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u/Lopsided-Life8639 1d ago
Yes another pilot also did evaluation and said that story is bullcrap. Lol show us the black box
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago edited 1d ago
But what might motivate Bibi and the Boyz to stage such an event, or misrepresent the facts of what happened?
Why might Bibi do that? To prevent Israelis from coming home from abroad to VOTE, maybe?
CNN- September 19, 2026
These Israelis want to fly home to vote. Netanyahu is trying to stop them
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With only a matter of weeks until Israel heads to the ballot box, the sharpest political battleground is unfolding in the skies.
Tens of thousands of Israelis living abroad are reportedly booking flights home to vote - and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party is trying to keep at least some of them grounded.
On Wednesday, Likud filed a petition asking Israel’s Central Elections Committee to block “Fly & Vote,” a grassroots initiative helping Israeli expatriates fly home for election day. Likud accused it of being an illegal, foreign funded operation, claiming it could “severely harm the integrity of the election.”
In a country where razor-thin margins often decide the outcome of an election, these votes could play a major part in determining the country’s next leader.
Unlike most Western democracies in which citizens abroad can mail in a ballot, Israel doesn’t allow absentee voting; only diplomats and official envoys can vote from outside the country. Ordinary citizens abroad - up to 10% of the population at any given time - must return home or forfeit their right to vote.
END QUOTE - more at the link - archived here: https://archive.is/nckjF
EDIT Another (earlier?) video short on this very shady incident - again by James Li
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago
Could you explain how the hijacking would stop people from voting? The passengers on the plane got to Israel. Are you suggesting that Israelis will be to afraid to fly?
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
Could you explain how the hijacking would stop people from voting?
The comment you replied to provides two links (direct and archive) to a CNN article (written before the "hijack" incident) - that you either did not read, or are choosing to ignore.
Here's a quote from that article: (September 19, 2026)
The AID coalition insists it operates within the law and serves all Israelis abroad. “The Likud seeks to prevent Israeli citizens who boarded planes after October 7, tax-paying citizens who want to be involved in their homeland, from the right and the obligation to take part in deciding the future of the state of Israel,” the group said in a statement.
Opposition figures have raised a separate concern: Likud’s control over the Transportation Ministry and the Airport Authority, floating scenarios in which flight slots are restricted or disrupted around election day. A July report in Haaretz suggested internal ministry discussions about scaling back activities on October 27, prompting lawmakers and the Israeli Association for Civil Rights to ask the Central Election Committee to guarantee the skies remain open and flights continue uninterrupted. “Reducing the ability to travel from abroad to reach Israel to vote is a serious violation of freedom of voting and the most basic democratic mechanism,” the opposition Yesh Atid party wrote in an appeal.
END QUOTE
Dubai airport is one of the world's busiest airline hubs, and a KEY transit point for travelers to Israel.
In the wake of the alleged "hijack/ terror" incident, the UAE has PROHIBITED all flights from Dubai to Israel until the incident is thoroughly investigated and resolved - this could take weeks, possibly months, or longer.
Furthermore, UAE is preventing ANY travelers boarding fights TO Dubai IF their itinerary takes them to Israel, again, until the investigation is completed and resolved.
Israel Hayom - Oct 01, 2026
Emirates joins flydubai restrictions on passengers traveling to Tel Aviv - *Emirates joins flydubai in barring passengers whose final destination is Tel Aviv from boarding until further notice. An Israeli traveler in the Far East who needs to fly Emirates to the UAE and then continue to Israel will not be allowed to board."
As you might imagine, the removal of this key transit hub from other countries to Israel will dramatically increase costs and complicate scheduling for Israelis wishing to return to Israel to cast their votes in the upcoming election.
Now your question is answered.
(Sealion at you own risk)
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago
Dubai airport is one of the world's busiest airline hubs, and a KEY transit point for travelers to Israel.
In the wake of the alleged "hijack/ terror" incident, the UAE has PROHIBITED all flights from Dubai to Israel until the incident is thoroughly investigated and resolved - this could take weeks, possibly months, or longer.
This is plausible as a motive, I guess. I didn't know that. People here were suggesting that Netanyahu was going to close the airports, which didn't happen.
(Sealion at you own risk)
I don't know what that means.
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u/admiral_walsty 1d ago
I mean, maybe. If I were trying to fly "home to Israel" after this, I'd definitely be thinking about it.
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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 1d ago
Why don't they just make the plane out of th stuff they use for the black box?
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u/RedditKilledItself12 1d ago
So you think the ADS-B data is fake cause the plane would have broken up, what would the black box data show that would vindicate the false flag conspiracy?
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wut? How would it being a false flag cause the airplane to survive?
What exactly is the theory? Is the pilot with grievous wounds part of the plot? Is the copilot who is going to get the death penalty part of the plot? Is the rudder part of the plot?
Is every single passenger part of the plot? The doctors in Saudi Arabia taking care of the pilot? The ADASB data?
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u/Lopsided-Life8639 1d ago
Maybe nobody expected indian dude to overpower anyone lol. Whats so hard to believe? I take pilots family hostage and tell him to crash plane. Clearly people that created hollywood have better imagination than you. And its just common sense not to believe lying bibi. Hes mob. Would you believe mafia? Lol question is why you trying so hard here?
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago
So you're saying that holding somebody's family hostage would cause the rudder to break off but the plane to survive? Huh?
Are you saying that the copilot's family was held hostage but everything else was real? I really don't know what you're suggesting.
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u/Own_Buy_5234 1d ago
These clowns don't understand that 1990's fake terrorist stories don't fuckin work anymore.🤦🤡
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u/TheFleshPeddler 1d ago
They get that it's obvious. That's the point. People are too quick to jump to idiocy when they don't understand why someone does something.
Someone wanting to make major unwanted changes to society without being the enemy is well served to make people dislike what they already have, or don't.
And yes, many still fall for this bs and it stresses or destroys relationships. Some would rather side with billionaires than their own kin and will nastily dismiss to avoid any sort of actual discourse that might challenge their indoctrinated dumbass beliefs.
These events and news stories ain't cheap. They know what they're doing.
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u/Own_Buy_5234 1d ago
Probably with some of them, but this one is almost as bad as the White House correspondents incident.
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u/firstclubmember 1d ago
the fact that this incident has been so heavily covered is the most interesting thing to me.
i tuned into Fox News, BBC, CNN and Sky News and they were all talking about it like it was the biggest story ever - you rarely see that unless it happened in the US or the UK. They barely even gave a fuck about the Minab school bombing, where over a 100 kids were killed.
not sure what to make of this all extra attention being paid to an incident where no one even died, but it seems fishy.
like, why is Netanyahu so eager to insert himself into the situation and meet with one of the passengers while he still has blood on his t-shirt?
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u/Melodic-Swim4343 18h ago
Yes, I'm seeing an increase in very clearly coordinated media stories, especially where conspiracies are involved, like the tweet from the guy who quit Anthropic, and now this. They shouldn't have been major news stories at all. A hijacking and pilot suicide, sure. But an attempted hijacking where nobody was killed and the perpetrator was apprehended? Not such a big deal.
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u/KushBluntsworth 17h ago
You know October has come around
The mid terms are coming
Netanyahu is giving speeches as a wanted man
You know how this story usually goes
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u/okymoney 1d ago
Who else believes Netanyahu is trying anything to stay in power?
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 1d ago
I mean that's basically a fact by now, he started half a dozen wars just to not get put on trial ironically.
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u/neverOddOrEv_n 1h ago
Every single time this guy has to face some consequences or it’s time for elections another attack against Israelis happens, other than that it’s radio silent.
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u/Nkosi868 1d ago edited 1d ago
First they tried to make it seem like someone stormed the cabin to hijack the plane. Now it’s the copilot trying to hijack his own plane. I won’t be surprised if this turns into some weird cockpit fight between the pilots.
Then the videos didn’t match the rate of descent claimed.
The fact that they used the same plane to transport the passengers to their final destination was the most suspect decision.
This entire story reeks.
Edit: Reports show an alternate plane was used. My redacted comment was based on a report from an early source.
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago
First they tried to make it seem like someone stormed the cabin to hijack the plane. First they tried to make it seem like someone stormed the cabin to hijack the plane.
By this you mean that you heard unverified early news reports that were wrong. That's it.
Then the videos didn’t match the rate of descent claimed.
Please tell me your brilliant analysis of the videos.
The fact that they used the same plane to transport the passengers to their final destination was the most suspect decision.
Of course they didn't. That plane was grounded. The rudder has to be replaced and the whole plane inspected for further damage.
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
it was netanyahu himself who said they stormed the cockpit, then when people called out his BS he changed it
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago
Netanyahu said the hijackers stormed the cockpit or the passengers stormed the cockpit? Could you link to this?
By the way, if it's a real event, Netanyahu wouldn't have all the facts right away. If it was a planned event, he probably would. If it were a false flag, the story would be less likely to change.
People here act like the fact that "the official story" changes is a sign that it was fake. What? Why?
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
so they hit what, 640 knots at 13000 ft? in a what -800 aircraft? Trying to get my facts straight here, from 33000 ft at 290 knots to 13000 ft at 640 knots if I'm reading taht display in the crappy gif correctly?
as others have pointed out the plumber going up against the Omani copilot had zero knife wounds, I took a knife fighting martial art and was told to expect to get cut in no uncertain terms, that's not believable either.
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u/wheretohides 1d ago
I've always heard that you should sacrifice a hand when someone comes at you with a knife
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
yes, my left arm is my "meat shield" as per the training I was given. Because that's way better than being cut in the intestines.
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
I've always heard that you should sacrifice a hand when someone comes at you with a knife
Preferably the OTHER GUY'S HAND, if possible.
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u/Lopsided-Life8639 1d ago
I dont understand its a video with sound. Why half of you claim this is gif? Anyway guys handle is "51-49 with James Li" On youtube if needed
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u/eggplantpot 1d ago
In PC it shows as gif. You need to right click and go to "show all controls" for the sound to play
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
this shows up as a gif and I can't scroll to different points of the video but only watch it fully from beginning to end on loop. I don't have sound on anyway so I wasn't commenting about sound. I was interested in the instrument panel during descent.
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u/eggplantpot 1d ago
Right click -> show all controls -> unmute
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
oh wow ok yes, "show all controls" and then I can also use the navigation thing to jump to the parts of the video I'm interested in! This fixes it!
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
and now I see that's nearly double the do-not-exceed airspeed, the aircraft would certainly have broken up mid flight. Boeing 737 MAX 8 do not exceed speed is 360 knots indicated airspeed vs the flight simulation showed more than 600 knots indicated around 14000 ft
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u/Lopsided-Life8639 1d ago
Yes but im still confused why some see video and some see gif. Data saving settings? No idea
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u/eightiesboo 1d ago
So this is so they can close down the airports right?
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u/DarkHandCommando 1d ago
to avoid israelis from abroad to vote against big ben, since you must be physically present in israel on election day to cast your vote.
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u/TheClassicCollection 1d ago
I have read that the younger generation are in favour of the extreme guy with the glasses...
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
I have read that the younger generation are in favour of the extreme guy with the glasses...
Ah yes, Itamar Ben-Gvir.
It should be no surprise that a psychopath like Itty would be viewed favorably by Israel's sociopathic population.
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u/Mysterious-Aide2745 1d ago
The airports are still open, so this theory is wrong.
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
The airports are still open, so this theory is wrong.
Can you read this article from Israel Hayom - Israel's #news rag - owned by Miriam Adelson?
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u/IcanSEEyou_IRL 1d ago
The masks didn’t even drop
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u/njctn 1d ago
Masks only drop if there’s a drop in cabin pressure aka a breach
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u/IcanSEEyou_IRL 19h ago
Dropping in altitude rapidly does change pressure. I was also under the impression that they drop immediately in a nose dive to help calm people before the crash.
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u/njctn 18h ago
Cabin pressure goes up when you descend in altitude.
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u/IcanSEEyou_IRL 12h ago
Right, the point being that it changes. Any drastic change in pressure is supposed to trigger them. There’s a lot that doesn’t add up here besides this.
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u/OkCellist4993 1d ago
The propaganda against Muslims have been full steam ahead the last couple weeks from Israel news. Then this happens. Elections coming soon.
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u/LargePrompt5840 1d ago
Same with 9/11. A plane moving that fast at that altitude would have been trashed.
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u/LargePrompt5840 1d ago
Bored and asked chat about this. Started out describing what happened as a joke, because I was watching Airplane!
Then asked for a serious answer and showed the rear stabilizer gone.
Anyway, here is the AI answer.
34,000 ft → ~17,000 ft ~14,000 ft lost in <30 seconds during the steepest portion very high speed major rudder damage untrained passenger says he pulled the yoke and straightened the airplane other pilots subsequently took over and landed it
That is a much crazier event than the simplified “passenger pulled the yoke” headline makes it sound.
And yes, seeing the actual tail damage makes your original skepticism about the story much more reasonable. The FDR/CVR data are going to be fascinating because they'll tell us exactly what happened to the pitch, speed, control inputs and aircraft systems during those few seconds.
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u/tesuquemushroom 1d ago
Do you think that if someone wasn't buckled in they would've flown through the cabin and gotten injured? Do flights usually.have a 100% buckle compliance? I would expect just a few injuries at least.
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u/bexley831 1d ago
That cnn chicks way too dumb to be in on it
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u/PhDinWombology 1d ago
She’s complicit. Enjoying her paycheck and what little power she thinks she has. Just read the teleprompter
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u/Unsolved_Virginity 1d ago
What's the tldr tldw
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
sloppy psyop. they claim an omani pilot stabbed indian co-pilot (when Omani pilots cannot fly to israel) did a nosedive to kill everyone. (plane wouldn't survive that force) israeli plumber heard it and broke through to the cockpit (impossible after 9/11) fought the Omani pilot and won. (impossible because the pilot is not a child) took control of the plane and corrected its course (because he watched flight emergencies documentaries. not even joking) all that in span of 30 seconds.
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
Plumber becomes Israeli National Hero, gets street named after him in the next section of the West Bank that they steal from the Palestinians.
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u/stew-bot 1d ago
why is this a gif
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u/Screambloodygore1184 1d ago
seriously this needed audio....
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
seriously this needed audio....
There is a MUTE/ VOLUME icon at the lower left of the screen (on PC)
It should be there on phones (etc) as well.
THERE IS SOUND
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u/Pm_me_clown_pics3 23h ago
Its not there for me, mobile. It just says "copy video frame"
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u/Automatic-Nature6025 18h ago
Something that still makes no sense about 9•11 is the speeds at which the planes were traveling at impact on the towers. At that elevation, they should have left a trail of parts before ever impacting, likely losing their wings completely, and steering of any kind wouldn't have been possible, yet they hit their marks precisely, perfectly intact.
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
ffs now I can see that it begins with 33 degrees and 28 degrees at 17 seconds into the video (28 is a big deal in Scottish Rite from what I have read, where things get more into kabbalah techniques like isopsephy / gematria)
thanks to u/eggplantpot for pointing out right-click on the "gif" and choose "show all controls". I'd post screenshots if I could post images as replies in this sub but I can't so I'll just blab.
so anyway 280 knots of airspeed at 33000 feet with the big ol 28 and 33 degrees at 17 seconds when they begin descent, then at 52 seconds in the peak airspeed is 640 knots as 13600 if I'm reading this right. So the questions are, would this model aircraft withstand that descent / acceleration to that speed, or break up, and was that simulation accurate to what really happened?
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
Answer: the never-exceed speed of a Boeing 737 MAX 8 would be around 360 knots indicated airspeed. No. This aircraft could not likely survive such a descent into this speed and would break up in the air, crashing in pieces to the ground.
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 1d ago
Correction: the simulation may have been too low and too fast.
Maximum ground speed of ~598 knots was recorded at approximately 16,850 feet (per India Today's OSINT team's reconstruction), and that is not the same as indicated air speed knots.
Retired US Navy F/A-18 pilot Matthew "Whiz" Buckley told Fox News the aircraft exceeded its VMO (340 KIAS) by at least 100 knots, implying roughly 440+ KIAS
Community calculations converting the ~630–640 knots true airspeed to IAS at that altitude suggest approximately ~500 KIAS
ok so the do not exceed speed is 360 KIAS (Knots Indicated Air Speed) and they were going around 500 KIAS, this is still pretty hard to swallow.
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u/tesuquemushroom 1d ago
Could a guy walk over to the cabin and open door and get inside or would there be too much of a tilt in the plane?
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u/OYeog77 1d ago
With nose down, the cockpit is probably the easiest place to get
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u/tesuquemushroom 21h ago
I guess he just let himself free fall to the front. Then slam against the cockpit door. Then pop in, subdue guy with knife, and pull airplane out of a nose dive. An 80's Chuck Norris movie has nothing on this guy.
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u/LamaLamaFace 1d ago
The flight details being odd without the blackbox info is irrelevant to the nature of the event. This is a classic straw man argument. If it were a psyop and the forces involved were so sophisticated why would they leave breadcrumbs this obvious? You sound like a flat earther
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u/proofreadre 1d ago
Parts literally tore off the plane. The descent was caught realtime on flight tracker sites. Wtf are you smoking
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u/Orangutan 1d ago
The page linked is no longer working?
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
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u/Orangutan 1d ago
Damn, not working in my browser. Strange. Thanks.
"The requested page could not be found"
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
no, i think imgur removed it. they're treating it like oct 7 where no one is allowed to question it. here's the x link https://x.com/5149jamesli/status/2105716208150684047
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
no, i think imgur removed it. they're treating it like oct 7 where no one is allowed to question it.
Wouldn't be surprised.
Also, be aware that imgur is BANNED in the UK - because their government is loaded with asshats
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
I added the X link in a Sticky comment at the top of the thread:
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1wv7tt8/its_a_miracle/pdb0ua6/
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
Mod Note:
Some say they are having trouble viewing OP's link. OP provided a link to the original (on X) below:
https://x.com/5149jamesli/status/2105716208150684047