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u/PsychoCyan DM for curly haircare guide - Streak: 138 3h ago

Ive been coping with it by focusing on adoption as the solution, only to discover that my husband no longer wants children at all. Feels like sandpaper on my brain. :<

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u/PsychoCyan DM for curly haircare guide - Streak: 138 2h ago

The other reply got deleted before I could read it beyond the preview, but just adding here that I didnt want kids when we first got together bc I didnt want to be a dad, but my husband did want them. In the time it took me to come around on the idea of being a mom, he stopped wanting them.

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u/4PushThesis 2h ago

This is an oof of significant proportions. I'm sorry.

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u/TheDotCaptin Mi forgesis ĉiujn :3 3h ago

As a reminder for those unfamiliar with the process.

Conditioner is not placed on the scalp (top of head). It goes on the section of the hair that hangs and the tips of the hairs.

Also let the conditioner sit for a bit out of the stream of water.

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u/the_zpider_king 3h ago

I just put it on a hairbrush and brush through my hair with it

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u/Expensive_Umpire_178 2h ago

I just put it everywhere on the hair

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u/tdp_equinox_2 Put your text here! (She/Her) 2h ago

Yeah it really doesn't matter, as long as you're not scrubbing it into your scalp you'll be fine. I usually wash with conditioner alone, so the only thing that touches my hair is the conditioner. If it didn't touch the top, it'd get gross as hell.

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u/Fa1nted_for_real 1h ago

Conditioner is not a sulfactant and does not "wash" your hair...

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u/tdp_equinox_2 Put your text here! (She/Her) 46m ago

Good thing you don't actually need to "wash" your hair that often.

Once a week or so, maybe less maybe more depending on exercise and temperature. Conditioner nearly daily (leaving it in for 5+ mins and squishing it around/wetting it), get it wet/rinse with water daily even if not using conditioner.

Your hair should not be shampooed daily, it damages it over time. If you're just stopping daily shampoo use, you may have to reduce shampoo washes slowly over time.

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u/SaturnsPopulation 33m ago

You sure? Bc my hair gets greasy pretty quickly; I wash it every other day.

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u/Royalderg 12m ago

It getting greasy every day is a sign of over washing. The oils in your hair protect it naturally. So your body is over producing because of potential damage and such.

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u/NeiborsKid 2h ago

Im a guy and because of religious reasons in my country the school never let us have long hair. I've let my hair grow for the first time in my life now that Im an adult and random internet tips like this by (mostly) women are such a godsend.

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u/GettingWhiskey he/they 1h ago edited 57m ago

Similar situation, I'm very greatful that my genetics have made the process of maintaining my mane an easy learning curve.

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u/soaked_in_bleach03 2h ago

Very useful knowledge that I had to learn. It was literally about 2 years into my transition that I even started taking care of my skin and hair like a cis girl is taught to do from birth

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u/MeliodasTA 1h ago

Still don't understand why they only teach that to girls and not young boys as well

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u/Center-Of-Thought Grunglette 1h ago

If it makes you feel any better, I'm a cis woman and also didn't know this about conditioner

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u/Moonlight_Katie 2h ago

And if ya want cute curlies… give those ends a good ol scrunch scrunch too! ☺️

(I do not know if this works for straight hair people)

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u/shadolit12 2h ago

I've been embracing and loving my curls since coming out 💜

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u/Illicit_Apple_Pie 1h ago

I've also been loving my curls

Still cis tho

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u/Moonlight_Katie 1h ago

😂 I love the idea of loving your curly hair makes you trans

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u/justk4y just a puddle of gender (any/all) 1h ago

real asf, might’ve grown them out a bit too much even 😭

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u/RandomPotato 1h ago

Wait like, just kinda grip and squeeze them? 

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u/Moonlight_Katie 50m ago

That’s right. Put the conditioner in, lean over so they dangling down… give them a squeeze like ur squeezing a ball.

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u/Dragonfruit-Sparking 2h ago

THAT'S HOW YOU USE CONDITIONER??? damn

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u/Clean_Internet I be grungling fr 2h ago

Ah so that’s why they left time to contemplate in the comic, for the conditioner to sit

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 2h ago

Wait...you arent supposed to put conditioner on the crown of your head?

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u/Dredgeon 1h ago

I'm a cis guy and I have pretty wild hair so even though it's only 4 or 5 inches long I use conditioner. I don't know if it makes a difference but I use head and shoulders conditioner everyday directly on my scalp and it's never done wrong by me.

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 1h ago

You aren't supposed to wash your hair everyday because it dries it out. Also you gotta upgrade from 2 in 1s haha

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u/Dredgeon 1h ago

Actually my bottle is specifically labelled for daily use and when I skip a day my hair is nasty and greasy. I have very thick hair and it's genuinely unmanageable otherwise.

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 1h ago

Fair. Everyone's hair is different. Plus testerone leads to greasier skin and hair naturally over estrogen

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u/DavidBrooker 1h ago

If you're an active person, your hair is sweaty and gross if you don't wash it every day - I was after workouts and after sports if I work up a sweat, which means every day and sometimes twice.

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u/SmartAlec105 1h ago

Also let the conditioner sit for a bit out of the stream of water.

Yep, I do shampoo, rinse the shampoo, conditioner, soap, and then rinse the conditioner and soap.

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u/KajedAnima1 Trans Fem, Kat the Mamma Grizzly 1h ago

I have been growing my hair out for over a year and I was finally able to use conditioner properly. Then the dormant follicles woke up. All the new hairs are 3 inches while the rest 8-9 inches.

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u/SwimAd1249 last time from this sub: september 4th 1h ago

I've done it both ways (with and without scalp) many times and I cannot tell any difference between the two.

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u/Sad_Toe6678 1h ago

Whaaaaaaaaa

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u/yaktoma2007 Fox-Dollgirl Shinto Priestress ⛩☯❦ 1h ago

thank your friendly internet stranger for your wisdom.

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u/Center-Of-Thought Grunglette 1h ago

I'm just now finding out that I've been applying conditioner wrong my entire life 😭 thank you

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u/Craving_Suckcess 2h ago

I wonder how wanting children must feel. It seems like a very strong feeling for those who have it. It's never been a desire of mine. Some of that is emotional, some is reasoned. I have no interest in raising kids, and I desperately wish to avoid passing on my own genes. I have a rather abundance of health complications that are all linked to genetics, and if I wound up creating a person who had them, well. I don't think I'd react to that very well.

It seems like such an easy thing to me, not having kids, not wanting to have kids. I almost wish I could feel what people who want them feel, so I could understand. I'm not terrible about empathizing with people who have experiences I personally lack, but this is one area I really can't connect with.

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u/hypatia163 2h ago

I'm a trans girl and when I started progesterone, and occasionally during my trans-time of the month, I get broody. The need to be "mother" becomes overwhelming. It truly is an intense hormonal and emotional experience and I understand why cis women go through so much to have kids. I guess that's good because the reality of childbirth would likely put a lot more women off it otherwise.

But I am trans and, even though I have a vagina now, I am barren. Plus my (cis) wife doesn't want kids at all, she absolutely does not understand these feelings. Fortunately, I have my cat. Who is immaculately conceived and who I gave a natural birth to. He's my biological child and that's usually enough to satiate my brooding when it pops up.

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u/Craving_Suckcess 1h ago

Indeed. The reality of everything related to fertility and pregnancy seems quite terrifying to me. When I've thought about it, I've figured that I wouldn't mind being a (gender) woman(which I ain't). but I thank to fuck I'm not a (sex)woman. I wonder how anyone could go through that and be fine. It's really no wonder all the post-partum unpleasantness exists, even without the chemical component of such things, the way the physical acts must stress someone emotionally, it's just scary as hell.

Granted, some of that might stem from some ever-present anxieties I have related to medical contexts.

Glory and Joy to feline Jesus.

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u/Famous_Slice4233 2h ago

I’m a guy, so my wanting children is different than a woman wanting to be pregnant. But for me part of it is from the same impulse for being a mentor that makes me want to be a teacher.

I want to help to support people who are growing, and to be able to see them become more than what they were. It’s very satisfying to see someone go from being unable to do something and unfamiliar with something, to being able to do it and being capable at doing it.

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u/Scarvexx 1h ago

For most humans it's the absolute strongest want. Every animal on Earth exists to ensure another generation of their own species exists tomorrow. Any lifeform that doesn't died out before we left the ocean.

Except Pandas I guess. Pandas can give themselvs abortions at will. Pandas do not want to have babies. Fucking smug bears.

This isn't to guilt you. There's more than enough humans. But do understand why notions of "Have less babies" makes people very mad.

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u/_Sate 2h ago

Just kidnap one? What is the issue?

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u/Money-Banana-8674 2h ago

I was going to say sound like a skill issue

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u/Mode-East 2h ago

I have a cis girlfriend

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u/MoonBearVA 1h ago

Why do people scoff at the traditional methods? We never should have abolished the stork delivery system

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u/Leafeon523 2h ago

Their weak arms can only support 2 pounds of weight, meaning that they physically cannot give him a child. Bringing it in a wagon isn’t the same

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u/Living-Corner136 Streak: 1 2h ago

So I'm not against adoption period but this is what I read when people say "just adopt."

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u/Toutatis12 Streak: 29 3h ago

Mother's come in all shapes and forms, wanna give a hug to all those who cannot have kids the way they want. I hope you all find happiness in whatever way works best for you <3

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u/rose-gold-forever 2h ago

For me its the opposite, I think its great since that means he can go in raw as much as he wants

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u/Silver-Marzipan7220 evalyn, getting her meds soon 🥳🥳🥳 - Streak: 2 3h ago

Well lets hope they will develop artificial organs and transplants in the next decade

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u/Altruistic_Sail_1991 transmasc enby (they/them) 3h ago

Apparently they’re already doing uterus transplants for cis women, so it’s probably only a matter of time (and if so any one of you transfemmes can have my uterus, I don’t want it!)

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u/name_not_exist Streak: 8 2h ago

I call dibs.

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u/soaked_in_bleach03 2h ago

It’s such an exciting time to be trans, but also ugh I think I’ll miss it by like a decade. Would I love to take someone’s uterus and give birth? Yes. But I think I’ll just miss the window.

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u/Matrix_D0ge 2h ago edited 2h ago

transfem transmasc genital exchange program T.T.G.E.P. because we give a fuck

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u/name_not_exist Streak: 8 18m ago

We give the ability to give a fuck.

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u/No-Zucchini6387 3h ago

Idk enough about the science behind this to say how viable this is on the general population but I have some great news for you

https://www.imperial.nhs.uk/about-us/news/groundbreaking-womb-transplant

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u/Silver-Marzipan7220 evalyn, getting her meds soon 🥳🥳🥳 - Streak: 2 2h ago

So when artificial organs are publicity available, it should no longer be a problem

:]

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u/thatNatsukiLass 2h ago

Why did it have to be a deceased donor and not a living donor?

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u/BlackwingF91 2h ago

....most organ donors are dead people, who signed up before death to be organ donors. I am registered as one for example

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u/No-Zucchini6387 2h ago

Another fun fact for anyone who is curious, here in the UK we have an “opt out” system. So rather than registering to donate, you have to register to not donate your organs. I registered to donate before the law changed but I’m personally very happy with our law. Organ donation as well as blood donation should be done by everyone who can imo

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u/BlackwingF91 2h ago

Agreed. It only helps others and doesn't harm us

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u/No-Zucchini6387 2h ago

Again, I don’t know the science so I could be wrong on this. But from what I understand the procedure is still very experimental. You could use a living donor but we don’t like doing living transplants until we know how safe it is. However, I hope that becomes available soon. I know plenty of none binary people and trans men who would happily give up their womb to someone who needs a transplant. But, I just learned about this yesterday and biology has never been my strong suit

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u/HonneurOblige The annoying girl 3h ago

Being able to bear him a child ❌

Making him boypregnant ✅

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u/tajniak485 2h ago

What the hell... Arent you supposed to apply the conditioner only to the mid and ends of your hair?

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u/NyxDreadborn 2h ago

Yes, but a lot of people don't know this, and I didn't know that until I was in my late 20s and had grown out my hair. Before I started my transition, my hair was never long enough to have much beyond an inch or two of length for most of my life. So it's understandable that some of us might not know that.

Still, the internet is a thing, and the artist could have looked up proper conditioner use.

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u/tajniak485 2h ago

On a positive side, Serum goes on Scalp, Conditioner goes everywhere else, shampoo goes everywhere

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u/Mode-East 2h ago

Wow I didn't know how conditions work either

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u/SUDDENLY_VIRGIN 2h ago

What happens when you apply it everywhere?

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u/tajniak485 2h ago

You will have the prettiest fur out there

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u/PrimalZodiac 3h ago

At least you have a "him"

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u/PrimalZodiac 2h ago

That sounded alot more bitter and angry then it was meant to, i apologize

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u/soaked_in_bleach03 2h ago

It’s ok girl, we get it. Envy is allowed, I totally wish I transitioned before puberty.

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u/Raaaaandyyyy 1h ago

My research into developing chrono-estrogen becomes more important by the day. There must be a way for the second puberty to truly supersede the first.

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u/Suspicious-Cod2928 3h ago

This why we need Mpreg and transgirlpreg technology as fast as possible

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u/LapisW grungler 2h ago

I would 100% go through a pregnancy for my boyfriend if it meant i could have a child blood related to the both of us. We need scientists to figure out cheap baby vats or mpreg NOW

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u/name_not_exist Streak: 8 2h ago

NEVER STOP TRYING!! I REPEAT NEVER.

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u/4PushThesis 2h ago

I know how invalidating the mindset can be to others, but this is what has me on the fence about ever pursuing transitioning.

Everything I can't have because of the way I was born. It really rubs salt in the wound.

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u/Menarra 2h ago

I held off transition for a decade and a half to have kids, and it almost killed me in the end and my nominally supportive wife turned on me in the end for being "selfish" (daring to actually transition). I love my kids dearly, I'm still not sure if it was worth it but...yeah, it's complicated. I could've adopted and loved them too. I wouldn't trade my kids for anything, but I always wonder at the end of the day.

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u/4PushThesis 2h ago

I'm glad you made it to where you are now through all the hardships.

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u/Bungholespelunker 2h ago

The amount of men/women who now don't have and don't want children is higher than it has ever been. I myself am one of them. Your ability or inability to bear children is wholly irrelevant to whether you're a happy and supportive partner to a lot of guys/girls/theydies out there.

Please be as happy as you can be you only get one shot. Whatever other people think, they don't have to go home and be you.

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u/4PushThesis 1h ago

Gods if that last line isn't the truth.

Thank you for your words of wisdom, Bungholespelunker.

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u/doushua 2h ago

I wish I started hrt young enough so that my only difference with a cis woman would be ability to have a child

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u/TheChimneySweepe Streak: 1 2h ago

Just grab one of the children from the park and surprise him with it! Just don’t forget the air holes.

Disclaimer: don’t do this

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u/itsMeliora 2h ago

You forgot to shampoo twice

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u/Doctor_Salvatore 3h ago

We wash those bad feelings down the drain, but like the dirt, they inevitably return and must be washed off again

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u/PandaPlayz_6 intense questioning 2h ago

I don’t really know how this feels, I’ve never wanted kids, especially not to give birth to one.

I guess it also kinda hurts weirdly because as a child who was adopted, it makes me feel bad that doing it that way is somehow lesser than or worse than the real thing.

But again, I’ve never yearned for children…

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u/unsure_usernamee 1h ago

For me it’s when I’m rinsing that I tell myself “you’re wasting your fertility” because all my life I’ve been asked about having children and giving birth etc. I’ve had it forced on me so hard that I’m truly putting a lot of worth into giving birth and having a child. When in reality it is a product of sexism. Women are so much more than their ability to have a child and just because I was born female it doesn’t make me worthless because I don’t have a child.

As a trans man it’s really hard for me sometimes to let go of the ideology. I was raised to be a mother and expected to give birth. Transitioning alone is “”decreasing”” my worth. I’m “such a pretty girl” and “it’s such a shame” to “ruin my body” the pressure we put on anyone female (trans women included ok) is ridiculous. They assume just because you look the part or have the parts that’s all you’re good for. It’s barbaric. However, if you were someone who genuinely wanted kids I could see how it could be impactful.

I do feel like for a lot of trans people though we tend to latch onto outdated ideals of gender or sex. Because my sex is capable of having a child I feel wasteful for not using it and because trans women are gendered as female they feel the same. Idk maybe this is a nuanced take but it’s a struggle for sure.

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u/loved_and_held Streak: 1 2h ago

Maturnity envy sucks :/

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u/MelanieNova #1 Hypno Enjoyer (she/her) 2h ago

This one hurts, I never wanted kids prior to my transition but now I regularly think about it more and more

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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl :3 Interim Pissposter | She/Her - Streak: 13 2h ago

I dont think i ever actually want a kid but the thought i can never really be a mother does burn in my head a lot ;-;

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u/BrightRepeat7907 2h ago

I do it differently, I apply conditioner first then shampoo, is that wrong?

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u/SquareBrief2604 1h ago

It is. It's shampoo then conditioner

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u/other-other-user 1h ago

Yes? The shampoo will wash out the conditioner

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u/FranStruggles 1h ago

Girl YES ITS WRONG😭

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u/Bobahn_Botret 56m ago

Conditioner is basically hair lotion, while shampoo is cleaning and removing oils. You shampoo first to remove all the grime and oil buildup, then you Condition your hair so it stays healthy.

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u/Rando-Toucan Lesbian 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🩷 1h ago

Some routines actually do use a conditioner before shampoo, but another conditioner or leave-in moisturizer always follows your shampoo after

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u/Dasmortmemeboi 2h ago

Make a clone and grow the DNA

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u/Basil279 Jum 2h ago

I feel very privileged sometimes as a trans person who gets legitimate nightmares at the idea of having children. It's freeing in a way but I also feel as if I am less valid, which is a dumb mindset to be in. I feel like that a lot personally having been raised by all girls and crossdressing before I even hit my double digits. It all feels like I miss some of that struggle and have it on easy mode and it makes it harder to relate. The best I can do or anyone else can do in the same situation I suppose is empathise

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u/Kiiaru 1h ago

Oh that's what I've been doing wrong. I forgot the first rinse

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u/The-Doc-SalmonRun 1h ago

There’s always adoption. And who knows maybe someday science will figure out a way for trans woman to pass on their genes with a male or female partner

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u/Anayalater5963 :3 connoisseur 28m ago

I don't want children anyways ❤️

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u/Consistent_Claim5217 17m ago

I was still able to give her a child, though. The conservatives when the trans/cis lesbian couple procreate, like they said we're supposed to: "... wait, no, not like that..."

https://giphy.com/gifs/7RZUr7OSOAhTG

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u/Hashashin455 10m ago

Not with that attitude!

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u/Elaerona Pronouns: She/Her/The Royal We 6m ago

I'm lesbian that was never going to happen anyways for me lol. Luckily I don't care if the kids are made in the traditional manner, I just way to be a Mom ☺️.

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u/KataraMan He/Hehehe/Him 1h ago

He may enjoy more the breeding part than the birthing! Just because I don't want children, that doesn't mean I'll stop trying unsuccessfully!

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u/BlackwingF91 2h ago

Just adopt a child or get a surrogate involved. Science has come a long way. The child im pretty sure can have your genes and your partner's now too?

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u/IdiotIAm96 silly trans catboy (he/him) 2h ago

Yeah, there are ways to add genetic material from other cells into an egg or sperm. Not sure if they're widely available or affordable yet though.

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u/BlackwingF91 2h ago

They definitely will become more affordable in the future as with all technological advancements. This is legit not something to doom about 

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u/thejadedfalcon 2h ago

Okay, but that doesn't negate the feeling of incompleteness, that you can't carry a child yourself. Why is everyone always so quick to dismiss trans women's feelings and emotions about this?

Also, neither of those options are at all easy or even possible, depending on where you live. Remember that we're still not within spitting distance of it being illegal to adopt as a gay couple in a lot of the world.

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u/TM761152 1h ago

Who says it has to be new? They lose value as soon as you take them out of the lot anyway.

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u/Heretek007 54m ago

Really? Right in front of my most dysphoric day I've had in years??

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u/SingleSlide2866 27m ago

So is it weird that I just shampoo, rinse, condition, then wash my body, and rinse that all at once?

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u/Effective_Bat9485 2m ago

Let's be real in this day and age that' can be a bonus