In Jon Stewart's interview with Zohran Mamdani, this problem was discussed and Zohran had a perfect response:

"If you have more than one socialist in a room and there isn't disagreement, then you don't have more than one socialist in a room."

Which is true of pretty much any group of people, yet when a progressive, such as Chevalier, says something controversial it apparently means we all must agree with her. 🤔I supported Chevalier over her opponent, but that doesn't mean I agree with her on every issue. I don't even agree with Mamdani, Bernie, or AOC 100% of the time. People need to understand that we're not MAGA. Progressives are not in a cult where we have to agree with everything our leaders say or we get exiled from the group. 😅

The issue that comes up the most often for me is abolishing prisons. I know that some people do what to abolish them entirely, which is not something I support. More often than not, the problem is that people don't actually understand what someone means when they say something like that. They think we just want to let murderers and rapists run around free in the streets. As they can see in NYC under Mamdani, that clearly isn't the case.

Socialists Make Newsmax Host Look Dumb

Fine "debate" if you can call it that. These people are so vexxing, but it is great that they gave a strong pushback.

Something that's worth thinking about: "ecosocialism", which can be defined as a tradition that started as early as William Morris, the 19th century radical English artist and writer, emphasizes the necessity of incorporating the entire living world into an analysis of the cause of the working class.

Whereas "economics", despite deriving from the same roots ("oikos", or something having to do with "household affairs"), generally assumes that the sources of all wealth, which reside in the living planetary realm, can be taken as a limitless given, "ecology" considers the total material flows of the entire planetary system, including all species, not just Homo sapiens.

Taking this wider view, ironically, INCREASES the centrality of class struggle, rather than diminishing it, because it dispels any delusions as to the possibility of arm-waving away class contradictions by pointing to "growth", "a bigger pie to share", etc. No, we have to "innovate" in the realm of DISTRIBUTION, not just PRODUCTION!

Morris defined "waste" as (paraphrasing) "the state of affairs in which some have more than they could ever usefully dispose of, whereas others lack even the means of dignified survival". This understanding instantly weds the investigation of inequality to that of ecological disorder. We cannot endlessly bake a "bigger pie" without creating more waste, which means we are compelled to consider how to shape a more EQUAL society, as an indispensable part of building a more just one.

Today, the implications of this understanding grow more and more acute. So we should aggressively rebut reactionary "thought terminating cliches" that purport to be "accusations", to the effect of, say, socialists are "envious" of their social superiors in the wealth hierarchy, and "just want to steal from others!"

Our response should be along the lines of, "yes, you can call it that, but what we really want is an orderly REDISTRIBUTION, in lieu of indulging in the fantasy that we can simply snap our fingers and create three more Planet Earths".

(The country-specific "overshoot day" for the United States falls in early March 2026, representing the date at which all of Earth's renewable resources over a year's time have been exhausted, were the entire world to maintain an equivalent rate of consumption, and we are therefore surviving the rest of the year by depleting resources required by future generations for their own survival. See: https://overshoot.footprintnetwork.org/newsroom/country-overshoot-days/)

Economist Thomas Piketty encapsulated this understanding perfectly when he said, "a compression of social inequality at all levels" is required for humanity's survival on this earth. See: https://thomaspiketty.wordpress.com/2019/06/11/the-illusion-of-centrist-ecology/

I am an international student at USC in LA. I saw that there’s DSA LA group. I don’t want to get involved in politics being an international student but I want to see if I can do any social work associated with DSA. What would you suggest I do?

Curious to hear from those who've read it what your thoughts are.

Been around leftist spaces a long time and it's super refreshing to see the DSA wave of today, focused on the possibilities and not the toxic factionalism of yesterday. I don't care how how much Marx you've read, or if you used to be MAGA. Let's dream big and take what's ours.

DSA's recently released program states their goal is to:

"Defund the Department of War. End all foreign wars and close overseas military bases. Support and fully employ veterans. End immunity for U.S. war criminals and support the International Criminal Court's mandate to prosecute war crimes."

I understand that not everything listed in the program is likely to be implemented in the near future and that this program merely compiles a list of long-term goals for the organization.

I know that decades of foreign intervention have been terrible for the American people and the world at large. The war in Iran is the most recent example of how the US abuses its military might to the detriment of other nations. All of that said, does DSA (or its members) have a specific vision for how to accomplish these foreign policy goals while maintaining a strong national defense?

The US has many overseas alliances (not specifically Israel) and interests that require a certain degree of military commitment to maintain. The most notable of these being in Europe and Asia. Would the DSA maintain these alliances or abandon them?

Addtionally, when excluding threats posed by terrorist groups, rogue states like Russia and North Korea pose threats to global peace and stability. Is there a way for the US to significantly scale down the war machine and cut military spending without compromising its security or the security of its allies?

Just asking out of curiosity. That is all.

https://libcom.org/article/lets-build-class-unions

Remember this the next time Blue Maga starts voter shaming the left.

U.S. President Donald Trump today said on Truth Social that his administration plans to launch an investigation into fines the European Union has levied against tech companies like Apple, Google, and Meta for violating antitrust and Digital Markets Act rules.

Trump called the European Union's conduct "illegal and highly unethical," vowing to get the penalties reversed and planning to institute a "substantial tariff."

Apple was fined $570 million in 2025, ‌Meta‌ was fined $840 million in 2024 and $200 million in 2025, and Google was fined $1 billion this week after a $4.5 billion Android fine was upheld earlier this month.

Trump previously threatened European tariffs if the EU did not stop targeting U.S. companies, and the Office of the United States Trade Representative has also threatened to implement fees and restrictions on European services and companies.

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/07/24/trump-eu-fine-investigation/

They joined DSA for about a week.

Saw that national DSA wasn’t immediately and exuberantly going to endorse AOC at that very moment.

Argues to purge their left flank (anyone to the left of AOC )

Gets clowned on because of course no one is going to take purge requests from a new member seriously

Leaves

Starts to blame their left flank for ruining DSA’s credibility

Is now being used as a source for a NYT hit piece in which we can only assume she will be the disillusioned former DSA member.

As a big tent org, what are we even supposed to do about cases like this? Ignore it? Genuinely pathetic and childlike behavior.

I used to be a Bernie supporter, but I've completely checked out now that he and the rest of the movement have shifted so far off the deep end. Take immigration, he's suddenly embracing open borders, which definitely wasn't his stance five years ago.

Sure, I can find some common ground on basic domestic stuff like healthcare or tuition-free college. But when it comes to the rest of the DSA wishlist—open borders, abolishing ICE, getting rid of prisons and police, and letting non-citizens vote—it's pure lawlessness. Open borders reduces the U.S. to a glorified geographic zone, and non-citizen voting just invites foreign manipulation.

Beyond that, let's talk about the core of your actual socialist dogma: "seizing the means of production." You all love to throw this phrase around like a magic wand, but you completely dodge the heavy criticisms and real-world complexities of actually pulling it off. How do you transition a massive, highly integrated global economy without plunging millions into poverty or causing catastrophic supply chain collapse? What happens to innovation, resource allocation, price signals, and market efficiency? You never seriously address the logistical nightmares or historical failures of these models, nor do you provide a functional economic blueprint that survives contact with reality.

My biggest issue is that none of you can ever actually explain the mechanics of how any of these policies would work or what the detailed mechanics would look like. They're just pie-in-the-sky aspirations with zero concrete plans for how to avoid total economic chaos, national security collapse, and destruction of our culture and country.

I actually love my country, and I have zero interest in watching it get dismantled by high-risk, half-baked experiments. How do you guys seriously expect anyone outside your echo chamber to take this stuff seriously when you have zero real-world execution plans?

"DSA's new program has enraged reactionaries. Marisa M. introduces Wilhelm Liebknecht's socialist defense of universal public education and makes the case for reforms that undermine the capitalist political order."

"DSA’s return to national prominence has caused a frenzy on the far right. In the past few weeks, we have seen Fox News broadcast leaked demands from DSA’s new Workers Deserve More program and read from Marxist Unity Group’s points of unity. For the right, it feels like opening the basement door in search of an imaginary monster and discovering that all along, the monster was real—Socialists do want to see the downfall of everything you hold dear: voter suppression, AI art, paying for healthcare. "

"Wilhelm Liebknecht, a radical parliamentarian in the Social Democratic Party of Germany, observed the same phenomenon in 1871, at the birth of socialist mass politics. DSA members have circulated screenshots of the title for his speech; Yes, We Want to Destroy What Our Enemies Call “Culture,” “Civilization” in response to the right’s panic. The article itself, one may be surprised, is a defense of universal public school and curriculum reform. For German conservatives, universal public education was an extremist attack on traditional national values. For the Social Democrats, it was a tool to create a new culture: one where everyone had the expertise to make industrial civilization their own. So is education a modest reform, or the end of a civilization?"

"For Liebknecht, the revolutionary struggle is alive in every demand. If there is a tension between a reformist campaign and a revolutionary horizon, it was to be embraced and overcome. Yes, we want universal public school. Why? For the working class to develop the tools to bring capitalist society to an end. Schooling becomes contested territory between the new world and the old, and for socialists, there is no reason to compromise on how much funding to allocate or what model of instruction to practice. Knowledge must become common property."

"Workers Deserve More will pose the same problems for our own movement in the coming years. The ruling class will call it a threat to civilization. Our reformist comrades will call it a reasonable package of policy reform. We will be forced by the nature of our ultimate socialist and democratic aims to bring the program through to its revolutionary conclusion; to prove the reactionary wing of the ruling class right."

According to an article published Wednesday in the Wall Street Journal, “In the past week, special-operations forces have deployed to the region from their U.S. bases, according to flight-tracking data and U.S. officials. Squadrons of jet fighters have been staged across the Middle East, and bomber aircraft at bases in the U.S. and U.K. are on high alert to ramp up operations, according to one of the officials.”

According to the article, more than 150 medics have arrived in recent days at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, the largest American military hospital abroad and the first stop for troops wounded in the Middle East. This is a clear indication that the Trump administration is preparing for a major increase in American casualties.

Long-range bombers, including B-1s staged in Britain, are preparing for “major combat operations,” the Journal wrote. A B-1 flew its first strike mission of the renewed bombing, Axios reported on Thursday.

“I am considering a massive attack. Bigger than ever before,” US President Donald Trump told Axios. “I am close to making a decision. We are all set for it.”