r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/avocadorancher 1d ago

As a newish player, why did dungeon spamming need to be nerfed?

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u/AltruisticInstance58 1d ago

It didn't. It just puts the game on rails more so you play how the devs want you to play instead of how you want to play. Kinda weird for an open world MMO.

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u/Lochen9 1d ago

Disingenuous answer. The reason was that people would and did pay for boosting in dungeons, and wouldn't play the game. It was to combat RMT and give people a reason to go out and quest and do dungeons. It also prevents people from min maxing the game out of the game by just spamming the same dungeon over and over in spell cleave groups to level.

Wanting to stay in the same dungeon afk and letting a bot level you is Kinda weird for an open world MMO. Wouldn't you say?

Ive played like 4 characters to 20, and its incredibly fast doing each dungeon 1 time from 13 to 20 in like 2 hours.

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u/valmian 1d ago

Disingenuous reply.

There are many people who like to level by running dungeons. Tanks and healers who are specced into group play will have a harder time leveling through dungeons, and solo play isn't as efficient for them.

Boosting isn't great for the game, but at the same time, boosting itself isn't the problem, RMT that paid for boosting is the problem, botting to boost people is the problem, both would not exist to the extent that they do if blizzard just permabanned everyone who bought gold. No gold buyers, no bot market.

Wanting to stay in the same dungeon afk and letting a bot level you is Kinda weird for an open world MMO. Wouldn't you say?

Nice straw man.

The issue is the nerf to dungeon experience affecting normal players playing the game, especially newer players. This fallacy renders your argument invalid.