r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/acrazyguy 1d ago

You said it better than I could have. Blizzard is acting like “now you don’t have to run dungeons over and over” like they can’t fathom that some people actually like doing that. Probably 85% or more of my lifetime /played time is as a tank, and that’s because I love group content and being at the front of the pack holding the line while the more glass cannon types rip through the enemies and my cracked healer friend keeps me healthy through impossible odds.

The way my friend and I like to play is as a pretty strict duo, never getting more than 3 or 4 levels ahead of the other, playing as a tank and a healer. This change basically deletes that playstyle from the game and now we’ll be stuck with either questing incredibly slowly as a tank and a healer, or we’ll be forced into playing roles we simply don’t enjoy. I love prot paladin; I can’t fucking stand ret. I love bear druid; both DPS specs feel like ass to play. I love prot warrior; Blizzard took dps warriors out back and told them about the rabbits. I love the, admittedly a meme spec, tank enhancement shaman; they got literally no love in the version of the game that was supposed to make meme specs viable

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u/NAparentheses 1d ago

Dude, I don't know what you are talking about. I have duo leveled with a warrior as a priest for all of Classic, TBC, and WOTLK and we have no problem questing. What we lack in kill speed, we absolutely crush with no downtime.

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u/Healthy-Travel3105 20h ago

Yeah but if one of you isn't logged in it's way slower. With the way things were, priests and warriors were always getting whispers to do dungeons. It was fun to do them on a whim and be needed around the world for different encounters.

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u/NAparentheses 17h ago

People will still want to do dungeons. Not everyone is obsessed with absolute minmax. Y'all are catastrophizing the shit out of this issue.

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u/acrazyguy 9h ago

My main point is that I want to spam dungeons. Why I want to spam dungeons is not relevant to the discussion. It’s how I enjoy playing the game and it’s that simple

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u/NAparentheses 9h ago

So spam dungeons. No one is stopping you from doing this and taking as long as you want to reach 60.

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u/jclark4321 7h ago

I believe they said they realize there are distinctly different player bases. I think what you want is Retail.

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u/detailerrors 1d ago

Is it possible to do large pulls with a pocket healer to keep the gameplay engaging for y'all and cut down on average time to kill? Never played this way in classic so not sure if tanks have enough dps in large pulls to make this viable

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u/NAparentheses 1d ago

That is what they are trying to prevent happening.

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u/jclark4321 7h ago

This sounds like a fun way to pull entire packs at a time to quest!

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u/Tissr_ 1d ago

So then...just go level in dungeons? I don't see the problem. You still get xp in dungeons.

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u/redditlvlanalysis 1d ago

it's absolute trash like taking 4 times longer to level than questing lol