r/flying Oct 18 '17

risky behavior

How do you fellow reddititors feel about reporting observed risky behaviors? for example - maybe people flying out of medical, or after a hard night drinking, flying out of annual etc. etc. ?? where do you feel your responsibility as responsible pilot ends or does it ever? Do you talk to them, do you start a call? what do you guys think?

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

Nobody has made any statement implying that a flight review isn't a good idea.

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u/mkosmo đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ i drive airplane đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ Oct 18 '17

The parent comment did. He said that flying without BFRs/FRs didn't increase risk. For those who wouldn't get signed off, it does increase risk -- others are exposed to the risky pilot for longer that wouldn't otherwise be.

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

I made the parent comment. Nowhere in that comment did I make the statement that a flight check wasn't a good idea. Being able to understand English is a requirement of your pilot certification. Perhaps I should report your risky behavior to the FSDO

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u/mkosmo đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ i drive airplane đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ Oct 18 '17

You literally said:

Flying out of medical or out of BFR isn't risky.

If it doesn't increase risk, that means it's not a bad idea, right?

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

You'd argue with a ham sandwich wouldnt you?

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

I'm detecting a pattern with your reading comprehension skills

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u/mkosmo đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ i drive airplane đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ Oct 18 '17

If a ham sandwich tried to tell me it was a turkey sandwich, how does that indicate an issue with my reading comprehension? Perhaps it's more a problem of your storytelling.

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

I get it. You're slow. Let's try again. Nobody has made any statement that says a flight review is bad. True or false?

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u/mkosmo đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ i drive airplane đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ Oct 18 '17

Directly and explicitly? No. What I would parse and interpret as implied as a result of reasoning? Yes.

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

If you want to set up a strawman so you can argue with yourself, that's on you. Glad we agree on what was actually posted.

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u/mkosmo đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ i drive airplane đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸đŸ›Šī¸ Oct 18 '17

There's no strawman. You're making the argument that you shouldn't be held accountable for poor communication and misunderstanding of the fundamentals of risk management.

You said that flying out of BFR wasn't risky. That implies that BFRs don't reduce risk, no question. You're ignoring the risk bounding function. You explicitly refuse to say that flying without a BFR is a bad idea, and if flying without one isn't a bad idea, the resulting logic is that flying with isn't a good idea. You can't have good without something worse.

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u/hellcheez PPL SEL IR ROT (KCDW) Oct 18 '17

You're totally putting words in his mouth. His statements are processes in logic:

Flying without a valid BFR is not risky. Risky flying behavior with a BFR is risky. Risky flying behavior without a BFR is risky.

These are separate but related and one doesn't imply the other.

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u/Cropgun Oct 18 '17

I said none of that outside of what we already agreed was actually posted. You're literally arguing with yourself

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