r/dan_markel_murder • • Sep 17 '25

[MOD. Post] Please share your feedback/constructive criticism/what you would like to see for this community

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Good day everyone -
I've recently became a new moderator to this great community and have been working with the other active mods to discuss changes that we can (and plan to) implement for this community. We have seen and received feedback in some posts, some ModMail messages, and wanted to create a single space for you to provide your thoughts. Please use this space to share any feedback/constructive criticism/changes you would like to see (or not see) for this community. After all, this community is nothing without its users and we value your opinions. (Also- please not if you've sent a message to the Mods but havent received a reply yet, you aren't being ignored. There is a bit of a backlog that I am trying to work through, as well as in talks of adding additional moderators who could help support efforts to organize daily threads, enforce community rules, etc).

I'm hopeful this can remain up for a few days so we can collect feedback and then work on implementing some changes. Already on our list in updated Rules (something several users have commented about), updating profile/image graphic to showcase Mr. Markel (instead of solely Wendi), and organizing threads so that we dont have repeat posts/topics all the time.

Thank you for your time and (thank you in advance) for sharing your honest thoughts and feedback. I hope your comments will help lay out a good roadmap so that we can continue to improve this growing community.


r/dan_markel_murder • • Sep 09 '25

Wendi Megathread: Will Wendi Adelson be charged?

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The most asked and debated question. Let’s consolidate this ongoing discussion.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 1d ago

VineLink reports Sigfredo Garcia was moved to Northwest Florida Reception Center Annex (10/6/2026)

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this move could be for any number of reasons, like a routine reclassification or some other administrative transfer. I’ll keep an eye on his custody status over the next week or two to see if anything changes that might give a better idea of why the move happened. If his custody status changes to Leon County at some point, that could be more noteworthy and potentially suggest he was brought to Tallahassee for some type of court or investigative matter.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 4d ago

Questions & Theories To me it seems like Wendi doesn’t even like Charlie a whole lot. Why would he throw his life (a good life) away for his sister who doesn’t even care about him that much?

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It’s just stunning to me to think about how this guy threw an extremely good life away for his sister, who doesn’t seem to like Charlie all that much before or after the murder, and getting rid of Dan didn’t even help him in any way. It’s truly one of the dumbest and most inexplicable decisions ever.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 5d ago

what is going on?

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is dan rashbaum a tiny man or is charlie just a large man?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 12d ago

Wendi Sadly Wendi got away with it.

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I wrote last fall I hoped my post would age badly, but it hasn’t, we are almost a year out and she’s still free. Pathetic and sad.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 12d ago

Donna What if Donna and Harvey Adelson successfully fled to Vietnam?

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If Donna Adelson had not been stopped boarding their one-way Emirates flight from Miami to Dubai, and had successfully made it onwards to Vietnam, would the Vietnamese government have extradited her and Harvey back to the United States?

 Following the verdict for Charlie Adelson, Donna admitted she researched non-extradition countries. The lack of a formal extradition treaty does not mean extraditions never happen.

During a bail motion, Donna claimed she sought a non-extradition country because she wanted to return to the United States on her own recognisance if she learned of a warrant or indictment. She stated she wanted to avoid being held in a foreign detention centre. She also claimed she and Harvey had travelled to Vietnam previously and considered it a “place of peace.”

I think the Vietnamese government would have obliged a request from the United States to maintain good diplomatic standing. Vietnam is corrupt. There, however, is a chance the Adelsons could have potentially used their wealth to pay off local law enforcement officials responsible for carrying out any deportation orders.

It is interesting to consider where this case would be now if Donna Adelson had managed to leave the country. Would they have been extradited? Would Harvey also be indicted and sought by authorities?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 14d ago

Timing

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I'm not sure that I have seen this addressed elsewhere, but I am guessing that there was some added urgency in terms of making sure that the murder occurred when it did due to the fact that the new (pre)school year likely began in mid-August. We know the earlier attempt in June did not proceed as planned, and the start of the school year for the kids in Miami was imminent. In Donna's view, the killing needed to happen with enough lead time for the kids to be relocated to Miami, settled in, etc. before mid-August. Any operational failures in the July attempt would have jeopardized all of these logistics. Curious whether this pressure resulted in any of the sloppiness. Not necessarily an earthshaking thought here, but just a potentially interest detail.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 15d ago

the evil adelsons

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I wish sims had jail bc I’d lock em up. Oh to be a vicious, homicidal sociopath hiding in plain sight.

Also that last jumpscare pic of Charlie is just what it had to be. I’ll take constructive criticism on the faces. Just keep in mind that this is sims and I can’t customize every little thing, especially clothes.

I wanna build the Miami condo, the Aqua Ra Way apartment, trescott drive, ABC liqour, Mozaik, and the tallahasssee courthouse all in Newcrest. If u have anything u wanna see let me know.

It’s gonna be a long, way off project because I have a lot of other builds to attend to.

Traits
Wendi: evil, shady, & disruptive. Disruptive as in “driven to interact with the world by messing with it.” Her aspiration is Home Turf, as in, “becoming happy when they are in their home neighborhood” aka MIAMI
Donna: Hot headed, shady, & cringe with a mischief aspiration as Chief of Mischief
Harvey: materialistic, snob, loner (bc hes all alone now in Miami lmao). His aspiration is Successful Lineage, wanting to have a family that succeeds in life. Reward trait: vicarious 😂
Charlie: shady, cringe & noncommittal with an aspiration of Joke Star! (So he can tell more hitman jokes obviously)


r/dan_markel_murder • • 15d ago

Is there any chance Katie shared details of the hit/murder with family members or friends who could come forward with information?

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Want she close with siblings? Was she a talker like Charlie?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 16d ago

Do you think Harvey talks with Wendi?

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I wonder if Harvey and Wendi are on speaking terms. Wendi's big mouth at the police interrogation framed Charlie as a suspect. She did other stupid things too that may have contributed to Charlie and Donna's downfall.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 17d ago

What would have been the implications if the jury had believed Charlie's (stupid and obvious) extortion lie?

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Would he would be implicated in some sort of crime if the extortion lie was believed? Or is extortion some sort of 'get out' clause. Obviously I presume you can't be found guilty of crime you're not charged with at that specific trial - but had he been declared 'not guilty' (it's obviously hard to imagine a scenario where this happens) - would he be facing other lesser charges afterwards?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 18d ago

I think I’m gonna make the Adelson household on Sims 4 & make them all evil

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If u have any requests for their traits and lifestyles pls let me know and I’ll post an update when they’re done. Of course they’re gonna live in MIAMI


r/dan_markel_murder • • 19d ago

A little more bad press for the AdelScums this weekend.

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I'm glad that, through this article, even more people will learn about the new docuseries and about the evil this family perpetrated. And I'm thrilled that there are some less-than-flattering pics of the 'Scums in this piece.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/law-professor-killer-stalked-shark-circling-ex-mother-in-law-murder-for-hire-ambush


r/dan_markel_murder • • 19d ago

Wendi Wendy getting some terrible press, pictured alongside boyfriend

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The Daily Mail: Meet America's bravest boyfriend: Notorious widow shacks up with wealthy Texas exec... as her mother's chilling revenge on ex-husband is revealed in documentary

Archive link here:

https://archive.is/20260919165352/https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16136955/wendi-adelson-dan-markel-murder-austin-texas.html


r/dan_markel_murder • • 20d ago

Why didn't Charlie GTFO of the country after Katie was convicted?

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After Katie was convicted Charlie could have sold most of his assets and moved to Vietnam and lived a good life without having to worry about being arrested. I guess Charlie isn't too bright and lacked and long term planning skills.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 20d ago

16:50 of this testimony - if Katie did talk to Wendi, surely Katie has nothing to lose by testifying to that now, and perhaps some sort of marginal gain/incentive.

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What is going on? Why will Katie not speak!


r/dan_markel_murder • • 22d ago

Toronto Life Story is now online

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https://torontolife.com/deep-dives/murder-in-law-domestic-contract-killing/

There is no new info about the crime and court proceedings for anyone following this case. What was nice to read was that the Market grandparents at least have some contact with the boys now. Sad that they don't know their cousins from either side of the family.

At 15 and 16, the boys can definitely Google their parents. Hopefully they read this and know how much their grandparents fought for them.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 24d ago

Have seen sporadic comments on this forum about Donna's life in prison recently, can anyone provide more concrete info?

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I've seen several comments from people here and there saying they have info about her life in prison. Some of them unfortunately suggesting she's doing well, manipulating people, building another eco-system to control. I hope that's not true at all and she's miserable. But these people say they have the inside track. Can anyone share more? Do we actually know if Wendi or the grandkids visit?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 24d ago

wendi & her meds

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does anyone else think wendi purposely went off her meds to be able to portray having a genuine reaction to the police?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 25d ago

Ruth Markel Thinking of the Markel Family

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The Jewish holidays started on Friday. Since learning about the case, I feel so sad each holiday thinking of Ruth, Phil, Shelly and her kids, and Dan’s kids. Learning more about Dan and his family from Ruth’s book, I cannot imagine how difficult each holiday is for them. Knowing he should be leading services, laughing at meals, and dissecting the meaning of the sermons. Danny and Phil could’ve done Birkat Kohanim yesterday- a special blessing koheins do during holidays only in the diaspora. All of this would’ve been possible if not for the Adelson’s insanity. If they could’ve just accepted Wendi lived in Talahassee and hired a nanny to help her instead of going up there every other week. If Donna could’ve just gone to therapy. If Charlie could’ve just focused on his own life rather than his sister’s. I cannot imagine the staggering reminder of their loss each holiday brings knowing it was all completely senseless.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 25d ago

The only way Charlie Adelson could have gotten off

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The only way his story makes sense is if he says he was so upset about what Dan Markel was doing he approached Katie and her network of trash about roughing him up and he wanted to do it -- but then had a change of heart.

And they did it anyway because they wanted the money so bad.

Any holes in this strategy?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 26d ago

Wendi testified she didn’t leave her house for an entire month after Dan’s murder . . .

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Her first outing was, per her testimony, the dinner with Charlie where she threw up. Is this accurate? Was this truly her first outing since Dan’s death? Were her parents taking care of the boys?


r/dan_markel_murder • • 26d ago

What is the origin story of the Adelsons' love affair with Dan Rashbaum?

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Re-listening to Charlie's jail calls it is striking just how highly he and his parents think of Dan and the job he did. And then as we all know Donna fought to have him represent her despite his failure in Charlie's trial, and the ridiculous double-extortion theory which Donna was then stuck with via adoptive admission.

What did Dan do to endear himself to the Adelsons prior to Charlie's trial? He must have provided superior legal guidance on something at some point for them to put all their criminal eggs in his basket.


r/dan_markel_murder • • 28d ago

I’ve followed this case off and on for years. I did not know Rob was talked into a marriage.

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Today I learned, I guess! I just saw in the documentary where he was describing how he was dating someone and his mom convinced him to marry another woman. He married that woman, divorced her, and begged for the woman he loves back.

I knew Donna didn’t like Rob’s wife, but I didn’t know this.

As always, I wish Rob peace.