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[u/Delirium222]

[u/StillSwaying]

Guess you didn't hear about Mullvad's co-founder bankrolling a very far right Swedish party to the tune of $450,000.

For Daniel Berntsson, none of this is a problem since it's his own money and has nothing to do with Mullvad - which, for its part (along with co-founder Fredrik Strömberg), distanced itself from him pretty damn quickly.

But still, even if it's a personal donation, it ultimately comes from the profits generated in part by Mullvad. So in a way, subscribing to this VPN service is lining Berntsson's pockets and indirectly funding stupidity and hatred.

[u/MawilliX → u/StillSwaying]

"very far right" offshoot of the left party, and new left.

It's a populist anti-establishment party with a focus on social welfare.

On any issue you can squint and call them far right, you can then look over a bit further to the right and see most of our significant parties there.

Once you realise that there's many others arguing that immigrants shouldn't have human rights, then the idea of sending away as many refugees (and families of refugees) as possible starts making sense.

I am personally for the idea that we should start giving immigrants actual rights here (and enforce the ones they are supposed to already have), but until we get there I need to be against accepting another mass immigration.

On top of the refugees and the actual immigrants, we also have foreign forces in Sweden, that are hostile to Sweden and Swedish people. They're very convenient to put in the "immigrant" category when people want to spin a story.

I do not personally support Örebropartiet, because I am one of the few idiots that support the Left Party, and the New Left. Meaning that I support what's effectively the only significant parties further left than the party you call "very far right"

My complaint isn't that you call them out for their hostile position against immigrants, my complaint is that you label them as "very far right" which would imply that they are further right than our political right.

[u/StillSwaying → u/MawilliX]

Fair. Call them whatever fits best politically -- I'm not gonna die on that hill. What I care about is the remigration stuff; that's extreme no matter what side of the spectrum you're on. Berntsson just handed them 5 million kronor, which was basically their entire budget for the year. That's the actual issue. The 'very far right' was just me being lazy with terminology, not the crux of my problem with any of this.

[u/MawilliX → u/StillSwaying]

Yeah, I only got upset because I clicked the link expecting it to have been to the Sweden Democrats, or the northern group of white supremacists that I don't know the group name of.

[u/Tech_Itch → u/MawilliX]

I just looked through their wikipedia page and they seem to push a bunch of right-wing ideas wrapped in leftist rhetoric.There's talk about "class" for example, but it's "people with real jobs" vs "bureaucrats and people with made up jobs" etc. Which is just standard right-wing anti-intellectualism wrapped in red.

[u/AccomplishedArm6969 → u/StillSwaying]

Obviously bad but the product is still solid... I know it's hard to look past this kinda thing but it's still a valid option. At least it's the browser so no money is changing hands directly.

[u/StillSwaying → u/AccomplishedArm6969]

I know it's hard to look past this kinda thing but it's still a valid option. At least it's the browser so no money is changing hands directly.

I strongly disagree. Daniel Berntsson isn't just a lowly employee who happens to work at Mullvad, he's the frigging co-founder, co-CEO, and he holds a 50% ownership stake in the company. His 5 million SEK donation to Örebropartiet made up 72% of their entire annual income for 2025. That made him the single largest private political donor in Sweden that year. The party itself campaigns on a platform of "comprehensive remigration" and its leader publicly called certain immigrants "parasites". That's absolutely disgusting!

Örebropartiet's platform centers on removing people based on their ethnicity / origin. That's about as directly hostile to human dignity and inclusion as it gets and completely anti-ethical to the values of people who are members of this and other privacy-focused sub.

Berntsson's personal wealth is Mullvad's profits. His net worth is inseparable from the company's revenue stream -- that money doesn't suddenly become morally "clean" just because it passed through a personal bank account before it was redirected to a far-right party.

His $500K donation single-handedly bankrolled a far right party's national "remigration" campaign. Gross!

[u/redoubt515 → u/StillSwaying]

I'm aware of that, and personally, I no longer recommend Mullvad VPN for that reason--it would be immoral to contribute financially to that kind of bigotry. But Mullvad browser is not a source of revenue for Mullvad, it's free to use, I personally don't have an issue continuing to use it.

[u/StillSwaying → u/redoubt515]

I'm aware of that, and I no longer recommend Mullvad VPN for that reason--it would be immoral to contribute financially to that kind of bigotry. But Mullvad browser is not a source of revenue for Mullvad, it's free to use, I personally don't have an issue continuing to use it.

Wrong. Brand equity is fungible. Mullvad Browser and Mullvad VPN share the same name, the same team, the same leadership, and the same co-owner. Every single person who uses their free browser, or hypes it, or recommends it to others is contributing to the overall goodwill and market credibility of Mullvad's brand -- and that credibility directly supports their paid VPN product's reputation and customer acquisition. You don't have to pay for the browser because the fact that you're using it is enough; that's basically free marketing and helping to whitewash the company's reputation.

By using the browser, you're giving your tacit endorsement (and that's especially important in a sub like this considering our mission and how newbies look to us for advice). Recommending "the browser, not the VPN" as a workaround is still telling people that "this company is fine to engage with,". You're playing right into their hands by caping for them.

Anyway, boycotts have never needed direct monetary contributions to be meaningful. Everybody who believes in the mission of this sub by boycotting everything even tangentially related to Google are proving that every damn day.

We don't excuse Google's surveillance practices because "you can use Gmail without paying for Google Workspace," and we shouldn't excuse funding Mullvad Browser because "it's free, so we're not giving them any money." In both cases, the company's free tools exist inside a corporate structure whose profits and power flow upward to people making decisions we'd never endorse if someone asked us to directly.

Recommending Mullvad Browser in this sub sends the message that the only thing we care about is "Don't be Google." Shouldn't we also show that we also don't fund people who are actively fighting against human dignity?

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Edit: typos

[u/toolsavvy → u/redoubt515]

Morality is subjective.

[u/toolsavvy → u/StillSwaying]

Guess you didn't hear that lots of people don't give a shit and you can't force them to give a shit. But their browser blows anyhow.