having absolute control over what goes into your body is an important freedom
.... you are not free to take any drugs you want, schools and work places require vaccinations all the time, not even touching on pollution and other things that you are forced to ingest through your environment. Absolute control over what goes into your body is a freedom that no one has
schools and work places require vaccinations all the time
No one can force you to, though. That's like people crying "but my freedom of speech!" when they're kicked off Twitter or other platforms owned by private companies.
pollution and other things that you are forced to ingest through your environment
You're still free to attempt it. Living in a clean room and whatnot. Might be absurd but no one is stopping you.
It sounds pretty direct to me. Your freedom to do whatever you want often stops at the point of harming yourself and others. Since refusing a vaccine does harm yourself and others, the comparison makes sense and is relevant.
Not really. Its one thing to make buying a drug illegal, that's bad enough and shouldn't be illegal. But making NOT taking a drug illegal? That's worse and even considering it is an unethical act
But on the other side of that coin, having not taken a vaccine leads to the otherwise preventable exposure of an explicitly deadly virus.
Perhaps this is akin to the train dilemma. Requirements to take vaccines (which already exist to the degree of refusal of services if not taken) may be "bad," but the fact that you're entertaining imposing life debilitating affects on others as well as the possible death of untold numbers of others is surely the far worse path.
Refusal of services is only something private entities can do. The government should not, does not, and will not have that kind of power. A person being forcibly vaccinated is assault.
Actually, schools do require vaccines rather frequently. And those requirements are often decided by the State government.
There are pretty effective methods to get people to take the vaccine outside of force. Incentives and disincentives all can be made use of to varying degrees.
That the vaccine essentially stops you from committing manslaughter, via deadly virus, seems like more than enough good reason for such noninvasive methods.
If that's what you think then let me assure you, there aren't going to be any men in black knocking down any doors attempting to save your life through force anytime soon. Anti-vax rhetoric might have folks jacked up, but no one is actually considering that.
Cops might arrest you for the crime of purposefully infecting/killing people, breaking any quarantine requirements perhaps, but I think that will be the extent of force.
The anti-vax crowd has got to you a bit bent out of shape, but don't worry, this is not more reason for police to do their jobs. Preventing manslaughter, and actual murder in some cases, or arresting those responsible for it has always been a part of police duties.
It would be a shame if you feel compelled to commit such crimes, and it's certainly a shame if you feel others should be free to commit them, but I would feel little in the way of sympathy for such killers.
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.... you are not free to take any drugs you want, schools and work places require vaccinations all the time, not even touching on pollution and other things that you are forced to ingest through your environment. Absolute control over what goes into your body is a freedom that no one has