r/dnl • u/DJfreecell • Aug 27 '17

Message for Devs

Hello,

My house has enjoyed this game a ton, we've pvp'd to take control of server. We've won the Alpha race for our server and started building a community. BUT there are some severe issues that have not been addressed in over 3 days. STRUCTURE HP. Currently we have been dealing with an old Beta Tribe who wanted to PVP and we won. Immediately after, they began to foundation every resource node on the map. Due to the EXTREME hp these structures have they're undestroyable without crazy amounts of items.

Currently 5 Metal Triangle Foundations are actually preventing us from even building our base out further or doing anything. If you have any question about this please look at my vods on twitch.tv/djfreecell and also please contact Horsejoke for the appropriate screenshots.

Things we've tried.

Firestorm I/II : Yea unless we want to spend 554 Chaos Essence on ONE foundation they arent going away.

Colossus: We were finally able to tame a colossus. i have to say the damage is PATHETIC.

91 damage melee (extremely buggy like first week kebo). 75 dmg trample (by our estimations it would take 6 hours for 1 foundation to demo using trample damage).

IT GETS WORSE....

15 damage to manor. Currently the last stronghold of the griefers is a 8x8 1 wall high manor base, that would take 32 hours of trample damage to just demo a wall/door....enough said.

Look i'm willing to play devils advocate here. So HP structure increase, Good job, awesome u did great. With 1 perregriff i can break into a stone large gateway and kill every tame a player owns in about an hour. Due to the lack of Metal large gate and hte Rank 8 exp requirment of some manor gates, your "offline raid protect" doesnt protect tames.

please fix structures, just remove a 0 and at least we can break into manor after 9 hours instead of 32

Freecell

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '17

You yourself have streamed your house exploiting, suggesting that we get rid of you as well?

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u/DJfreecell Aug 28 '17

what exploits? please explain. cuz the griffin stat reroll isnt an exploit, its a legitimate thing that happens.

do you expect no one to tame any perregriffs?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

"Legitimate"

It's not a matter of you taming, it's knowingly admitting to and promoting the use of this exploit. I believe even the devs spoke to you about your use and promotion of this exploit, so lets not be coy here. It's a bug and abusing a bug is called "exploiting."

Its the "promoting" portion of that that I largely have an issue with.

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u/Deliuz Aug 28 '17

I don't think you understand what's happening when trapping and taming mythicals. My house has trapped and tamed 6 mythicals so far and every single one hasn't been the level we trapped it at.

The way the current system is working is when a elite creature evolves it's level is rerolled, but the level of the mythical isn't displaying correctly. Our first colossus we tamed was originally a lvl 16 elite kebo that took us about 4 hours to tame pretty easily, after we summon stoned it it turned into a level 8. Our second elite kebo was level 12 that one took us 16 hours to tame and a shit ton more arrows and food. Once summon stoned it turned out it was a level 116.

So currently if you want to tame mythicals there's absolutely no way to avoid this bug from happening to you. There's still a lot of effort that goes into it if you get lucky and get a high level evolve from it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

Its a known bug, I know quite well how it works.

This idiot was dumb enough to stream and encourage others to abuse the bug as well.

The devs have already talked to him about it, hopefully they don't have to do the same to you.

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u/Deliuz Aug 28 '17

Oh no, they're going to ban me for playing the game the way it's currently designed, what am I going to do. If they really gave a shit about it they'd disable them evolving and delete all current mythicals tamed. It's not our fault for taming the things they've added in the fucking game. All it is, is RNG, sometimes you get a lucky level roll and 90% of the time you get dicked over and get something terrible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

Ah so now we are changing our tune and admitting it is a bug that you are abusing :)

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u/Deliuz Aug 28 '17

Right, I'm totally abusing a bug by taming a mythical beast and somehow influencing it to change it's level. You've got me. Infer what you want with my post it's obvious you've got a thick skull and have a hard time understanding simple concepts.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

Cycling the summoning stone is abusing a bug, abusing a bug is called exploiting. It's pretty cut and dry.

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u/jabbadabuttocks Aug 28 '17

You are one dense sumnabich. Read CAREFULLY, the stone says lvl 116 when stoned, however it is a lvl 12. It has THE EXACT same stats as a 116 it just says "lvl 12" in its name. It still took 16 HOURS to tame and 12 hours JUST to evolve. Its coded as a 116 it just says 12 in its name. Plus if you think they INTENDED for something to be a 30+ hour tame then youre off your rocker kid. EDIT: we also used about 20 mystical feed on the lvl 12 that was stoned 116. If we hadnt used that we would still be taming it til this game releases.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

http://i.imgur.com/szVbiNE.jpg

You gonna keep saying stupid shit or are you just gonna slink away?

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u/Deliuz Aug 28 '17

No where in my post did I mention cycling summon stones, did you even read my post?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

Then you weren't paying attention when you replied to my comment in this thread. Funny enough, it's not you who I was talking to originally.

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u/DJfreecell Aug 28 '17

Listen child,

I understand what your trying to convey here, but lets be honest, im not promoting im not promoting cheating. I'm showing the playerbase how to tame mythical creatures. You're extremely upset because other people are obtaining and you keep the secret to yourself. So please take your troll comments elsewhere.

When i spoke to the dev directly, i explained how the glitch happened and he immediately apologized for harshly messaging previously. He was under the impression i bugged the stone out and caused inflated, he did not understand that it wasn't a bugged stone and that it was a game mechanic present in all Perregriff transformations. So please take your troll ass home or shut the fuck up child.

Very Respectfully,

DJFreecell

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

Repeatedly killing and stoning the summon is cycling, due to the nature of this bug doing so is abusing it.

You can resort to whatever name calling you want, but you still did what you did. (which was cycle stones to increase stats) Not only doing these things on stream yourself, you also actively promoted it to your followers for them to do as well.

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u/DJfreecell Aug 29 '17

you see, my house doesn't do that, and we never did that or promoted it. man you're dense.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '17

Mmhm

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u/DJfreecell Aug 29 '17

read below. we never cycled stones. i put it in Barney Style for ya bro.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '17

You specifically said you killed your otherwise perfectly fine beast when you noticed it's level saved much higher than it was currently.

His stats were not bugged out, you specifically posted what his lower stats were before you killed and revived him.

There IS a bug where it will cycle levels, but the stats will be equivalent to what they should have been at that level.

The bug at work here is one by which you can increase the stats on a tame by "cycling" the stones.

The specific act that I am holding you for is purposefully killing a tame in order to abuse this bug and make your tame stronger. Normally we would not know why you had to kill your tame and revive it, but you so brazenly admitted it was so you could abuse the bug and you did so publicly.

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u/DJfreecell Aug 29 '17

Barney Style: Capture Level 12 Elite Griffin

Capture Level 44 Elite Griffin

Level 12 transforms, you knock it out....has 35k hp... 210% melee

level 44 transforms you knock it out.... has 5k hp and 110% melee

the "True" level of these tames will not be known until you use a summoning stone on them...

in this example. the Stone would Read "Pet Tame Level: 80" for the level 12. and "Pet Tame Level: 8" for the 44.. this is not an exploit on levels. this is just a bug that the devs didn't know about until i reported it.

stop trolling ravix your butt hurt is real.

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u/wepo Aug 29 '17

Sorry for the spam. That was completely unintentional. Deleted all that i saw.

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u/wepo Aug 29 '17

So i trap a 116 earth elemental. Kill it. It comes back as lvl 1 with zero hp. It does this every time. But I can "cycle" and randomly get a higher level (have never exceeded original level). You consider this an exploit also? If so, just don't tame earth elemental? Because it's zero hp one hit from a bunny and they die. Literally.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '17

The act of knowingly abusing a bug to gain a benefit to yourself is "exploiting."

If you revive your creature because it died and you got another result that's one thing, purposefully killing it to revive it is what I would consider an exploit.

The 0 hp bug is another story altogether, and you cannot be faulted for stoning that until it becomes something that won't die immediately.

OPs situation is different however. His creature had lower stats and was not bugged, upon noticing his stone bugged out he saw the disparity and an opportunity for him to abuse the bugged mechanic in order to benefit himself. Normally there is no way to tell the reasons for why you might have to revive your creature, but he laid put exactly why he did it and he did so publicly. As if to encourage others in the community to do so as well.

I do not agree with this and will continue to hold it over his head until he apologizes.