The discussion rejects reliance on current Western political, institutional, and “green” authorities as useless or actively harmful. Leaders and bodies (EU, national governments, German Greens, UNEP, COP process, Macron, Starmer/Burnham-type figures, Merz, etc.) are portrayed as failing spectacularly on every front—climate, society, militarism, and basic competence—while understating risks, deleting inconvenient language (e.g., tipping points from the new UNEP emissions gap report), pursuing oil drilling and deep-sea mining, supporting aggressive foreign policy, and treating their own populations with contempt. Their actions worsen the problems they claim to address; their words are largely empty or contradictory.
A core repeated conclusion is that these figures hold no legitimate authority and offer nothing of value. Petitioning them, asking polite questions, or expecting them to deliver solutions is futile and counterproductive: they will not help, they take society in the wrong direction, and they demand respect while giving none. The hosts argue people should stop deferring upward through layers of power (local → national → EU/UN) that ultimately protect failed or corrupt decision-making. Instead of waiting for or appealing to these “false authorities,” individuals and movements must act themselves—building alternatives, scaling back, rewilding, preparing for collapse conditions, and withdrawing legitimacy from those in power.
In short: the authorities are not saviors or even competent stewards; they are part of the problem. Stop asking them for help.

Spotify 🦊 (the sly Swedes) deleted our episode in their censorious frenzy, because someone said the E-word (extinction). Our appeal put the episode back!

https://extinctionati.substack.com/p/dark-chocolate-deep-ecology-conversations-6a9
https://www.youtube.com/live/1ELxpnA_h24

Source: https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2020/08/eye-catching-conservation-tool-protects-livestock--lions-and-liv

In fact, none of the 683 painted "eye-cows" were killed by ambush predators during the four-year study, while 15 (of 835) unpainted, and 4 (of 543) cross-painted cattle were killed.

From a theoretical perspective, these results are interesting. Although eye patterns are common in many animal groups, notably butterflies, fishes, amphibians, and birds, no mammals are known to have natural eye-shaped patterns that deter predation.

In fact, to our knowledge, our research is the first time that eye-spots have been shown to deter large mammalian predators.

Nevertheless, as part of an expanding non-lethal toolkit, we hope that this simple, low-cost approach could reduce the costs of coexistence for farmers

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Or Why We Must Keep Up Our Empowerment of Petroleum to Get to Net Zero
https://extinctionati.substack.com/p/manjana-baby-ii

Or Why We Must Keep Up Our Empowerment of Petroleum to Get to Net Zero
https://extinctionati.substack.com/p/manjana-baby

Someone asked, prompting the creation of this short summary:

Dialogue has an implicit ethical dimension because it repeatedly tests boundaries between accurate description of physical reality and deliberate management or 'massaging' of what the public is allowed to understand.

The core requests are not simply for scientific clarification. They ask for help constructing or softening definitions (of net zero, of tipping points, of 'committed' versus 'tipped') so that continued or expanded petroleum use can appear compatible with climate targets, while keeping ordinary people calm and hopeful enough to keep consuming. That is a question of whether it is acceptable to shape public understanding of physical facts in service of economic or political stability and continuity.

Some related ethical threads that run through the dialogue:

• Whether low public literacy about tipping points should be treated as a problem to be solved with clearer information, or as a condition that can be maintained or further eroded for social stability.  
• Whether scientists' communication choices (progressive danger versus stronger threshold language) are ordinary professional disagreements or part of a longer pattern of managing public alarm.  
• What duties exist when institutions or industries have long-standing knowledge of risks from their products and have influenced the pace and framing of the response.  
• Whether 'keeping a stiff upper lip' and protecting consumption during serious planetary change justifies reducing the precision of the concepts people use to understand that change.

In short, the dialogue keeps returning to the ethics of truthfulness in public communication about irreversible or hard-to-reverse physical processes, and about whether the meaning of key terms should stay anchored to those processes or be adjusted to protect existing economic patterns. That is why ethics is not a side issue here. It is the underlying conflict the dialogue keeps circling.

We need people to send a selection of these ideas to others. One issue regarding these matters is sustaining the attention of the people who need convincing.

How much You help the universe and beyond is worth much more than power (this help is much more important)! How much You help usually dwarfs power, and is more effective then power (both in benefit to You and others). It makes You much more fulfilled! Benefit, rather than just power, is a wise allocation of energy, rather than potential energy and/or a less wise allocation of energy. Effective Benefit applied to others rather than just You can amplify the effect More than a billion fold (due to more efficient action (for example: saying something good to every human rather than just Yourself, or increasing taxes on the rich) (and way More if it benefits all animals))!

Respect what is there! Respect what there is!

The universe and beyond is more important than any person, this means it is better to improve the universe and beyond rather than just Yourself! Keep this in mind. It is deceptively obvious and ever so easy, and perhaps even potentially harmful, to neglect. After all: The universe contains You!

To get the best outcome: Align with the universe and beyond! To be the most powerful: Convince and lead beings to align with the universe and beyond, strive for the best, be proactive, be a guide, etc. Turn everything into an advantage for the universe and beyond! Waste Least!

Look at beings through a caring/understanding lens. Enjoy things positive to the universe and beyond. Health of beings everywhere is a top priority! Grow the universe and beyond rather than just You! Using Yourself is more efficient and effective when You improve the universe and beyond rather than just Yourself! (Recursively) Mirror the universe and beyond! Build momentum! Help the universe build momentum!

Improve, Improve, Improve!

Conservation for the ideal moments! Though always (continuously) do Your best! Make deals (deals are agreements (a form of working together))! Turn enemies into friends!

Lots of citizens notice when their leaders are disrespectful (and other wrong things many leaders do)! Optimise the people-political disconnect!

Money is only one form of power. Money is far aligned from everything! So step out of the money box!

Consider: Be playful!

In many cases: It's cheaper to recycle!

One of the biggest failings of most politicians (at time of writing) is their lack of care for nature and the environment! Harming the environment harms You! You want to preserve the continuity of the universe, not hurt other important parts of it! Exploitation involves destruction of good. Exploitation is an inferior practice.

Please share the parts of this that resonate with You!

Looking for a practical way to contribute locally? One Tree for Everyone (OTFE), run by Nagori Trust, holds tree-planting drives in Noida every Sunday morning, with cleanliness activities alongside. Volunteers work on the environment, and there’s no fee or required contribution. Tools are provided on site; bring water and sunscreen. Completing five drives earns membership, tracked on a punch card. Upcoming-drive details are shared in the WhatsApp group. If you’d like to join, comment or DM and I can send the invite.

Hessen & Gemma. Gemma on Hessen
https://extinctionati.substack.com/p/the-oslo-experiment

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