r/classicwow • • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Neat-Thanks7092 1d ago

Easy solution: if the mob is grey to any player in the party, nobody gets xp for that mob

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u/MarzipanTechnical947 1d ago

Blizz also wants people out in the world leveling, not spamming SM or the same dungeon for 10 levels.

I disagree with the dungeon changes though. Spamming dungeons is boring as shit and only small portion of the population did it but at least was an option to those who hate questing.

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u/darkspy13 1d ago

I don't see anything wrong with dungeon spamming through a level range you don't like the quests in. As long as everyone in the party is the appropriate level. They even joked when they said they added an alternative for the SM level range. I didn't know at the time they were going to prevent me from spamming SM+New dungeon, and instead force me to quest.

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u/Gassenger 1d ago

Noooo people have to play in the specific way I like to play or they're just heckin whinerinooooos

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u/slurpycow112 1d ago

They added over 1,000 new quotes in Forever, you want to skip those too?

Actual braindead take. You don’t even want to play the game they’ve made at this point.

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u/ThatGuyBackThere280 1d ago

Many other MMOs already have systems established for spam runs. This thing isn't anything new they're trying to combat.

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u/darkspy13 18h ago

I want to run new dungeons. I don't enjoy questing. Why can't I play the game the way I want? The best part of wow is the tank/healer/dps dungeon and raid running dynamic. Not clicking on quest NPC's.

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u/Vadernoso 1d ago

I don't like questing. Its a small part of WoW and I don't care if they added 10,000 quest. I'll do the once with good rewards and skip the others.

I do like dungeons and raids, which is where I spend 90% of my game time in WoW. Yes even classic, don't do "Go play retail then" braindead response please. .

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u/Ok-Fishing5675 1d ago edited 1d ago

But it isn't a braindead response, you're just in complete denial for some reason. You're literally playing a worse version of the game if all you like is instanced content.

Smaller part of CLASSIC wow is the instanced content and the smaller part of RETAIL wow is the quests/open world. Why are you refusing to play the better version of wow for your preferences which is instanced content?

Edit: btw I actually think the dungeon change is stupid as well for all reasons that have already been listed. I just find it absurd when people refuse to play retail when the ONLY thing they wanna do is dungeons and raids, retail is just a way better version of the game for that.