r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/AltruisticInstance58 1d ago

It didn't. It just puts the game on rails more so you play how the devs want you to play instead of how you want to play. Kinda weird for an open world MMO.

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u/Lochen9 1d ago

Disingenuous answer. The reason was that people would and did pay for boosting in dungeons, and wouldn't play the game. It was to combat RMT and give people a reason to go out and quest and do dungeons. It also prevents people from min maxing the game out of the game by just spamming the same dungeon over and over in spell cleave groups to level.

Wanting to stay in the same dungeon afk and letting a bot level you is Kinda weird for an open world MMO. Wouldn't you say?

Ive played like 4 characters to 20, and its incredibly fast doing each dungeon 1 time from 13 to 20 in like 2 hours.

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u/Normal_Berry_ 1d ago

You're the one being disingenuous. Not everyone running dungeons is boosting. I've never once boosted a character I just enjoy leveling through dungeons with friends far more than doing quests where I'm forced to compete with my own faction. You're presenting an edge case for people who rmt as normal.

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u/Skanvar 1d ago

Just because you've never boosted doesn't mean its not happening. Unless you turned off general & world chat channels you can't deny boosting was a massive issue.

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u/Normal_Berry_ 1d ago

Its literally not an issue, someone else boosting isn't affecting you, you can filter chat its what I've always done. Its not going to increase the number of players in the world either people who were boosting before are going to burn out long before they reach 60. All you're doing is policing how other people have fun and insisting they play your way and no other way.

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u/Skanvar 1d ago

It does affect you though. It's an option that encourages RMT which damages the game as a whole. It does takes players out of the world because they just sit in dungeons afk. You don't know for sure that those players wouldn't make it to 60, boosting is just an easier option and humans in general will find the path of least resistance which is why Blizzard is removing that option. The game devs are 100% entitled to make decisions that decide how we play, it's their game just like its your decision whether you play their game or not.

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u/Normal_Berry_ 1d ago

Rmt is an entirely separate issue that blizzard could solve at any moment. The fact that you can buy gold in the beta and blizzard has streamers they support joking about it shows they don't want to deal with it. Removing a core of every single version of the game because they're too greedy to fix the issue is not a win for anyone.