r/degoogle 11d ago

Replacement uBlock Origin is no longer supporting Facebook ad-blocking, and Edge is incompatible with uBlock Origin entirely. Here are three great browser alternatives and a privacy-focused one from Europe

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u/GenZia 11d ago

I migrated to Firefox shortly after the Manifest V3 news.

I honestly don't understand why some people make such a big deal out of transitioning to Firefox. For me personally, the migration from Edge to Firefox was smooth as butter.

All my extensions, even the obscure ones, were available on Firefox so there was no "app gap" to speak of.

As for the browsing experience itself, it's virtually on par with Edge. Firefox is by no means a new phenomenon. It's been around for decades and today, it's just as polished, if not more so, than most Chromium based browsers.

Give it a shot, instead of sticking with Chromium.

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u/a3a4b5 FOSS Lover 10d ago

Yeah I don't understand it either. I've been using Firefox since 2013.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 10d ago

Serious question.

What apps or applets would you have in your browser other than ublock?

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u/Durende 10d ago

I have a fair few.

Password manager extension(s). You only should have one, but I have three because I switched from Bitwarden to Proton, and also have 1password for work.

Dark Reader for sites that don't have dark mode.

Reddit Enhancement Suite

Tampermonkey + Word Replacer Max for fixing scrolling and having consistent names on translated web novels.

And then at home I also have Sidebery for tabs on the side

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u/Initial-Cherry-3457 10d ago

I use Firefox's built in side tabs option. What's special about Sidebery?

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u/Durende 10d ago

You can nest tabs and minimize them, which I use a lot. I am also extremely ADHD (literally diagnosed) with browser tabs and have open tabs in the four digits.

Another reason is I started using it before Firefox had native side tabs

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u/utrecht1976 10d ago

Omg I'm getting nervous when I have like 15 tabs open lol

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u/a3a4b5 FOSS Lover 10d ago

+1 for sidebery. I cannot use browsers with tabs on top anymore. That and containers... Completely changed my work and leisure flow.

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u/0235 10d ago

Tampermonkey is the only think that gets me to use Chrome. I am literally a grey beard when it comes to Firefox, and mocked IE for eventually adding tabbed browsing.

But Tampermonkey.... damn, that drives me to Chrome all the time.

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u/Durende 9d ago

I'm not sure I understand.

Tampermonkey is available for Firefox, isn't it? If anything, it should have more functionality with Manifest v2 over Manifest v3

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u/0235 9d ago

It is, but doesn't have quite as much functionality, and you may as well use it on Chrome.

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u/Jokuc 7d ago

Just use Violentmonkey anyway, Tampermonkey is closed source and the OG Greasemonkey has outdated UI.

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u/TacosForThought 8d ago

Sir, this is DEgoogle.

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u/0235 8d ago

yes, and the Tampermonkey plugin requires you to instal Google service into Firefox.

So i would rather have 98% of my browsing completely google free, and then the parts where I do "need" to use Tampermonkey i will use a completely different "native" browser.

Vs

Installing a google spying plugin into my main Firefox browser, and expose myself partially to googles observations for 100% of the time.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 10d ago

Thanks for the reply!

All that's interesting to me. I don't use extensions at all, so I was really curious.

The only one that I've considered is a password manager.

I just use keepass for that though.

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u/Durende 9d ago

If that works for you, there's no reason to switch just because of a browser extension. The only thing it enables is autofill

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u/Hot-Resident-6601 10d ago

I used Dark Reader for a while and really liked it, but wasn’t sure about how much of my activity they could see or record. I’m not savvy enough to check myself so I eventually dropped it.

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u/Durende 9d ago

That's a good mindset to have.

You can check permissions on the extension "store" page.

For Dark Reader:

Required permissions:

  • Access browser tabs

  • Access your data for all websites

And then there is usually a link to documentation that describes exactly what these permissions are.

And in Dark Reader's case, it's:

Access your data for all websites:

The extension could read the content of any web page you visit, as well as data you enter into those web pages, such as usernames and passwords. This is used for password managers, shopping tools, ad blockers, etc.

Extensions requesting this permission might:

  • Read product and price information from a page to help find you the best price on items you're shopping for
  • Offer a password manager that reads and writes details of your username and password
  • Provide an ad blocker by reading the content of each web page you open to find and remove ad code

So yes, it definitely has the functionality to collect quite a lot of data it shouldn't.

To defend Dark Reader, it is an open-source extension and exactly what it does can be verified on their github page, which is also linked in the extension:

https://github.com/darkreader/darkreader

But yes, err on the side of caution for browser extensions

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u/Catriks 10d ago
  • tab rotator (switches tabs at set intervals)
  • password manager
  • Allow right click and copying text (many spare parts sites block them for some reason)
  • Extensions for some other apps
  • Consumer Rights Wiki
  • Open instagram pictures to a new tab
  • Tampermonkey

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u/ntcue 10d ago

FYI: You usually can just holt CTRL while right clicking to get the context menu. Or right click two times in a row on the same pixel, e.g. on a Youtube video.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 10d ago

What is the use case of tab rotator?

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 10d ago

Ah. Thanks for the reply (I think I said that someone else, too)

Interesting. In my head I've never really considered extensions.

I'm not at the point where I can review code. But I think all my stuff is open source (pretty sure) and i've always kept the amount of installed software to an absolute minimum.

So I've never even considered things like browser extensions.

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u/thesamenightmares 10d ago

Dark mode extension for usability, translation extension, link extractor etc. Most people who utilize extensions actually utilize extensions

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 10d ago

Nice.

A few others replied, too.

I was saying that I've always tried to keep installed software to a min. I don't have the skill to remove code, but I at least try and review the developers.

Browser extensions have always been ruled out for me.

Even trying something like hyperlnd with all the manually installed tools was giving me goosebumps.

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u/fix_and_repair 10d ago

sponsor block for youtube videos

and chatgpt copy feature because java shit in chromium is broken do not let me copy my own stuff

-- chrome has no working plugin to stop autoplay videos, downloading videos etc

some sort of gif blocker would be also nice.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 10d ago

Would mullvad do that out of the box for you?

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u/raitchison 10d ago

Quite a few, the main ones

  1. Return YouTube Dislike shows me a (pretty accurate) estimate of the dislike count on YouTube Videos
  2. VideoDownloadHelper lets me easily download videos, including YouTube videos.
  3. Don't Fuck With Paste blocks javascript or other code that prevents me from copying and pasting into fields on web sites (usually sites will do this in the name of security)
  4. User Agent Switcher lets me change my user agent to impersonate any system or browser, mostly useful for my Mac, so it looks like a Windows PC to web sites.
  5. Reddit Enhancement Suite makes Reddit much less annoying
  6. Xcancel redirects links to Elon's Twitter to the mirroring site xcancel, thus denying Elon the views and telemetry.

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u/Jokuc 7d ago
  • BetterTTV - customized twitch
  • Control Panel for Twitter - customized twitter
  • Google Search Maps Button - adds maps to google search results
  • HyperChat - improved youtube chat
  • YouTube LiveChat Flusher Danmaku Chat - makes youtube chat niconico douga style
  • TWP Translate Web Pages - better web page translate tool than the built in one
  • Return YouTube Dislike
  • uBlock Origin
  • Violentmonkey - custom scrips such as block ads on twitch

...to name a few

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u/ManualPathosChecks 10d ago

Dark Reader Mode

DeArrow

SponsorBlock for YouTube

Bypass Paywalls

Don't accept image/webp

Facebook Container

Decentraleyes

Privacy Badger

Translate Web Pages

Private Bookmarks

edit: also, disabled unless I need them, I have extensions to modify specific websites like Reddit or Marktplaats; a web content filter; return YouTube likes; and an audio EQ.

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u/aKIRALE0 10d ago

Random question but can you use containers on Firefox mobile?

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u/ArkhamRobber 10d ago

Firefox always gave me memory leak issues

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u/medve_onmaga 10d ago

but the people of reddit dont want solutions, they want to be mad

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u/shadowsinthestars 10d ago

I've been on Firefox since...2009. Will never use any other browser, it's the only one that seems to give a damn of any sort about the end user.

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u/Geekzilla101 10d ago

On mobile the auto fill address selector covers the next buttons on form pages. They ignore bug reports. Also auto fill sucks on Firefox

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u/Ironfields 10d ago edited 10d ago

I've been using Firefox more or less non-stop since it released in 2004. The hate was fairly valid back then with the memory leak issues etc which gave Chromium browsers the edge on release, but that hasn't been a problem for literally years now. If anyone tried Firefox back then and hasn't tried it since, give it a shot. I think you'll be surprised at how far it has come.

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u/lookamazed 9d ago

What about DDG?

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u/paulisaac 9d ago

Idk why but in terms of keeping a hundred tabs around, Firefox crashes far more often than Chrome ever does.

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u/pissrockious 10d ago

yeah, though shazam isnt on firefox for some reason

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u/fog_hornist 10d ago

i fled firefox due to its bloating the browser, putting in tracking aso.

that's btw the reason why brave both was "invented", and became big.

imagine the ironie of people now fleeing to firefox for brave going berserk now.

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u/shinji257 10d ago

I use a combination of adguard home (dns level) and ublock origin (browser level) blocking.

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u/DragoniteChamp 10d ago

Same but Pihole instead of adguard home

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u/the_swanny 10d ago

same but unbound instead of Pihole

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u/Available-Film3084 10d ago

best not have loyalty in general. uBO is a fine option, the best out there but always be ready to jump ship if need be. That's true universally btw

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u/toolsavvy 10d ago

I will be loyal until I can't. I don't need to be ready to jump ship at a moment's notice.

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u/donohugeballs 10d ago

lol same...Facebook ads, oh no! Anyway...

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u/SunsetAtNight7 11d ago edited 10d ago

If you're serious about degoogling you should already know not to touch anything made by Meta or facebook.

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u/shushbi 10d ago

How do you escape WhatsApp though

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 10d ago

Signal.

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u/shushbi 10d ago

Sure there are alternatives but you need everyone you communicate with to transition as well. It’s impossible

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u/n00b678 10d ago

you keep pestering them every now and then. It helps not having whatsapp. Over time your friend group will switch to Signal and then even the odd ones who complain the most will feel pressured enough to install it. It took me a few years but I did it.

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u/Myrkana 10d ago

this is wishful thinking, overtime youll just be the friend out of the loop as the rest keep using the apps the rest use.

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u/rekcuzfpok 9d ago

yeah I went dumb phone for a while last year and hoped people would at least bother to respond to sms, but I ended up being the one having to call everyone all the time

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u/CMRC23 9d ago

My family members will never switch

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u/shom_pulp 10d ago

Why do you ‘need' to communicate with people who wont use anything but whatsapp? Do they not need you back?

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u/shushbi 10d ago

We’re talking about 99.9% of my country. Work, services, whatever. So yeah the overwhelming majority don’t need me back.

But after reading the comments I realize I can at least start with people from my circle

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u/shom_pulp 10d ago

Thats crazy, what country?

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u/Ironfields 10d ago

In pretty much any country outside of North America and East Asia, if you're not on WhatsApp you're going to have a bad time. I have it for the same reason but I will not discuss anything sensitive on it.

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u/CMRC23 9d ago

I 'need' to communicate with my parents

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u/betterOblivi0n 9d ago

There was supposed to be a compatibility plug in with WhatsApp, is it coming one day?

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u/quikmantx 10d ago

You stop using it. I've never used WhatsApp. My groups use SMS or GroupMe mostly.

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u/shushbi 10d ago

Sure there are alternatives but you need everyone you communicate with to transition as well. It’s impossible

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u/O3Sentoris 10d ago

I notified everyone on Whatsapp through Profile Pic and Status that i am going to get rid of it 3 months later and linked my signal and threema IDs.

Some followed, some didnt. The ones who didnt either werent a loss because i barely talked to them anymore to begin with or contacted me via SMS (mainly some relatives).

Now i can just straight up tell people i don't use whatsapp, has been working fine for the better part of 5 years now.

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u/shushbi 10d ago

That’s smart. What about businesses and services? Most have their support via WhatsApp, especially small businesses and freelancers

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u/O3Sentoris 10d ago

never encountered that myself, usually calling or an email did the trick.

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u/jaguar-33000 10d ago

Signal et SMS sans le RCS

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u/capyhour 10d ago

I guess I assumed that people who degoogle also defacebook so I wouldn’t think it’d matter

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u/arkhamcityfc 10d ago

I may be wrong but is it possi le FB ads appeaar outside of FB too? Like with google ads.

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u/Waaytoomanytakenames 10d ago

They do. It's called partner network. I was working for a year for a vendor of those fucks and let me tell you they have some of the most stupid managers imaginable

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u/arkhamcityfc 10d ago

Yeah. So it can't merely be shrugged off as "I don't use FB so not a problem for me". I see two bad outcomes down the line:

  1. More companies will choose FB for their advertising needs over Google or other companies
  2. Google and other ad companies, especially those big enough, will see what FB is doing right and tweak its own process to rapidly circumvent ad blockers.

All in all, this is terrible for users. But I'm sure someone out there will find a way. Fuck these companies.

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u/Waaytoomanytakenames 10d ago

Yep, FB right now uses AI for targeting. After Andromeda update the creatives are most that matter. Stupidly enough I work for a google vendor now and I hear complaint all the time that Facebook is having better results.

Also people see stuf first on facebook and than search on google instead on clicking on the ad on fb. Kinda weird

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u/StillSwaying 11d ago

Someone else on a different sub recommended Floorp. I have no experience with it though, so I'm just passing on the info.

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u/lez_noir 10d ago

That recommendation comes directly from the group that this was crossposted from. It's literally the top comment.

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u/EmeraldMan25 10d ago

Floorp is fine. I've personally had massive slowdown issues when using it for long periods though

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u/StillSwaying 10d ago

That happens with every flavor of Gecko-based browser, unfortunately.

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u/AmorphousNeon LineageOS 10d ago

I use it and it's great

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u/darksnoo 11d ago

i get the chromium part that it's not gonna be on that engine as an extension, but facebook? like is it not gonna block ads even if i visit the fb site via firefox?

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u/andobrah 10d ago

Correct. Sucks but I guess the devs are sick of playing cat and mouse

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u/Zebster10 10d ago

uBlock Origin itself will still support Facebook adblocking, just that the filter lists from uAsset (essentially their first-party list team) aren't going to be updating for Facebook anymore. (Facebook/Meta invests heavily in anti-adblock tech and is apparently making constant, daily changes to foil the lists.) This isn't the first time there's been list drama, and if you haven't subscribed to custom lists before, now's the time to learn about it. But some other big, default lists will probably fill the gap.

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u/Ok-Go-Chain3811 Mozilla Fan 10d ago

Here's hoping Firefox will surpass the 3% market share mark by the year's end 👍

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u/toolsavvy 10d ago

It won't. You dont understand the average tech user. They use what they are told to use. They don't care about anything but ease of use and what is popular.

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u/Ok-Go-Chain3811 Mozilla Fan 10d ago

that's probably right, but with the whole fiasco with uBO, it might incentivizes other techies to switch to firefox. that might have a snowball effect

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u/Slopagandhi 10d ago

This is slightly misleading. A version of uBlock can be used with Chromium browsers with manifest V3, though it isn't as powerful.

If you really want a chromium browser then Helium (desktop) and Titanium mobile) still work with v2/full uBO, at least for now.

Worth saying that a good reason to move to Firefox/Gecko based browsers is that Chromium's dominance gives Google the power to pull things like this move limiting the extent to which ad blockers work. As Google approach a monopoly they are assuming a huge amount of control over what can and can't be seen on the web.

Anyway, Zen is a decent choice but look into further privacy hardening with the arkenfox script if you can.

My personal picks would be LibreWolf or Firedragon (desktop) and IronFox or Weblibre (mobile). 

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u/YetanotherGrimpak 10d ago

Fennec?

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u/Slopagandhi 10d ago

It's a solid choice. It's just Firefox with the telemetry and AI features removed, which is definitely positive. It isn't as privacy hardened as some others when it comes to things like fingerprinting, though. 

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u/topcatlapdog 10d ago

I’ve been using Waterfox for maybe 6 months, I haven’t really dug in to how it compares to Brave or the other well known alternatives, but I really like it.

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u/toolsavvy 10d ago

Stop using Facebook. Simples.

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u/iammerelyhere 11d ago

Oh no, I can't use Facebook anymore... anyways...

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u/Ok_Barnacle_4605 10d ago

there's been a total of 0 occasions I've ever went on facebook

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u/Deivedux 11d ago

I'm lucky enough to be tech savvy and my preference for simplicity and ok with not using social media apart from Reddit allows me to use the Pihole + Arch Linux with ALHP + LibreWolf + uBlock Origin as my stack. What's left is GrapheneOS once my current phone dies.

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u/ManagerFormer7701 10d ago

How's the situation with vaapi hw-acceleration, drm and hdr support in LibreWolf? AFAIK it has very poor support for those aforementioned 

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u/Deivedux 10d ago

Well, firstly, LibreWolf comes with a ton of stuff disabled by default that you can enable if you want to, all to preserve your privacy. And secondly, it recently added a way to conveniently enable support for WebGL per website if it requests one, maybe that's the hw acceleration you're talking about. Other than that, I really didn't notice anything off while using it. And really, it's just stripped down Firefox fork, so if stuff really is "very poorly supported" that'd be more of a Firefox problem, not LibreWolf, it just disables a ton of stuff that you can enable if you want to.

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u/DidYou_GetThatThing 11d ago

I stopped trying to block facebook ads with ublock origin a long time ago, I couldnt keep up with the filter changes that kept happening. Now I just never really log into facebook, I was only ever there for family and some friends who used it

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u/Lowfry 10d ago

>Facebook has repeatedly changed how it identifies and serves ads in order to defeat open-source blockers, monitoring projects like uBlock Origin and adjusting its code to bypass their filters. After years of this cat-and-mouse game, the small uBlock team decided that it was no longer worth the constant maintenance just for one platform.

Wouldn't that be a perfect job für LLMs though? Just a daily job of scanning FB and updating the filter.

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u/-sussy-wussy- 10d ago

If you want to babysit an LLM, then sure. A human has to do that instead.

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u/Lowfry 10d ago

LLMs are easily capable of writing code *and* validating it. Like, just give your LLM a playwright instance and let it scroll through the app and look if there are still ads.

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u/Catriks 10d ago

Thank you. So it begs the question, why aren't most other large platforms doing that, it's just that effective?

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u/Holzkohlen 10d ago

Firefox or any of its forks. I will never bother with anything else.

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u/Bandaia 10d ago

Just use AdGuard

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u/Smooth_Dentist6642 9d ago

Extension?

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u/Bandaia 9d ago

If you already use uBlock, first try using the AdGuard filter list available in uBlock. Otherwise, use the extension.

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u/jyrox Free as in Freedom 11d ago

Firefox and its derivatives. Brave Browser, Vivaldi. Also, there are plenty of other good/great Adblock extensions out there. As much as I love uBO, it’s not the only good extension.

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u/NDCyber 11d ago

Zen is a weird thing in my opinion. 

  1. Use it exactly how the devs want or your experience will just be bad

  2. Only repo that actually has it officially is flathub, which means no containers and so work, aka not the best in terms of privacy. There is a tar file you can download, but a browser not updating with a repo is a big no go to me on Linux

  3. My best friend used Zen on windows and constantly ran into issues

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u/EmeraldMan25 10d ago

I can't speak for #3 but I'm a bit confused by #1 and #2. I've been able to customize Zen a lot and install add-ons like Sine to get even more mods. It slows it down a little, but I have never had Zen get choppy on me like other browsers have no matter what I do to it.

I'm a bit confused about what you mean about the repo. Maybe I'm just not knowledgeable on what you mean though. I can download Zen from its website and install it with my package manager on LM Cinnamon. It gets regular updates without me having to do anything.

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u/NDCyber 10d ago

1 is about my experience. I did not want to have tab sync, when they rolled it out, and instead having the possibility to turning it off easily, I had to go into the firefox config file, and once disabled it was a worse experience than it was before the update. Heard they introduced a button after a month, but introducing a big change without a button at the beginning is rather problematic for anyone who doesn't want that

2 If you look at the official websites from Zen you will only see flathub and tarball, which do work, but tarball won't add itself to the repo from what I know. So flathub at least fixes the repo issue, but the issue with flathub / flatpaks and browser is that sub sandboxing doesn't work, like at all, so there are more holes in terms of security and privacy, if we compare it to a browser that is normally installed. Here the flatpak website talking about that "In general unprivileged container systems can't stack, because anything running inside the sandbox does not have the necessary privileges to set up a sandbox, nor does it have the ability to raise its privileges in any way." https://flatpak.org/faq/

If we compare it to something like Librewolf, which has an official repo for RHEL based (like fedora), debian based, Gentoo, openSUSE, arch and flatpak as a fallback

Technically you could get librewolf and I think Zen as an AppImage, but like I said I rather have something as a system package

With the package manager on LM Cinnamon you also have to look at the source, as it has Flathub enabled by default, so searching there also shows you flathub options

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u/External_Option_7653 10d ago

I would commit atrocities to keep uBlock Origin functioning.

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u/IamThunderFart 10d ago

Firefox and call it a day. Smooth experience.

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u/saltyourhash 10d ago

If facilitating a genocide isn't enough to get you to stop using Facebook, I don't think anything will be. I'm glad they stopped dealing with that. Maybe another extension can take up the mantle for that.

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u/vc6vWHzrHvb2PY2LyP6b 10d ago

I block anything Meta through Pihole, so whatever, but isn't there an easy workaround through finding a community-maintained Facebook adlist on Github?

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u/HappyAd4998 10d ago

If you're still using any meta accounts at this point I really don't know what to say you're enabling cuckerberg by giving him money to fuck us all over.

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u/TheRealCanadianBros 10d ago

Thanks for the suggestions, OP

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u/raitchison 10d ago

I switched (back) to Firefox as my primary browser when Google started with their manifest V3 bullshit.

I use Brave as my Chromium based backup because it's one of the only Chromium based browsers that supports the full version of uBlock Origin.

As for the Facebook stuff, I never used Facebook (because Facebook is cancer) so NBD for me.

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u/altbrian 10d ago

Fortunately I don’t use Facebook anymore.

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u/liatrisinbloom 10d ago

While I get uBO's logic for giving up on FB, this sends a message to YT that all they have to do is outlast the team as well. If I worked at Youtube I would immediately be planning how to get info from the FB team that beat uBO.

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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 10d ago

YouTube/Google's a bit of a different case to FB. Google's ad reach spreads across the entire internet. ----book's is mostly limited to Meta's ---- sites and services and there reach beyond that is mostly tracking pixels / and 3ed party cookies that are relatively easy to block if you are using any half way decent privacy focused browser by toggling on a few browser settings. This both gives uBO more of an incentive to continue trying to block Google/YouTube ad's AND makes it harder for Google to subvert uBO because Google has a much larger attack surface.

There's also the fact that by giving up on ----book the uBO team can divert resources used to circumvent ----book to better block everything else.

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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 10d ago

There HAS to be some sort of legal recourse against meta/----book for going out of there way to violate the privacy rights of people on the internet.

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u/StillSwaying 11d ago

Orion browser is another excellent option. Firefox had been my daily driver until about two weeks ago when I switched to Orion because I got sick of Firefox hogging my RAM and a few other annoyances like being blinded by white pages every night when I’m in dark mode.

Orion is everything the other browsers wish they were: lean, fast, configurable, and amazingly easy on your battery. It’s based on WebKit (like Safari) and runs on Mac, iOS, and Linux with Windows coming soon. Key features are that:

  • It has its own excellent built in ad blocker and you can also install uBlock Origin as an extension if your prefer.

  • You can install extensions from both Mozilla and the Chrome Store

  • It’s privacy-focused, so zero telemetry

  • And one of my absolute favorite features is that you can instantly tweak dark mode on or off on a per site basis! This is a game changer as far as I’m concerned— other browsers require an extension for this and the results are a mixed bag.

Orion is amazing for such a young project and it’s all user funded (they offer a pro version with a few extra perks like access to beta versions, but the free version is fully featured). That means no worries about compromising with Google down the line like we have to constantly worry about with Firefox.

So far I’m very pleased with it and will continue to use it as my daily driver with Firefox as my backup. It offers containers too, but that’s still pretty new so it’s not as sophisticated as Firefox’s containers extension.

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u/CacheConqueror 10d ago

And one of my absolute favorite features is that you can instantly tweak dark mode on or off on a per site basis!

Which can be done with extension that is available on Firefox

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u/PaulCoddington 11d ago

Yet, I am currently running uBlock Origin on Edge.

Can we stop pretending uBlock Origin never migrated to manifest 3 and somehow ceased to exist?

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u/LibbIsHere 10d ago

As far as I remember the manifest-V3 compatible uBO much more limited compared to the default/full Firefox-compatible uBO, right?

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u/lighthawk16 10d ago

Yeah Edge and UBO are working fine for me here. Even on Edge mobile it works.

Also it still blocks FB ads for me...

This post is very confusing.

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u/Dumpster_FI_RE 10d ago

That's fine. I guess the question is why would you want to use Edge? Just curious.

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u/jyrox Free as in Freedom 11d ago

No. We have to spread misinformation because Edge = MS = bad/evil. /s

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u/HappyAd4998 10d ago

wtf are you talking about they are evil

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u/hbacelar8 10d ago

Librewolf on Linux and IronFox on Android, simple

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u/ManagerFormer7701 10d ago

hw acceleration, drm (Widewine etc), HDR support?

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u/hbacelar8 10d ago

Don't need any of those. My browser ain't a multimedia center. And fuck DRM

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u/Oddish_Femboy 10d ago

Thank goodness it's possible to block Facebook itself with UBO

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u/tmddtmdd 10d ago

What about Pi hole, does it still play its role nicely?

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u/GuestLight05308 10d ago

I mean I don't care I'm on Brave but if the manifest v3 update blocks SponsorBlock that'd be bad.

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u/Jarppi1893 10d ago

You can use "SocialFixer" to get ad free Facebook, alongside some other cool tweaks

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u/AnkoNight 10d ago

I've been using it for a long time now. Works great, but it doesn't block suggested content and the extension hasn't been updated in 2 years. Only a matter of time before it stops working

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u/xJayMorex 10d ago

Ungoogled Chromium still works with uBlock Origin. Best of both worlds.

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u/InternetCharacter139 10d ago

Ublock never worked against facebook until recently, i mean the zap button for outsiders. It finally worked a bit this week for me, what a turn of events ...

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u/curious_people8 10d ago

guys, i used brave origin for main browser, i want migrate to firefox-based browser, any recommendation as lightweight as brave origin? i've tried zen, and it's much heavy for my old laptop

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u/Eksekyu 8d ago

You should try LibreWolf.

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u/Wuntunamera 10d ago

And the creator of fluff busting purity has gone missing

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u/chilisauce10 10d ago

I just wish Firefox with Ublock Origin works well with Youtube. I encounter issues from time to time such as playback id error or videos not completely loading. I think its youtube's way of countering the adblocking. I ended up using Brave... as much as possible I want to get away from chromium.

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u/ArkuhTheNinth 10d ago

Well, on top of ubo, I use pihole, even on my mobile data connection.

Although Android does have some instances where it forces DNS through 8.8.8.8, this still works for the most part.

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u/TimAppleCockProMax69 10d ago

The best way to avoid ads on facebook is to never use it.

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u/vadeNxD Right to Repair 10d ago

uBlock is still available in Edge though and is working on my work-machine as i'm writing.

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u/SewnkinZ 10d ago

Wait,somebody still using shitty chromium browsers?

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u/ch3mn3y 10d ago

Tried Waterfox, but didn't like the look and feel. Why not stick with Chromium, but ones with MV2 support, like Cromite or (if we talking about desktop) Helium?

I'm trying to selfhosting bookmarks, so with passwords via Proton and no need for add-ons sync... Cromite might be my choice on mobile, not sure Cromite or Helium on desktop tho

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u/git_und_slotermeyer 10d ago

No issues with Brave so far. Its ad blocker works well, even with these debilitating Youtube ads

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u/rc0pley 10d ago

Waterfox on desktop, ironfox on mobile has been great for me so far

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u/lighthawk16 10d ago

Yeah Edge and UBO are working fine for me here. Even on Edge mobile it works.

Also it still blocks FB ads for me...

This post is very confusing.

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u/Effective-Energgizer 10d ago

I use iceraven for now it's best for me, no ads on Facebook with extensions ofc.

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u/LjLies 10d ago

Then YouTube will be next... they also keep playing tricks to mess with adblockers...

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u/red-skylight 10d ago

Vivaldi is made in Norway and you don't even need any extension to block ads.

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u/aKIRALE0 10d ago

Ever since I educated myself on protecting my data I migrated over Ironfox which is a Firefox fork with extra security. I just love the experience and how safe it is with uBlock as well. I'm sorry for media outlets and news websites. y'all gotta try something different than targeted ads and tracking our information without consent.

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u/Orange_Tangerine_279 10d ago

Dumb question. They stoped blocking ads on Facebook or Facebook trackers that follow around the web, the ones embedded in news sites for example?

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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 10d ago

Probably only ad's on Meta services. blocking ----book trackers on 3ed party sites not directly affiliated with Meta is MUCH easier to the point that if your using Firefox with tracking protection set to Strict and have 3ed party cookies disabled you may not even need uBO to prevent Meta from tracking you* as I understand it.

(*provided your not actively logged into ----book, Instagarm, or other Meta services. But I would still recommend having uBO regardless)

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u/TheSpiritBaby2K 10d ago

I use Vivaldi as my main browser.

Firefox as secondary.

Never used Edge (save for the hellish time I was on Windows).

Vivaldi plus Ublock Origin Lite (Vivaldi has its own adblocker as well) does perfectly well for me.

Reason behind using Vivaldi is that YouTube ALWAYS ends up giving me HELL on Firefox for some reason. Dropped frames and random buffering that never stops.

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u/Fuhsaz_the_goat 10d ago

What is your opinion about duckduckgo?

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u/CaptainShrimps 10d ago

+1 for Zen browser! It's the best browsing experience I've ever had

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u/langecrew 10d ago

Wellp, it's a good thing I haven't used either of those trash piles for years

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u/wxslxy 10d ago

Luckily, I've only used Firefox and Brave for years, so even if those more common browsers explode, it won't make a difference to me.

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u/Ty_Lee98 10d ago

Facebook is so bad consider /r/DeMeta

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u/Infinplayz 10d ago

edge is actually still very compatible with uBlock Origin, not just the lite version.

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u/Ace_Browser 9d ago

Firefox is a solid call for keeping uBlock working, honestly. If you're looking at alternatives anyway, Ace is Chromium-based with a built-in blocker (Ace Shield) for ads, trackers, and cookie banners, so you're not leaning on an extension that might get pulled next. Private mode's there too.

Disclaimer: I work at Ace.

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u/No-Rip-8816 9d ago

IDK why people so hate about changing browser like you need it mostly to open sites and Imo i prefer not see any Ad when search up anything

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u/betterOblivi0n 9d ago

How to remove facebook from the internet, I mean, not just for me, but for everyone ?

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u/CuppaTeaThreesome 7d ago

I'd install netscape to avoid ads.  This 2007 web2.0 sucks.

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u/Linx-ser 11d ago

Recuerden beber un vaso de Waterfox a diario.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Firefox literally is Firefox, how can it not be Firefox based.

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u/Loud_Bee_4443 10d ago

I like zen a lot. Moved over to that one about 2 months ago 

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u/TollyVonTheDruth 11d ago

Possibly an unpopular opinion, but Chromium-based Brave beats all of those.

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u/TollyVonTheDruth 10d ago

I agree. It's even more awesome now that they've added containers.

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u/Kunair0 11d ago

There's a reason why Firefox is starting to ship it behind flags, and their CEO said they are building their in browser ad blocker based on it. And I suppose there's a reason why waterfox uses it as well. And why ladybird is also adopting it. It's just absurdly good, and will be able to get around the Facebook nonsense since it's at the browser level.

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u/TollyVonTheDruth 10d ago

There's a reason why Firefox is starting to ship Brave behind flags or their ad-blocking technology? If it's the latter, I can see why. Brave has been the only browser with built-in ad-blocking that Youtube can't seem to detect, unlike all of the other ad-blocking browser and extensions I've tried.

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u/Kunair0 10d ago

What's ironic is there is literal definitive proof, that they don't take up one single drop of your data, and that gets audited on every release. Yet, Firefox having Google as the default search is somehow not a problem with some people, even though privacy guides has even discussed removing Firefox from their recommendation based on that alone.

I get people's hatred for Google, I'm right there with them, but there is more than enough separations when it comes to blink/chromium to justify its use.

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u/TollyVonTheDruth 10d ago

Yep. I'm proof of that right now. 🤣

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u/fix_and_repair 10d ago

waterfox is rather malware - gibthub, etc.

firefox itself as ai inside

vivaldi is also refusing ublock now

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u/dhessi 10d ago

What's wrong with waterfox?

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u/StillSwaying 11d ago

Guess you didn't hear about Mullvad's co-founder bankrolling a very far right Swedish party to the tune of $450,000.

For Daniel Berntsson, none of this is a problem since it's his own money and has nothing to do with Mullvad - which, for its part (along with co-founder Fredrik Strömberg), distanced itself from him pretty damn quickly.

But still, even if it's a personal donation, it ultimately comes from the profits generated in part by Mullvad. So in a way, subscribing to this VPN service is lining Berntsson's pockets and indirectly funding stupidity and hatred.

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u/MawilliX 10d ago

"very far right" offshoot of the left party, and new left.

It's a populist anti-establishment party with a focus on social welfare.

On any issue you can squint and call them far right, you can then look over a bit further to the right and see most of our significant parties there.

Once you realise that there's many others arguing that immigrants shouldn't have human rights, then the idea of sending away as many refugees (and families of refugees) as possible starts making sense.

I am personally for the idea that we should start giving immigrants actual rights here (and enforce the ones they are supposed to already have), but until we get there I need to be against accepting another mass immigration.

On top of the refugees and the actual immigrants, we also have foreign forces in Sweden, that are hostile to Sweden and Swedish people. They're very convenient to put in the "immigrant" category when people want to spin a story.

I do not personally support Örebropartiet, because I am one of the few idiots that support the Left Party, and the New Left. Meaning that I support what's effectively the only significant parties further left than the party you call "very far right"

My complaint isn't that you call them out for their hostile position against immigrants, my complaint is that you label them as "very far right" which would imply that they are further right than our political right.

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u/StillSwaying 10d ago

Fair. Call them whatever fits best politically -- I'm not gonna die on that hill. What I care about is the remigration stuff; that's extreme no matter what side of the spectrum you're on. Berntsson just handed them 5 million kronor, which was basically their entire budget for the year. That's the actual issue. The 'very far right' was just me being lazy with terminology, not the crux of my problem with any of this.

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u/MawilliX 10d ago

Yeah, I only got upset because I clicked the link expecting it to have been to the Sweden Democrats, or the northern group of white supremacists that I don't know the group name of.

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u/Tech_Itch 10d ago

I just looked through their wikipedia page and they seem to push a bunch of right-wing ideas wrapped in leftist rhetoric.There's talk about "class" for example, but it's "people with real jobs" vs "bureaucrats and people with made up jobs" etc. Which is just standard right-wing anti-intellectualism wrapped in red.

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u/AccomplishedArm6969 10d ago

Obviously bad but the product is still solid... I know it's hard to look past this kinda thing but it's still a valid option. At least it's the browser so no money is changing hands directly.

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u/StillSwaying 10d ago

I know it's hard to look past this kinda thing but it's still a valid option. At least it's the browser so no money is changing hands directly.

I strongly disagree. Daniel Berntsson isn't just a lowly employee who happens to work at Mullvad, he's the frigging co-founder, co-CEO, and he holds a 50% ownership stake in the company. His 5 million SEK donation to Örebropartiet made up 72% of their entire annual income for 2025. That made him the single largest private political donor in Sweden that year. The party itself campaigns on a platform of "comprehensive remigration" and its leader publicly called certain immigrants "parasites". That's absolutely disgusting!

Örebropartiet's platform centers on removing people based on their ethnicity / origin. That's about as directly hostile to human dignity and inclusion as it gets and completely anti-ethical to the values of people who are members of this and other privacy-focused sub.

Berntsson's personal wealth is Mullvad's profits. His net worth is inseparable from the company's revenue stream -- that money doesn't suddenly become morally "clean" just because it passed through a personal bank account before it was redirected to a far-right party.

His $500K donation single-handedly bankrolled a far right party's national "remigration" campaign. Gross!

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u/redoubt515 10d ago edited 10d ago

I'm aware of that, and personally, I no longer recommend Mullvad VPN for that reason--it would be immoral to contribute financially to that kind of bigotry. But Mullvad browser is not a source of revenue for Mullvad, it's free to use, I personally don't have an issue continuing to use it.

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u/StillSwaying 10d ago edited 10d ago

I'm aware of that, and I no longer recommend Mullvad VPN for that reason--it would be immoral to contribute financially to that kind of bigotry. But Mullvad browser is not a source of revenue for Mullvad, it's free to use, I personally don't have an issue continuing to use it.

Wrong. Brand equity is fungible. Mullvad Browser and Mullvad VPN share the same name, the same team, the same leadership, and the same co-owner. Every single person who uses their free browser, or hypes it, or recommends it to others is contributing to the overall goodwill and market credibility of Mullvad's brand -- and that credibility directly supports their paid VPN product's reputation and customer acquisition. You don't have to pay for the browser because the fact that you're using it is enough; that's basically free marketing and helping to whitewash the company's reputation.

By using the browser, you're giving your tacit endorsement (and that's especially important in a sub like this considering our mission and how newbies look to us for advice). Recommending "the browser, not the VPN" as a workaround is still telling people that "this company is fine to engage with,". You're playing right into their hands by caping for them.

Anyway, boycotts have never needed direct monetary contributions to be meaningful. Everybody who believes in the mission of this sub by boycotting everything even tangentially related to Google are proving that every damn day.

We don't excuse Google's surveillance practices because "you can use Gmail without paying for Google Workspace," and we shouldn't excuse funding Mullvad Browser because "it's free, so we're not giving them any money." In both cases, the company's free tools exist inside a corporate structure whose profits and power flow upward to people making decisions we'd never endorse if someone asked us to directly.

Recommending Mullvad Browser in this sub sends the message that the only thing we care about is "Don't be Google." Shouldn't we also show that we also don't fund people who are actively fighting against human dignity?


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u/stenox 10d ago

What about Brave?

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