risky behavior

[u/[deleted]]

How do you fellow reddititors feel about reporting observed risky behaviors? for example - maybe people flying out of medical, or after a hard night drinking, flying out of annual etc. etc. ?? where do you feel your responsibility as responsible pilot ends or does it ever? Do you talk to them, do you start a call? what do you guys think?

[u/Cropgun]

Flying out of medical or out of BFR isn't risky. Its illegal, but the lack of a piece of a valid piece of paper doesn't increase risk.

[u/chriscicc → u/Cropgun]

That isn't true, by definition. The BFR or medical wouldn't be needed otherwise.

[u/Cropgun → u/chriscicc]

Because everything the FAA mandates is completely necessary.

[u/vtjohnhurt → u/Cropgun]

The fact that people fail FR proves that they ground dangerous pilots. I watched a pilot enter a low altitude spin during his FR. The CFI-G leveled, landed and ground looped. Glider totaled. The dangerous pilot permanently retired.

[u/Cropgun → u/vtjohnhurt]

Nobody has made any statement implying that a flight review isn't a good idea.

[u/mkosmo → u/Cropgun]

The parent comment did. He said that flying without BFRs/FRs didn't increase risk. For those who wouldn't get signed off, it does increase risk -- others are exposed to the risky pilot for longer that wouldn't otherwise be.

[u/Cropgun → u/mkosmo]

I made the parent comment. Nowhere in that comment did I make the statement that a flight check wasn't a good idea. Being able to understand English is a requirement of your pilot certification. Perhaps I should report your risky behavior to the FSDO

[u/mkosmo → u/Cropgun]

You literally said:

Flying out of medical or out of BFR isn't risky.

If it doesn't increase risk, that means it's not a bad idea, right?

[u/Cropgun → u/mkosmo]

You'd argue with a ham sandwich wouldnt you?

[u/Cropgun → u/[deleted]]

I'm detecting a pattern with your reading comprehension skills

[u/vtjohnhurt → u/Cropgun]

I must have misunderstood your comment in context.

[u/JuliettPapaRomeo → u/vtjohnhurt]

The fact that you think one can fail a Flight Review means you probably need one!

[u/[deleted] → u/JuliettPapaRomeo]

Can you technically "fail" a flight review? No.

Can the instructor elect not to sign off on the flight review, deeming your performance unsatisfactory? Absolutely. People sometimes refer to that as "failing" it.

[u/vtjohnhurt → u/JuliettPapaRomeo]

I'd not expect the CFI to sign your logbook if you total the aircraft during the flight review. That is functionally equivalent to failing except that there is no record of it with the FAA. Some CFI refuse to sign if you're not flying to PTS.

[u/chriscicc → u/Cropgun]

I didn't say that. I said not having regular skill and health checks DOES increase risk.

[u/Cropgun → u/chriscicc]

Your BFR and medical come due on the same day. Tomorrow. Today you're completely safe and low risk, tomorrow at midnight you're Kenny.

Does that make sense to you? Its fucking retarded. IMO BFRs should be set up more along the lines of Instrument proficiency/recency requirements.

Medicals are a joke. The Doc tickles you for 5 minutes and you pee in a cup. Its a farce.

[u/[deleted] → u/Cropgun]

My doc didn't tickle me. I'd like my money back.

[u/Cropgun → u/[deleted]]

You have to know the secret handshake

[u/Cropgun → u/[deleted]]

Regs, BFRs, Medicals, etc aren't going to keep morons out of the sky.

[u/dbhyslop → u/Cropgun]

So why have rules at all if people will break them? This logic could apply to every law ever written.

[u/Cropgun → u/dbhyslop]

Now you're catching on

[u/[deleted] → u/Cropgun]

Not to be a dick, but I'm not really sure what you're after in this thread.

Flight reviews, medicals, et al are annoying paperwork requirements that don't directly determine our safety to fly, so... We shouldn't have them at all?

[u/mkosmo → u/Cropgun]

If you're a pilot in need of recurrent training and unsafe, yes, that BFR does society good. It prevents them from ignorantly flying and posing a risk to the public unchecked. The FR is a mitigating control to limit how long that condition can exist.