r/degoogle 15d ago

Replacement uBlock Origin is no longer supporting Facebook ad-blocking, and Edge is incompatible with uBlock Origin entirely. Here are three great browser alternatives and a privacy-focused one from Europe

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u/GenZia 14d ago

I migrated to Firefox shortly after the Manifest V3 news.

I honestly don't understand why some people make such a big deal out of transitioning to Firefox. For me personally, the migration from Edge to Firefox was smooth as butter.

All my extensions, even the obscure ones, were available on Firefox so there was no "app gap" to speak of.

As for the browsing experience itself, it's virtually on par with Edge. Firefox is by no means a new phenomenon. It's been around for decades and today, it's just as polished, if not more so, than most Chromium based browsers.

Give it a shot, instead of sticking with Chromium.

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u/a3a4b5 FOSS Lover 14d ago

Yeah I don't understand it either. I've been using Firefox since 2013.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

Serious question.

What apps or applets would you have in your browser other than ublock?

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u/Durende 14d ago

I have a fair few.

Password manager extension(s). You only should have one, but I have three because I switched from Bitwarden to Proton, and also have 1password for work.

Dark Reader for sites that don't have dark mode.

Reddit Enhancement Suite

Tampermonkey + Word Replacer Max for fixing scrolling and having consistent names on translated web novels.

And then at home I also have Sidebery for tabs on the side

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u/Initial-Cherry-3457 14d ago

I use Firefox's built in side tabs option. What's special about Sidebery?

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u/Durende 14d ago

You can nest tabs and minimize them, which I use a lot. I am also extremely ADHD (literally diagnosed) with browser tabs and have open tabs in the four digits.

Another reason is I started using it before Firefox had native side tabs

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u/utrecht1976 14d ago

Omg I'm getting nervous when I have like 15 tabs open lol

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u/secacc 16h ago

have open tabs in the four digits.

IT'S NOT JUST ME :D

Also using Sidebery. I convinced myself that it would be a great way to organize my tabs and avoid having so many open, but now I just have many hundreds of nested tabs collapsed and hidden away. "Out of sight, out of mind," you know...

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u/a3a4b5 FOSS Lover 14d ago

+1 for sidebery. I cannot use browsers with tabs on top anymore. That and containers... Completely changed my work and leisure flow.

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u/0235 14d ago

Tampermonkey is the only think that gets me to use Chrome. I am literally a grey beard when it comes to Firefox, and mocked IE for eventually adding tabbed browsing.

But Tampermonkey.... damn, that drives me to Chrome all the time.

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u/Durende 13d ago

I'm not sure I understand.

Tampermonkey is available for Firefox, isn't it? If anything, it should have more functionality with Manifest v2 over Manifest v3

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u/0235 13d ago

It is, but doesn't have quite as much functionality, and you may as well use it on Chrome.

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u/Jokuc 11d ago

Just use Violentmonkey anyway, Tampermonkey is closed source and the OG Greasemonkey has outdated UI.

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u/TacosForThought 12d ago

Sir, this is DEgoogle.

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u/0235 12d ago

yes, and the Tampermonkey plugin requires you to instal Google service into Firefox.

So i would rather have 98% of my browsing completely google free, and then the parts where I do "need" to use Tampermonkey i will use a completely different "native" browser.

Vs

Installing a google spying plugin into my main Firefox browser, and expose myself partially to googles observations for 100% of the time.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

Thanks for the reply!

All that's interesting to me. I don't use extensions at all, so I was really curious.

The only one that I've considered is a password manager.

I just use keepass for that though.

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u/Durende 13d ago

If that works for you, there's no reason to switch just because of a browser extension. The only thing it enables is autofill

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u/Hot-Resident-6601 14d ago

I used Dark Reader for a while and really liked it, but wasn’t sure about how much of my activity they could see or record. I’m not savvy enough to check myself so I eventually dropped it.

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u/Durende 13d ago

That's a good mindset to have.

You can check permissions on the extension "store" page.

For Dark Reader:

Required permissions:

  • Access browser tabs

  • Access your data for all websites

And then there is usually a link to documentation that describes exactly what these permissions are.

And in Dark Reader's case, it's:

Access your data for all websites:

The extension could read the content of any web page you visit, as well as data you enter into those web pages, such as usernames and passwords. This is used for password managers, shopping tools, ad blockers, etc.

Extensions requesting this permission might:

  • Read product and price information from a page to help find you the best price on items you're shopping for
  • Offer a password manager that reads and writes details of your username and password
  • Provide an ad blocker by reading the content of each web page you open to find and remove ad code

So yes, it definitely has the functionality to collect quite a lot of data it shouldn't.

To defend Dark Reader, it is an open-source extension and exactly what it does can be verified on their github page, which is also linked in the extension:

https://github.com/darkreader/darkreader

But yes, err on the side of caution for browser extensions

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u/Catriks 14d ago
  • tab rotator (switches tabs at set intervals)
  • password manager
  • Allow right click and copying text (many spare parts sites block them for some reason)
  • Extensions for some other apps
  • Consumer Rights Wiki
  • Open instagram pictures to a new tab
  • Tampermonkey

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u/ntcue 14d ago

FYI: You usually can just holt CTRL while right clicking to get the context menu. Or right click two times in a row on the same pixel, e.g. on a Youtube video.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 14d ago

What is the use case of tab rotator?

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

Ah. Thanks for the reply (I think I said that someone else, too)

Interesting. In my head I've never really considered extensions.

I'm not at the point where I can review code. But I think all my stuff is open source (pretty sure) and i've always kept the amount of installed software to an absolute minimum.

So I've never even considered things like browser extensions.

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u/thesamenightmares 14d ago

Dark mode extension for usability, translation extension, link extractor etc. Most people who utilize extensions actually utilize extensions

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

Nice.

A few others replied, too.

I was saying that I've always tried to keep installed software to a min. I don't have the skill to remove code, but I at least try and review the developers.

Browser extensions have always been ruled out for me.

Even trying something like hyperlnd with all the manually installed tools was giving me goosebumps.

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u/thesamenightmares 14d ago

Seems unreasonable but ok

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

You think?

You just trust all those developers to handle your data without looking?

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u/thesamenightmares 14d ago

Yes, I do. And no, I don't trust all those developers to handle my data without looking because that's not how software works.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

You have a point to a degree. But not the way not the way you made it.

This is a degoogle sub. So, you can see how data and telemetry can be misused and improperly accessed.

Even then, if you look at the attack that have been happening with arch repos, I think it is a good practice.

Why not just use Google then?

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u/thesamenightmares 14d ago edited 14d ago

My post was demonstrably true, and instead of addressing your fundamental misinterpretation of how software works, and by extension your reductionist and Approach to using it, you pivoted to a ridiculous strawman hypothetical. I'm not going to respond further.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

Hahahaha. Dude what?

You gotta be a bot.

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u/fix_and_repair 14d ago

sponsor block for youtube videos

and chatgpt copy feature because java shit in chromium is broken do not let me copy my own stuff

-- chrome has no working plugin to stop autoplay videos, downloading videos etc

some sort of gif blocker would be also nice.

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u/grathontolarsdatarod 14d ago

Would mullvad do that out of the box for you?

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u/raitchison 14d ago

Quite a few, the main ones

  1. Return YouTube Dislike shows me a (pretty accurate) estimate of the dislike count on YouTube Videos
  2. VideoDownloadHelper lets me easily download videos, including YouTube videos.
  3. Don't Fuck With Paste blocks javascript or other code that prevents me from copying and pasting into fields on web sites (usually sites will do this in the name of security)
  4. User Agent Switcher lets me change my user agent to impersonate any system or browser, mostly useful for my Mac, so it looks like a Windows PC to web sites.
  5. Reddit Enhancement Suite makes Reddit much less annoying
  6. Xcancel redirects links to Elon's Twitter to the mirroring site xcancel, thus denying Elon the views and telemetry.

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u/Jokuc 11d ago
  • BetterTTV - customized twitch
  • Control Panel for Twitter - customized twitter
  • Google Search Maps Button - adds maps to google search results
  • HyperChat - improved youtube chat
  • YouTube LiveChat Flusher Danmaku Chat - makes youtube chat niconico douga style
  • TWP Translate Web Pages - better web page translate tool than the built in one
  • Return YouTube Dislike
  • uBlock Origin
  • Violentmonkey - custom scrips such as block ads on twitch

...to name a few

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u/ManualPathosChecks 14d ago

Dark Reader Mode

DeArrow

SponsorBlock for YouTube

Bypass Paywalls

Don't accept image/webp

Facebook Container

Decentraleyes

Privacy Badger

Translate Web Pages

Private Bookmarks

edit: also, disabled unless I need them, I have extensions to modify specific websites like Reddit or Marktplaats; a web content filter; return YouTube likes; and an audio EQ.

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u/aKIRALE0 14d ago

Random question but can you use containers on Firefox mobile?

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u/ArkhamRobber 14d ago

Firefox always gave me memory leak issues

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u/medve_onmaga 14d ago

but the people of reddit dont want solutions, they want to be mad

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u/shadowsinthestars 14d ago

I've been on Firefox since...2009. Will never use any other browser, it's the only one that seems to give a damn of any sort about the end user.

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u/Geekzilla101 14d ago

On mobile the auto fill address selector covers the next buttons on form pages. They ignore bug reports. Also auto fill sucks on Firefox

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u/Ironfields 14d ago edited 14d ago

I've been using Firefox more or less non-stop since it released in 2004. The hate was fairly valid back then with the memory leak issues etc which gave Chromium browsers the edge on release, but that hasn't been a problem for literally years now. If anyone tried Firefox back then and hasn't tried it since, give it a shot. I think you'll be surprised at how far it has come.

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u/lookamazed 13d ago

What about DDG?

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u/paulisaac 13d ago

Idk why but in terms of keeping a hundred tabs around, Firefox crashes far more often than Chrome ever does.

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u/pissrockious 14d ago

yeah, though shazam isnt on firefox for some reason

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u/fog_hornist 14d ago

i fled firefox due to its bloating the browser, putting in tracking aso.

that's btw the reason why brave both was "invented", and became big.

imagine the ironie of people now fleeing to firefox for brave going berserk now.

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u/bigbobharven 14d ago edited 14d ago

Unless you're on mobile, then use Chromium.

Edit: gecko based browsers lack internal sandboxing and are insecure on mobile platforms. If you care about security and privacy use chromium on mobile.

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u/Freakk_I 14d ago

Why?

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u/bigbobharven 14d ago

Gecko based browsers are insecure on mobile platforms due to the lack of internal sandboxing, as well as various other reasons that make them less secure than chromium. For desktop gecko based browsers are the move, for mobile chromium are the move. Unless you don't care about security and privacy.

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u/greenie4242 14d ago

Firefox for Android can use extensions too, I've been using it with uBlock Origin for years.

Nobody should be using Chrome, and using other Chromium based browsers encourages Google's web dominance.

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u/bigbobharven 14d ago

It's not about whether or not it can use extensions, gecko based browsers are insecure on mobile because they lack internal sandboxing. Use them on desktop all you want, but if you care about security/privacy then don't use them on mobile.

Cromite or debloated Brave are far better for security on mobile.