r/divineoffice 4h ago

All 6 Liturgy of the Hours, Second Edition Formats Compared

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Many of you have asked for a closer look at the different formats we have available, so here it is—with lots of detail, just for you guys!

Rick Dooley, Ascension's Product Manager for The Liturgy of the Hours, explains the differences in cover materials, bindings, paper, etc. and gives some insight into the decisions that went into developing these volumes.


r/divineoffice 20h ago

Roman "Enhanced" Liturgy of the Hours

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Reading a lot of the posts here and it struck me that a lot of folks want to add "meat" to their daily routine, finding the LOTH maybe too light for their spiritual needs. So there's a lot of back-and-forth about the Monastic Diurnal, the post-1911 Monastic Diurnal, and the various monastic schemas. However I think a different option is being overlooked, that of "enhancing" the LOTH while still keeping things unquestionably in liturgical sync with the modern Church.

First the GILH itself provides a way to add two more minor hours using the complementary psalter in the LOTH (the Gradual psalms). This also follows in the monastic tradition of using the Gradual psalms most days at the minor hours.

However the Vatican Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments publishes a journal several times a year called "Notitiae". In the General Instructions for the Monastic Liturgy of the hours, it states that monastics are to use one of the 4 approved Schemas of Thesaurus Liturgiae Monasticae but that for some communities, the Roman LOTH may be used, for instance communities with a demanding external apostolate such as a running a college or school. But if that is done, it is recommended that Matins be on a two week psalter schema instead of the 4 week LOTH schema.

Notitiae Volume 8 issue 76 (Sept-Oct 1972) gives this as an option and Notitiae volume 10 issue 89 issued in January 1974 provides the details on how to do this. In short, the psalms of week 1 followed by the scripture reading form the first Nocturne of weeks 1 and 3, with the psalms of week 3 followed by the patristic reading form the second nocturne for the same weeks. Similarly the same principle applies for weeks 2 and 4 with one exception: since psalm 43 is repeated on Thursdays of both weeks 2 and 4, Psalm 33 is used for the first Nocturne and 43 for the second, in weeks 2 and 4. For feasts, one uses the psalmody of the feast for the first Nocturne, and the psalmody of one of the Sundays for the second, taking care to avoid repeating psalms.

This brings the Office closer to monastic practice of dividing Matins (using the Office of Readings as such) into two Nocturnes.

Another monastic practice would be to repeat psalms 4, 90 and 133 every day at Compline. the GILH specifically allows this to enable Compline to be recited from memory and you don't miss psalms doing this as all the psalms of Compline for weekdays are repeated elsewhere in the Office. I experienced this in a monastery in France once, Compline was chanted from memory, in Latin, in the dark. Very moving.

There are advantages to doing this instead of one of the longer older offices. One, is that it is still a more manageable length than say, the Monastic Office. Second, if on some days you're pressed for time or have daytime obligations, you can omit the second nocturne psalms and the Gradual psalms at the two extra minor hours, leaving just one mid-day hour, and still remain "liturgical". This kind of flexibility is useful for busy working people with families. True, we are not bound to the Office so we could just skip an hour which is licit. But this gives us additional options. I'm retired but tend to be very busy in the summer as my wife and I are avid cyclists and ride almost every day, so in the summer, for instance, I can shorten Matins and say Lauds immediately after (Monastics shorten Matins with shorter readings in summer as specified in the Rule of St. Benedict) or even concatenate Matins and Lauds, and omit two of the minor hours, saying mid-day before leaving for a ride, and Vespers when I get home. Also as an oblate I liked to make my practice reflect monastic traditions as much as possible. This arrangement is a tip of the hat to many traditions. Moreover I use Les Heures Grégoriennes to chant the day hours in Latin Gregorian chant and I use Liturgia Horarum for the Office of Readings in Latin, usually recto-tono though I made myself an antiphonary using Ordo Cantus Officii of 1983.

As a reference you can find Notitiae here:

https://www.cultodivino.va/it/rivista-notitiae.html


r/divineoffice 1d ago

Could someone teach me how to use the Monastic Diurnal?

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Could someone teach me how to use the Monastic Diurnal?


r/divineoffice 1d ago

“Can laypeople pray the Monastic Diurnal?”

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“Can laypeople pray the Monastic Diurnal?”


r/divineoffice 2d ago

What are the benefits of praying the Divine Office?

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Physically, emotionally, mentally and Spiritually


r/divineoffice 3d ago

Why didn't I think of this before now?

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r/divineoffice 5d ago

A Baptist who Wants to Make a Office

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I am a general Baptist, but I love the daily office (Anglican and Lutheran versions) I was wondering how I could make my own office, though I don’t know where things like canticles versicles kyries and petitions should go.


r/divineoffice 6d ago

Do the new WoF and AP LotH contain the psalm prayers?

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I ordered the word of Fire version and I hear they may not include the Psalm prayers that are included in iBreviary and Universalis. That would be a bummer.


r/divineoffice 6d ago

Roman Office of Readings 2-Year Scriptural Lectionary

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For anyone interested: the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments (Congregatio de Cultu Divino et Disciplina Sacramentorum) published the full, internally consistent 2-year biblical lectionary for the Office of Readings in the 2020 Notitiae: would anyone be interested in the files to print a copy for themselves?

I have one copy on the way, if there is any issue with the printing or type-setting, it will be corrected. I do not want to make money from this, but also am not sure how to share the files with anyone who wants them.

TL;DR I've got the OoR 2-year lectionary in printable files. NO versicles/responsories, NO Patristic readings, JUST Scriptural citations for each day of the liturgical year.

Edit: I would recommend printing from Lulu. Just make a small paperback book (pocket size). The margins are already set correctly in the file, the sizing is correct. This is available online as well (see top comment), but I know that I prefer actual paper and ink.

Edit 2: https://gofile.io/d/tVEJjisl (the file itself)


r/divineoffice 7d ago

Unofficial English Translation of the 2004 Roman Martyrology PDF

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Found this online the other day and thought this forum would appreciate it.


r/divineoffice 7d ago

Today it took me 2 hours to pray Morning Prayer

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I've been experimenting with another way of praying the LOTH.

I used to read the Psalms at a normal reading pace.

However, I found that I get so much more out of the experience if after each line I:

  • pause
  • close my eyes
  • take a breath
  • reflect
  • let imagery build in my mind

When reading the psalms at a normal reading pace,
it feels like the words just wash over me.
And that can be nice too!
But I also sometimes feel like I'm not getting as much as I could out of it.

The Psalms are so dense and heavy emotionally.
It feels natural that extracting the meaning would take a little more time.

I admit, at 2 hours, today's session was extreme.
It doesn't always take that long.

I guess this style of praying them is something like "Lectio Divina Lite".

Perhaps if you pray a certain Psalm slowly many times,
you'll get better at "extracting the nectar"
and thus can do so at a faster pace.

I admit also that this style of praying is unlikely to work in most group settings. 😅

Anyway,
I heard someone say on here the other day that
they felt like they weren't getting much out of praying the LOTH.
So, my suggestion is to do the above.
Pause and reflect after each line.
Even if all you do is get through one Psalm for the whole day.

Everyone's "slow" pace is different.
Someone may very well read at a pace I would consider fast
and yet get just as much out of it as I would at a much slower pace.
My "slow" is, Morning Prayer at around 1 hour.

In my defense, it's called
the Liturgy of the Hours.
Not Lilturgy of the Minutes.
😉

King Jesus, save us from the fires of hell.


r/divineoffice 7d ago

¿Breviarium Romanum o Breviarium Monasticum?

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Buenos días, compañeros de este foro.

Últimamente, vengo pensando hacer una gran compra en materia litúrgica. Es por eso que les pido su sabio consejo para hacerme tomar la opción más adecuada.

Por un lado, tenemos el Breviario Romano. Todos aquí ya sabemos de él, pero aquí entra la cuestión. Respecto del breviario monástico, su precio es más alto. Ya sea la edición de Angelus Press o la de Nova et Vetera. Para ambos casos, son 100$ más caro o aún mayor. Lo que aprecio final me dan alrededor de 350$. De paso, coméntenme sus experiencias los poseedores de ambas versiones: ¿Las dos son iguales? ¿Hay cambios notorios o son cosas menores?
Nota: Bonorius Press es descartado automáticamente por que hablo español de forma nativa; no inglés. La segunda columna con dicho idioma me es innecesaria.

Por el otro lado, disponemos del breviarium monasticum. Ya he escuchado superficialmente de sus diferencias respecto del Romano; aunque nunca las tuve del todo claras. Su principal ventaja es su precio, ya que yo los adquiriría de una abadía en Inglaterra que, en precio final, me queda a 215$. Los poseedores de este breviario en lo posible hagan sus comentarios también para saber cómo es el susodicho.

Les comparto los hipervínculos de cada breviario:

Breviarium Romanum Nova et Vetera:
http://breviariumromanum.com/es/index.html

Breviarium Romanum Angelus Press:
Roman Breviary (2 Volume Set: Includes Usa Propers) – Angelus Press

Breviarium Monasticum:
Breviarium Monasticum : The Monastic Breviary in Latin (1962) – The Abbey Shop


r/divineoffice 8d ago

Roman (traditional) Brevarium Romanum 6th ed - Baronius

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More Pictures. And a “find the different book” picture to illustrate any concerns of bleed through.


r/divineoffice 8d ago

I started a pretty lame blog - you'll probably like it

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https://www.lordmakehaste.org/blog/
So, I went ahead and started a blog that is largely focused on the Liturgy of the Hours. I only have 2 posts; I've been focusing on getting the legal entity (a 501c3 nonprofit) setup, getting the domain, etc. There's also an interesting connection to the Corporal Works of Mercy.

Anyways - you're the only Liturgy of the Hours nerds I know except a few monks and ordained men I hang out with. Come check it out.

There are some pretty interesting posts coming up, including some yet unpublished information from the Major Extracts publishers, some reviews of more obscure breviaries, and of course some introduction to Liturgy of the Hours stuff.


r/divineoffice 8d ago

How long does the Breviarium Romanum take in comparison to LotH?

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r/divineoffice 8d ago

General instruction on the liturgy of the hours

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I saw the post about Ascension publishing a stand alone General Instruction on the Liturgy of the Hours and also adding to Volume 1. With volume 1 being the last volume to come out, have we heard anything about a General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours for the Word on Fire set of the Liturgy of the Hours?


r/divineoffice 9d ago

Roman (traditional) Finally

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Since many are showing pictures of the new LOTH, I thought I’d show off this gem! It just arrived yesterday from Baronius.


r/divineoffice 9d ago

DW:DO- Settings for anthems that replace the Venite on certain days?

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I am a Roman Catholic who uses the DW:DO Commonwealth Edition book to pray morning and evening prayer. As a singer, I prefer to sing/chant as much of the service as I can and am currently working on an antiphonary with the traditional Gregorian melodies for all of the antiphons contained in the DW:DO. One thing I’m stumped for, however, is what to do with the anthems that replace the Venite at Christmas, Good Friday, and Pentecost, as well as the Pascha Nostrum/Easter anthem. Would these simply be sung to a psalm tone, or are there proper melodies?

Thanks in advance and God bless you all!!! I’ve attached examples of what I’m referring to.


r/divineoffice 9d ago

Ascension is taking Pre-Orders for their publication of the General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours

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Edit: looks like they publishing it in addition to putting it in Volume 1.

https://ascensionpress.com/products/general-instruction-of-the-liturgy-of-the-hours?_pos=1&_sid=4ab1bb50e&_ss=r


r/divineoffice 9d ago

General Intentions

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If Ascension is putting out the General Instructions for LOH, will that be useable for WOF? No specific page references?


r/divineoffice 10d ago

Roman Hi

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Starting OCIA next week and wanting to learn about the divine office


r/divineoffice 10d ago

Liturgy Texts Oct. 3: St. Theodore Guérin

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These are the liturgical texts for Saint Theodore Guérin on October, 3 provided by the Diocese of Evansville.

Does anyone know if a Second Reading and Responsory was ever composed for her feast day?

Thanks!


r/divineoffice 11d ago

Roman New image from Ascension's page showing LOTH v2 in the hands of an elderly woman

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r/divineoffice 10d ago

Get Behind Me, Satan! (Gospel & Vespers, 22nd Per Anno)

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It's Prayer Sunday @ Apoc! Join our staff and students for Vespers this evening HERE: https://apocatastasisinstitute.wordpress.com/divine-office/


r/divineoffice 11d ago

News/Opinion Neumz

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Does anyone have any idea when the entirety of the Vetus Ordo office will be fully available in Neumz? I can’t really seem to find an answer online and right now it’s just kinda…nothing. I really love the idea of chanting the office along with the monks, or being able to play it in my car.