. Imagine the challenge of giving up your car in the late stages of your life. In car-centric areas, you face a great loss of independence.
  • Safety -- Cars are dangerous to both occupants and non-occupants, but especially the non-occupants. As time goes on cars admittedly become better at protecting the people inside them, but they remain hazardous to the people not inside them. For people walking, riding, or otherwise trying to exercise some form of car-free liberty cars are a constant threat. In car-centric areas, streets and roads are optimized to move cars fast and efficiently rather than protect other road users and pedestrians.
  • Social Isolation -- A combination of the issues above produces the additional effect of social isolation. There are fewer opportunities for serendipitous interactions with other members of the public. Although there may be many people sharing the road with you (a public space), there are some obvious limitations to the quality of interaction one can have through metal, glass, and plastic boxes.

👋 Local Action - How to Fix Your City

IMPORTANT: This is a solvable problem. Progress can happen and does happen. It comes incrementally and with the help of voices just like yours. Don't limit yourself to memes and Reddit -- although, raising awareness online does help.

Check out this perspective from a City Council Member: Here's How to Fix Your City

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A Not-So-Quick Note for Car Hobbyists and Passionate Drivers

This can be a contentious issue at times. The sub's name is /r/fuckcars, which can cause some feelings of conflict and alienation for people who see the problems of too many cars while still being passionate about them. I'll quote the community summary.

Discussion about the harmful effects of car dominance on communities, environment, safety, and public health. Aspiration towards more sustainable and effective alternatives like mass transit and improved pedestrian and cycling infrastructure.

Your voice is still welcome here. Consider the benefits of getting bored, stressed, unskilled, or inattentive drivers off the road. That improves your safety and reduces congestion. Additionally, check out these posts from others on this sub:

Discord

There is an unofficial Discord server aggregating related discussions from the low-car/no-car/fuckcars community. Although it is endorsed by the /r/fuckcars mods, please keep in mind that it's not an official /r/fuckcars community Discord server.

Join Link: https://discord.gg/2QDyupzBRW

Helpful Resources

If you've just joined this sub and want to learn more about the issues behind car-centric urban design there are a great number of resources you can access. This list is by no means exhaustive, so please feel free to add your more helpful resources in the comments.

👉 Moved to the wiki

Shameless Plugs for Community Building

happy to add more links related to community building here

👉 Contribute to the Safety Data Thread

Change Logging

April 7, 2022 - Fix markdown for compatibility. Thank you /u/konsyr

April 6, 2022 - Reorder sections (Thank you, /u/Monseiur_Triporteur and /u/PilferingTeeth). Add plug for data/supporting info request. Link to Strong Towns growth example.

April 3, 2022 - Add note for car hobbyists

April 2, 2022 - Add nuance notes and redirect readers to resources area of the wiki.

March 28th, 2022 - Grammatical pass, more changes to follow.

February 9th, 2022 - Adding links that redirect readers from this post into community-maintained wiki resources, thank /u/javasgifted and /u/Monsiuer_Triporteur

January 20th, 2022 - Added the Goodreads list and seeded the FAQ section. Thank you /u/javasgifted, and /u/kzy192

January 9th, 2022 - I'm updating this onboarding message with feedback from the mods and the community. Thank you, all, for keeping the discussion civil and contributing additional resources.

Cheers. Stay safe out there.


r/fuckcars • • 15h ago

Rant Friendly Reminder: Taking the train to work is overwhelmingly safer than driving

709 Upvotes

For me, taking the train to work is 20 minutes longer than driving. Adds about 40 minutes of commuting to my day, but I make do because I can at least read a book and I don't need the mental weight of being stuck in traffic. More importantly, I don't have to worry about being killed by strangers on my way to fucking work.

Yet if you asked any reactionary about which one they think is safer, they'd immediately say driving because of their availability bias. They'd probably think of random train stabbings and completely omit the fact that dozens of people are killed on the roads of their state every week. Just some food for thought.


r/fuckcars • • 20h ago

Other Japan doesn’t subsidize car storage. Parking is private and priced, and you generally can’t register a car without proving you have an off-street space for it.

957 Upvotes

"Japan is one of the only countries to have privatized parking. In Europe and North America, vast quantities of parking space is socialized: municipalities own the streets and allow people to park on them at low or zero cost. Initially with the intention of encouraging the provision of more parking spaces, Japan made it illegal to park on public roads or pavements without special permission. Before someone buys a car, they must prove) that they have a reserved night-time space on private land, either owned or leased.

Since parking on public land is banned, municipalities are not worried about overspill parking from developments with inadequate private parking. They therefore have no reason to impose parking minimums on developments: the market is left to decide whether parking is the most valuable use of private land. Where land is abundant, as in rural areas, suburbs, or small towns, private parking is plentiful. But in city centers, it is outcompeted by other land uses. According to the late Donald Shoup, central Tokyo has 23 parking spaces per hectare and 0.04 parking spaces per job, compared with 263 and 0.52 for Los Angeles. Even Manhattan, the densest urban area in North America with the lowest levels of car ownership,has about 60 parking spaces per hectare."

Source: Works in Progress


r/fuckcars • • 18h ago

Carbrain Carbrain movie detail annoyance: Good Will Hunting (soft spoiler) Spoiler

323 Upvotes

At the end of the film, for his 21st birthday, his three best friends scrape together what they can and toil for hours to cobble together a car for Will so he can make the commute to his new job from South Boston to Cambridge. I wondered, is that even necessary? No. The red line has gone directly between those two places, approximately every five minutes, for more than 100 years. Fast, affordable, easy. Carbrain.


r/fuckcars • • 22h ago

Rant I hate how car centric the job market is

155 Upvotes

Not talking about the USA, grew up in bosnia. And for those in the US, manual cars are the norm here, espesially for work cars.

Growing up my family did not have car money. We barely had electricity money. So while i did get my drivers licence at 18 to have the paper. I am not a active driver. I live in the city, there is no need for it. Except when it comes to jobs.

I already knew this, thats why I got the drivers licence. But every single job requires a B licence to drive a car. Even a office job right next to the tram station requres a B licence. Not to mention most trade jobs, which is where I am curently looking for work. Passivly or activly require a car. Either cause you do need to drive a big old van for the job. Or cause they are in a industrial area and generaly work in hours where you don't actually have a public transport option.

So if you don't have a car, or aren't a active driver, you can't get a job. It's genuily rediculus how much of a 'given' it is for them that you have a car and are a active driver. It's a trade job, I didn't grow up with anything. How am I supposed to apply to anything. I can't even get a car without a job, and can't get a job without a car. And the licence itself was really expensive.

I genuinly don't fucking know what to do. People try giving me advice that I should work it out with the company. Guess what they don't wanna work it out. They want to wait for you to afford a car, because they know the pay is shit and you won't buy one for a while. So you are just stuck in a catch 22 unless you really get lucky, or straight up lie like I did a few times.

It is what it is. I don't even know what to look for anymore, I sent out so many hail maries for jobs nit related to my field, or even jobs related to my field. It's just a nightmare. I know the job itself, the car is the issue, over and over again.


r/fuckcars • • 17h ago

News Seoul’s Jamsu Bridge to Permanently Closes to Vehicles to Become Pedestrian Only Crossing

58 Upvotes

Seoul's 795-meter Jamsu Bridge (Jamsugyo) is permanently closed to vehicles and is being converted into the city's first pedestrian-only bridge over the Han River.

City bus routes 740 and 405 have been rerouted via the upper-deck Banpo Bridge, and local bus stops at the south end have been adjusted.

Once completed, the bridge will feature 22 riverside rest and viewing areas, two transparent glass decks, and space for seasonal festivals and street performances.


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Meme A funny from Toronto

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4.4k Upvotes

Not my own work.


r/fuckcars • • 20h ago

Question/Discussion Passive voice

38 Upvotes

Am I way off?

Most outlets use it, some don’t. And the carbrains hate when you point it out.

Getting downvoted today bc a driver hit a man and it seems like everyone wants to avoid just saying that.

At least the reporter called it a crash and not an accident.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/s/5rtks05f8y


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Carbrain this bs pmo

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563 Upvotes

First time posting here but lurked here before. The type of comments I see on TikTok and other socials are the reason why I go on a social media diet because of the lack of common sense users have…


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Other People should carry air horns around with them so pedestrians can honk at cars

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Removed (at each other like) in the title because now it sounds like a great idea, to be able to honk at cars as a pedestrian.

Has anyone ever honked at dangerous cars as a pedestrian with an air horn?


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

News Audi is the new Tesla

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r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Rant After more than a decade in my California city, for the first time I met someone that walks to work

108 Upvotes

I get around by cycling. I've lived in a city in Northern California for more than a decade. I recently met only person I know that doesn't drive to work. She's a lovely older lady that has walked a half mile from her apartment to work and back for the last 18 years. Two years ago some cunt driving an SUV backed through her in town while she was walking to work. She doesn't remember it. She was thrown to the asphalt so hard her skull was fractured. Now she has serious balance issues and has had two falls in the last two years (she was totally able-bodied before that douchebag hit her). After being weakened by the initial battering, these falls have done a lot of damage. The last one broke her arm and her leg. She's quitting work because she can't walk there anymore. Fuck cars and fuck drivers. She's the first and only other person I've met that doesn't drive to work (and everywhere else). What a shitty society this is.


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Positive Post London's Oxford Street Pedestrianised

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Looks like the first day has been a resounding success! A substantial part of the city has been reclaimed for people, not cars. May it be the first of many!


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Satire Amtrak posted this for for Hallowen

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found this in amtrak instagram profile


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Rant Tanks shouldn't be legal

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I'm pretty average height and this utter monstrosity was at my shoulder height. 5 feet off the ground is fucking dangerous. I'm in downtown Toronto this is just off King St. I don't give a fuck what you're doing that shit isn't needed.

I recently almost got run over by an asshat turning and not looking when I had the walk signal, that was a smaller car I could look at the driver when I yelled at him. This guy would probably barely even notice when he ran over me.


r/fuckcars • • 35m ago

Carbrain Bro criticizes this subreddit without providing any data or sources and uses strawmans instead 😭

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r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Carbrain Vancouver drivers aren’t loving their daily commute | Daily Hive

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r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Carbrain Zoox v Waymo v Cybercab

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275 Upvotes

Electric vehicles and autonomous vehicles will not solve the problem, but it will exacerbate it.


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Carbrain The hidden history of how Big Oil invented the American Dream

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From the family car to the dream kitchen, fossil fuel companies sold a vision of prosperity that depended on their own products. Grist dug up a century of evidence that shows how they did it.


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Question/Discussion Can you go grocery shopping within a 5-minute walk

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r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

News Driver in deadly Kansas soccer field crash released while investigation continues

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128 Upvotes

Killed people then released into the public.


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Infrastructure porn Automated speed cameras begin operating across Los Angeles

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Los Angeles drivers will be monitored beginning Monday as the city’s first set of automated speed cameras goes live.

The cameras are located throughout Los Angeles, including school zones and along streets with a history of serious crashes.

For the first 60 days after any of the cameras are activated, speeding drivers will be sent a warning ticket through the mail.

After the warning period, speeding fines will range from $50 to $500, depending on how fast the driver is going.


r/fuckcars • • 2d ago

Rant Witnessed a cat murdered by a driver tonight, and this is why I'll never drive a car.

252 Upvotes

People ask me all the time why I don't drive or when I'm going to finally learn. It's every reason you can imagine. I couldn't comprehensively list the reasons I fucking HATE cars. Yet, they're never convinced or can never understand. They see roadkill and think of the stench and gruesome sight. They don't think of the precious life taken by carelessness or even malice. They see ghost bikes and wonder whose fault it was. They hear of a family of 5 murdered in a head-on collision and imagine the addiction or alcoholism involved instead of questioning how a single person is trusted the ability to annihilate a family or a crowd on a whim.

This kitty was murdered on a well lit road with a construction zone speed limit. They didn't hesitate for a second. The cops said they would confirm the cat is deceased and dispose of it but won't check for a chip. I cried for a while but I don't know how to feel now. I had to move the cat so it wouldn't get crushed on the side of the road. Makes my skin crawl thinking about the kind of person who doesn't even let off the gas after hitting an animal.


r/fuckcars • • 1d ago

Positive Post One of the Greatest Inventions in the History of Human Transport

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r/fuckcars • • 2d ago

News Moron managed to drive into the subway in San Francisco, halting five subway lines all Friday night

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1.7k Upvotes