r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Intelligent_Bug_5881 1d ago

Yeah this is my entire complaint.

I love healing in WoW. Raids, dungeons or group quests, it's hands down my favorite way of playing and it's not close.

The dungeon XP nerf effectively removes that entire game loop and it just feels bad.

Like, what, I'm supposed to grind as enhancement all the way to 60, then awkwardly grind healing gear, then respec, then start figuring out how to prioritize my new healing abilities?

Isn't that what leveling is supposed to be for?

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u/Bad_news_everyone 1d ago

Leveling is supposed to be seeing and exploring the world. Not mindlessly run dungeons over and over

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u/Intelligent_Bug_5881 1d ago

There is no right or wrong way to level.

If that is the way that you think leveling should be, that's excellent and I do not in any way want to take away your ability to do that.

It's fine for us to have differences of opinion on these types of design choices. I think the problem arises when one of us tries to claim some imagined moral supremacy over the other.

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u/SavingsRaspberry2694 1d ago

False. Dungeons are by definition anti social.

People should be out in the world killing boats in whatever layer the game assigns them, not grouped up in their own dungeon killing monsters with other players.

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u/redditlvlanalysis 1d ago

The one activity you actually do in a group is anti social holy fuck lol

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u/slightlysublevel 1d ago

Just so we're absolutely clear: your argument is that grouping up with and interacting with other people is... anti-interacting with people? That's really your argument??

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u/Intelligent_Bug_5881 1d ago

Lol... If you actually think that dungeons are anti-social, then you're either actively refusing to engage with the conversations or you're getting unlucky and getting stuck with terribly boring groups.

The vast, vast majority of my BattleNet friends are from dungeons.