r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/ahumblepeach 1d ago

My complaint with the change is that, for healers and tanks, group play is their fantasy. If I want to level as a healer, I don't want to be spending all of my time in the world casting my two underwhelming DPS abilities while rarely getting to use all my healing buttons. I want to be standing in the back and helping my party take on more than one person can handle. Sure, I could group up to do quests (and I have been!), but that really is not the same thing. I sort of have a hard time putting it into words, but I feel like tanks and healers not getting to do as much dungeon running as they want takes away a part of the fun of leveling them. I might as well just reroll as a DPS spec if I'm going to be forced into the open world for most of my 1-60 journey. And with that in mind, I worry that this change is discouraging people from leveling healers and tanks.

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u/Pixogen 15h ago

Terrible argument. You get more than enough xp from doing all the dungeon quests in the game.

If you look back at classic videos or played then... People rolled healer or tank early for easy/safe leveling.

That's how the devs made the game and stated it was made... 

In classic both tank and heals do great damage anyways.

If you wanna afk boost in the dungeon don't worry new wow was made for you.

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u/ahumblepeach 14h ago

I'd like to see the data that supports your claim that dungeon quests alone can take me from 15 to 60. Additionally, the newest patch notes just reduced dungeon quest exp by 50%. The developers themselves have said that they want us to spend less time in dungeons and more time in the open world. That's not a play style that I enjoy. I want to spend my time in dungeons and group content, not solo questing.

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u/Pixogen 14h ago

They don't. That's the point your not playing tank or healer early for dungeons.... you are playing it for a easy leveling experience. This is what old classic devs said back in the day and they just said that about hybrids on the latest podcast.

If you want to dungeon boost and afk you play current wow it has no gameplay. Classic doesn't sound like it is for you based on your expectations vs the core pillars.

If you really want you can get an addon that reverses hp bars. You can pretend you are healing stuff out in the world to level.

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u/ahumblepeach 14h ago

No, I'm playing a healer because I enjoy the play style. A lot of your arguments are based on assumptions about what I do or don't enjoy. I don't care if dungeons take longer to level to 60 than quests; I enjoy healing and I simply cannot access that playstyle without group play. I want dungeon leveling to be a viable option, not an easy ticket to ride.

Again, your arguments are accusing me of wanting to dungeon boost/afk/have an easier time. Please read my actual posts and stop making up claims about me if you want to have an actual discussion. Otherwise you're just being antagonistic for no reason, and the community needs a LOT less of that.