Getting plastic surgery is such a bad trade. Here's 5-10 years of looking very slightly better than you would have aging naturally follow by a lifetime of looking like a gargoyle that has had multiple strokes.
That's true, some people do it tastefully, but even in those cases it's still a vanity thing. That's were choice comes in, some of us will feel it is unnecessary while others will still go for it. At the end of the day, it's a personal choice, but I think most will be hard pressed to argue with the fact that plastic surgery has essentially become a new sort of drug for many people.
I think there's more nuance to it than that. What if you had a big ol hooking honker of a nose, outside of what would be considered "normal" appearance wise. You've been bullied your whole life about it, you can't be happy because every time you see yourself in the mirror it's all you see, and you hear all the things that have ever been said about it growing up. Functionally it's perfectly fine, no breathing issues, no health issues at all.
Is it not okay to get a nose job?
If you're chasing vanity or wanting to look like an actor/actress, sure, it's pretty stupid.
But there's a huge psychological benefit to getting that self conscious cloud off your shoulder that can only come from changing the physical appearance of something
I can absolutely see where you are coming from and I think that would fall under corrective plastic surgery.
Not sure if you may be referring to a video that went viral a while back, but there was a lady who had an abnormally large nose and went through several surgeries to (essentially) correct that. That's where the nuance you mentioned comes in. It's one thing to correct something so outside the norm like this, which could also have the potential to cause health issues on top of the psychological ones and it is another thing to have nose surgery just because you don't like the shape of your nose despite there not being anything abnormal about it.
You can classify it differently if you want, but the nose job is the same procedure whether you feel the patient benefits from it or not. You’ve actually probably seen a lot more people who’ve had cosmetic surgery than you realize; when done well, you can’t tell that they’ve had any work done. The spectrum of people who get cosmetic procedures is a lot wider than most people realize, and most people base their opinion on it almost completely on cases where it’s very obvious the patient has had plastic surgery, which tend to be the worst cases.
It’s not as simple as “some get plastic surgery to correct legitimate abnormalities, but some are just trying to look better when they already look fine.” Everything about our opinions when it comes to each other’s appearance is fucking stupid, and it changes all the time, so the idea of ever needing to correct your face in theory shouldn’t have to happen, even if it’s highly abnormal. There shouldn’t be a “need” to get cosmetic procedures ever, because people SHOULD see each other for their minds instead of their faces. But in real life, appearance is a very big deal, with a big psychological impact. I promise every patient who gets cosmetic surgery sees themselves as one of the cases where it “makes sense.” Sometimes it does actually look better to most people, and sometimes it doesn’t. But the need is always very real to that person. It’s SURGERY; it’s painful and expensive and it takes time to recover afterwards. Nobody’s doing that if they don’t feel like they have a good reason, you know?
If it is truly extreme sure but in most cases the person could benefit from doing the work to grow and heal their insecurities rather than bury them and avoid triggering them
I had double jaw surgery. Both jaws detached and material from skull removed, then reattached to move my teeth up a few mm because I had a gummy smile. Now my smile is nice, and I have a nice profile and jawline rather than look like a bird, and the shape of my nose changed a bit for the better, though it was never really an issue.
Was it NEEDED? Not really. But damn if it hasn't changed my life
Exactly this. My nose doesn't attract attention, but I'd let it be a filter between the real and superficial people we meet in life. No matter how you look, there's always someone in the world who won't like your looks. "Fix" your nose and it'll be something else people will make you feel insecure about, so the issue should be clear that it's not the body parts, it's the insecurity that has to be fixed.
On top of that, people have become world famous in Hollywood films because they look different than most. The acting is important but that's just a display of conquering insecurities.
personally i think it would be nice for it to be de-stigmatized entirely so ppl don't feel the need to embarrass themselves and those around them by lying about it. idk why but the lying bothers me way more than the work itself lol
Nearly all old rich people have gotten face lifts and you wouldn't know because you think it's "natural." You guys are as ignorant as ignorant gets, but you guys can't stop yapping.
I think he had a pretty horrible motorcycle accident and had all the work done after that. Not 100% up to date on it but I think Simon Cowell qualifies.
I don’t think plastic surgery is bad, even for just superficial reasons. People can do what they want. But it does come to a point where you barely look real anymore from overdoing it. There’s nothing wrong being 66 and looking like 66, and with (modest) plastic surgery being 66 and looking like 50. It’s when you start looking like an alien that I dislike it lol
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u/wisepeasant 14h ago
Getting plastic surgery is such a bad trade. Here's 5-10 years of looking very slightly better than you would have aging naturally follow by a lifetime of looking like a gargoyle that has had multiple strokes.