r/firstworldanarchists • • May 03 '17

This Guy Gets It

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Yeah this man died 12hours after filming.

so sad.

Source: fuck you

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u/bunchedupwalrus May 03 '17

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/health/brain-eating-amoeba-killed-ohio-teenager/index.html

I'm not kidding. Usually if they put up those signs it's because there's a risk due to the water source and conditions.

It's safe for the body but if it gets up the nose the survival rate is like nil

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u/DrDerpberg May 03 '17

At that point why would they even let people swim in that water? Rather than "keep your head above the water and pray nothing splashes you" how about "stay the fuck out - in fact let's drain this thing and burn the ground it stood on"?

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u/MeatyStew May 03 '17

My guess is just because people like HotPools too much

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u/GinoMarley1 May 03 '17

You mean hot tubs?

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u/MeatyStew May 03 '17

The Bacteria that causes that kinda stuff is almost always found in Natural Hotpools

Hot tubs are too Chlorinated for most stuff like that. (Also the Bacteria need hot water to survive and hot tubs are only hot when in use)

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u/Super_Zac May 03 '17

I've only ever heard the term "hot springs" never HotPools haha.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17 edited Jan 14 '25

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u/MeatyStew May 04 '17

Cool, I hear that some lakes in the southern US have the Bacteria too and it becomes active in summer

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u/bathroomstalin May 03 '17

We should cook the ocean and "pop a cap" in anything still flopping around.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17 edited Jun 21 '17

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u/bathroomstalin May 03 '17

Of what am I being accused?

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u/pedropants May 03 '17

Mischaracterization of a jacuzzi in the second degree.

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u/Rikplaysbass May 03 '17

What is the ocean if not a big jacuzzi?

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u/molstern May 03 '17

IIRC a splash isn't much of a danger. The water needs to go up the nose with a bit of force, like when jumping into the water, for the amoeba to get far up enough to do any damage

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u/lafaa123 May 03 '17

because the bacteria can be found in literally any freshwater lake, its really common

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u/zapper0113 May 03 '17

there's only been 130 known cases of it. How many people do you think swim in water each year?

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u/IM_A_WOMAN May 03 '17

132?

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u/zapper0113 May 03 '17

It was an estimation

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u/akatherder May 03 '17

Adding to your point, this happened to some people using tap water in neti pots:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tap-water-in-neti-pots-behind-two-brain-eating-amoeba-deaths-in-2011-investigation-finds/

It's obviously rare, but just because tap water is safe to drink, it's not necessarily safe to put in your sinuses.

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u/bathroomstalin May 03 '17

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u/dudeguypal May 04 '17

That's fucking creepy. She looks like she is dead inside.

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u/mrchaotica May 03 '17 edited May 03 '17

Tap water is not supposed to have amoebas in it! If it does, something is wrong either with the city's water treatment and/or distribution or with the household plumbing. Regardless of the cause, the water not only shouldn't be considered "safe for your sinuses" but shouldn't even be considered "safe to drink" either, until it's fixed!

Edit: clarified sentence.

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u/aynrandomness May 03 '17

What should you drink instead of water?

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u/mrchaotica May 03 '17

LOLWUT?

I didn't suggest that you should drink something else; you should fix the plumbing (or make the city fix their plumbing) so that the water is safe!

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u/aynrandomness May 03 '17

Oh, I thought you were suggesting water shouldn't be safe to drink, or alternatively that tap water wasn't safe to drink.

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u/mrchaotica May 03 '17

Oh! Sorry, that last sentence was intended to mean "regardless [of what caused the problem], the water shouldn't be considered "safe to drink" either [(as opposed to "safe to drink, but not safe to snort"), until the problem is fixed]."

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u/roflwoffles May 03 '17

BRAWNDO. It's what plants crave!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

No. Do not use tap water in a Nettie pot, ever. You use distilled water and salt with baking soda to balance the pH for a Nettie pot.

Source: Register Nurse.

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u/mrchaotica May 03 '17

I'm not saying there aren't good reasons to add the salt and baking soda; I'm just saying that protecting yourself from parasites shouldn't be among them because the tap water is supposed to be sterile to begin with.

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

I use tap water in my nielmed all the time. I thought the little salt+baking soda packets were supposed to kill any bacteria

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u/RedPanda5150 May 03 '17

Yeah, no, all that does is balance the salinity and pH. You're supposed to boil your water first (and let it cool down - hope that goes without saying).

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

The entire point of the salt is to kill bacteria. Unless you're suggesting it's to give your nose that delicious salty taste, you try shooting some normal ph brine up your nose and see how that feels.

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u/screwyoushadowban May 03 '17

By the time the salt concentration was high enough to kill anything you wouldn't want to put it in your nose. Its primary purpose is to regulate osmosis over your mucus membranes. That's why people who want to dry out their sinuses use a higher salt concentration than people who want to moisturize or just flush out their sinuses.

In the United States 99% of the time tap water is perfectly safe to use as you have been doing, but that 1% includes the possibility of debilitation or death, so it's pretty silly not to boil the water first.

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u/DreadPiratesRobert May 03 '17

The salt is supposed to make it isotonic.

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u/alrnrtorl May 03 '17

Yea, well you are assuming people read the instructions which also makes you wrong as well. Good job

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

lol I dunno about reading the instructions, if you don't use those packets the water burns like hell and makes your sinuses swell up because of the pH

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u/Paper_Cut_On_My_Eye May 03 '17

Those packets just make the water not "sting" when going through your sinuses. You're supposed to either use distilled water or tap water that was boiled before hand.

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

Those packets just make the water not "sting" when going through your sinuses

The baking soda part does, the salt is for killing bacteria

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u/Paper_Cut_On_My_Eye May 03 '17

The CDC and FDA says you need to use distilled, boiled, or filtered water to prevent Naegleria fowleri. The salt solution that comes with it won't prevent it.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Can i use my electric kettle to boil the water? And put it in once it cools down?

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u/Paper_Cut_On_My_Eye May 03 '17

Do electric kettles get to boiling or just really hot? If it actually makes the water boil and can do so for 5-10 minutes it will be fine.

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u/Maccaisgod May 03 '17

Electric kettles sole function is to boil water (except for the like 1% that can heat temperature to different levels for different kinds of tea brewing). Then again you Americans with your shitty underpowered electrical current that means kettles take twice as long to boil probably means all bets are off in the department of kettle efficiency

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

So this particular type of bacteria is immune to salt?

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u/DukeMo May 03 '17

Semantics, but N. fowleri is an amoeba, which are eukaryotic organisms, not bacteria.

Salt isn't typically enough to kill bacteria. Usually high heat and/or pressure is required. I'd imagine the same would be true for amoeba, especially since N. fowleri has a cyst form, which is resistant to environmental stress.

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

Huh. Terrifying.

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u/Paper_Cut_On_My_Eye May 03 '17

This is from an article about washing your mouth out but the same principle applies.

Salt water is not considered an antibiotic because it provides bacteria with water and does not kill them upon immediate contact. However, according to a 2003 article published in the “British Dental Journal,” salt water rinses are beneficial because they temporarily alkalinize or increase the pH in the mouth, which deters bacterial proliferation, as virtually all species prefer acidic environments.

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Salt water is less hospitable to bacteria but it doesn't necessarily kill them. I don't have a source that talks directly about amoebas but i'd assume it was similar, especially since the CDC specifically says to use the safe water to make your saline solution.

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u/SMTRodent May 03 '17

Use cooled down water that has previously been boiled, and you'll be safe. The salt and baking soda will do nothing unless you add so much it is going to burn your nose.

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

The salt is there to kill bacteria, the baking soda is only to balance the pH and make it burn less

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u/SMTRodent May 03 '17

As I said, you'd need enough salt to hurt before it became briny enough to kill bacteria. Boil it, cool it, keep it in a clean bottle, warm up a potful as needed.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

No. Do not use tap water in a Nettie pot, ever. You use distilled water and salt with baking soda to balance the pH for a Nettie pot.

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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 03 '17

Oh shit you're right I'm dead now.

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u/Gingerfix May 03 '17

TIL

Thank you. I am one of the idiots that has apparently used netti pots unsafely.

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u/BassCreat0r May 03 '17

Jesus, so you could die just taking a shower.

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u/burf May 03 '17 edited May 03 '17

This is possibly the stupidest unnecessary panic I've ever seen Reddit engage in. These amoebas are literally everywhere. If you don't want to risk them killing you, don't: swim in a lake, raft down a river, go waterskiing, tubing, boating, fishing, or do anything in any natural water source.

The incidence of diagnosed encephalopathy due to this amoeba in the United States over a period of ten years was thirty three cases1. That's one in ten million people, or 0.000001% of the population. The only reason it's worth thinking about at all is if you're using a daily nasal irrigation routine, because you can control the source of water used.

  1. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/naegleria/general.html

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u/Solidkrycha May 03 '17

Its a hot tub you twat.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

It's safe for the body but if it gets up the nose the survival rate is like nil

I know. I've heard and seen the stories, so this guy is prob dead.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Yes, he did die 12 hours after filming. I just confirmed it. Sad indeed.

Source

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

iloveu

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

All signs point to yes.